GhostBox Posted June 17 Posted June 17 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Espresso said: The cutting off the mic I think could go either way. He won't have Trump interrupting him and making him stumble like in 2020. He can finish his thoughts. So that's good. but that's also what made people say Biden won those debates. The constant trump interruptions. They saw him as behaving badly. So yea it could go either way I guess. I will say though Trump is helping lower the bar even more for Biden for these debates. So as long as Biden doenst have any big mistakes during the debates they could only help his image. same thing happened for the SOTU Edited June 17 by GhostBox
ClashAndBurn Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Only Biden voters think Biden won any debate. Trump fans obviously thought that Trump won. The real takeaway was that both candidates were embarrassing, angry old men shouting at each other symbolizing a massive decline for the country. In no conceivable way did either candidate persuade any voter that wasn't already on their side to begin with on any of those debate showings. And it'll honestly be even more baked in with how embarrassing these next ones will be. It'll be extremely uncomfortable for anyone who isn't a partisan Democrat to watch Joe Biden drooling on stage with his dentures sliding out of place in his mouth.
GhostBox Posted June 17 Posted June 17 42 minutes ago, Espresso said: This also happened in 2016 with the Hillary stuff as well. one thing the left has given up for a long time is the media atmosphere. It is very right wing owned and controlled. They set the narrative. Even when it's lies
Vroom Vroom Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: Only Biden voters think Biden won any debate. Trump fans obviously thought that Trump won. The real takeaway was that both candidates were embarrassing, angry old men shouting at each other symbolizing a massive decline for the country. In no conceivable way did either candidate persuade any voter that wasn't already on their side to begin with on any of those debate showings. And it'll honestly be even more baked in with how embarrassing these next ones will be. It'll be extremely uncomfortable for anyone who isn't a partisan Democrat to watch Joe Biden drooling on stage with his dentures sliding out of place in his mouth. I agree with most of this. Biden will mumble the whole time while Trump goes off on problematic tirades that only hurt his campaign. No one is "winning" the debate Debates are always pointless and never really impact the election. I'm going to watch it, but I'll be uncomfortable the whole time
ClashAndBurn Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said: I agree with most of this. Biden will mumble the whole time while Trump goes off on problematic tirades that only hurt his campaign. No one is "winning" the debate Debates are always pointless and never really impact the election. I'm going to watch it, but I'll be uncomfortable the whole time Yeah, like genuinely we'd all be better off if debates were permanently cancelled. They don't influence anything, and given how Biden lost every single primary debate and none of that mattered because South Carolina Dems wanted "the Obama Guy" who was literally called out publicly for being a segregationist In 2028, Kamala will flop at the debates and it won't matter, because the same voters who wanted the Obama Guy will want the Biden Lady. That's why Biden and Jaime Harrison moved SC to the front of the line, so that all other states will be completely irrelevant.
GraceRandolph Posted June 18 Posted June 18 9 hours ago, VOSS said: How old is Jill Stein again? Younger than the two corporate candidates?
karron0624 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 hours ago, Espresso said: This literally impacts me and my husband. He is a former daca kid, and we have to do the whole 601a waiver for permission to re-enter his country and come back legally. Its a 6 year process. But this will knock it down to a 1-2 year process. When i tell you i'll be ready to submit that application immediately.
Bloodflowers. Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Why wasn't a thread on this new draft been posted on ATRL? @GraceRandolph @Communion I hope you guys are 27 or older why aren't they trying negotiating some agreements on peace even if it's difficult and takes time, at least some progress would slowly evolve
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