19SLAYty9 Posted April 2 Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Wonderland said: They're somewhat trapped as if they can't find another candidate of colour then Kamala will go full nuclear when she's losing and claim the only difference is racism ย I suspect the DNC might end up supporting a different woman. ย
Vroom Vroom Posted April 2 Posted April 2 11 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: It's going to be a kii come 2028 when Kamala loses the primaries in IA, NH, & NV back to back and pulls a "I meant to do that! Sc will decide this race! Like it did Joe!โ Only for her to lose that too ย That's why Joe made SC go first this primary. So she can be winning out the gateย ย I can't even think about 2028 right now. We need to see how 2024 plays out firstย
19SLAYty9 Posted April 2 Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: That's why Joe made SC go first this primary. So she can be winning out the gateย ย I can't even think about 2028 right now. We need to see how 2024 plays out firstย Do we realistically have any reason to believe they'll actually support her? I'm not particularly convinced Joe even wants Kamala to be the nominee in 28 ย
GhostBox Posted April 2 Posted April 2 I know some of us say how abortion is gonna matter when it comes to the Presidential election but it really could in AZ.ย ย 1
Vroom Vroom Posted April 2 Posted April 2 (edited) 35 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: Do we realistically have any reason to believe they'll actually support her? I'm not particularly convinced Joe even wants Kamala to be the nominee in 28 ย Do I think SC democrat voters will support Kamala? Definitely. Since she was vice president they will push the electability argument like Biden did in 2020.ย I do not see her doing well nation wide. She could easily be Dan Quayle 2.0. She will be extremely vulnerable *** A lot can happen between now and 2028. She could potentially be the incumbent by that time and attempt to shut down all primariesย Edited April 2 by Vroom Vroom
Redstreak Posted April 2 Posted April 2 At least the good news about this primary cycle is that it demystified loser De Santis to a lot of republicansย 1
If U Seek Amy Posted April 2 Posted April 2 22 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I know some of us say how abortion is gonna matter when it comes to the Presidential election but it really could in AZ.ย ย They keep doing this and it will help a lot. How much is uncertain. But this forum seems to like only attributing negatives to Democrats in what will cause them to underperform, while assigning no negative attributes to Trump on how he may perform worse than 2020 oddly. Too many operate on Trump = same performance as 2020. Like yes Biden may lose, but people seem to oddly focus solely on this and it is weird 2
GhostBox Posted April 2 Posted April 2 (edited) He probably just talking about the car industry againโฆ. Oh ๐ ย Edited April 2 by GhostBox
ClashAndBurn Posted April 2 Posted April 2 A vote for Joe Biden would also be a vote for keeping this lying ******* in the White House as well. ย "There is no evidence Israel targeted aid workers. Let's just see when they investigate themselves, hold an internal review of their own conduct, and then give themselves the all-clear.โ ย Every single day that Kirby, KJP, and Matt Miller come out and lie to the American people and the press in order to protect Israel makes me hate the entire Democratic Party even more. 1 1 1
thesegayz Posted April 2 Posted April 2 12 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: A vote for Joe Biden would also be a vote for keeping this lying ******* in the White House as well. ย "There is no evidence Israel targeted aid workers. Let's just see when they investigate themselves, hold an internal review of their own conduct, and then give themselves the all-clear.โ ย Every single day that Kirby, KJP, and Matt Miller come out and lie to the American people and the press in order to protect Israel makes me hate the entire Democratic Party even more. Bruh, hate the Democratic Party? Go get help and touch grass. You literally need to focus on something else. Or give yourself an aneurysm over people you'll never meet and impact. Because these paragraphs you write are serving mass shooter vibes 3
thesegayz Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Being a single issue voter over abortion is as stupid as being a single issue voter over the "genocide" in Gaza. Only thing is, one side actually wins.ย 1 4
GhostBox Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) The man is such a a liar. Every time he's confrontedย ย ย Edited April 3 by GhostBox 1
GhostBox Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GhostBox said: The man is such a a liar. Every time he's confronted.ย ย ย Also he announced his running mate and she's literally disappeared from public view. He's only using her for her money to get on the ballot in key swing states. That's all Edited April 3 by GhostBox 1
Wonderland Posted April 3 Posted April 3 All these swing states having abortion amendments has me worried. It's feeling very all or nothing this cycle and a loss in these states will be devastatingย
GhostBox Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) Biden getting more votes than Trump and less protest votes (12%) than Trump is getting (21%) in Wisconsin primaries ย atm is surprising.ย Edited April 3 by GhostBox
Wonderland Posted April 3 Posted April 3 35 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Biden getting more votes than Trump and less protest votes (12%) than Trump is getting (21%) in Wisconsin primaries ย atm is surprising.ย It's also rather impressive considering the Democratic primary has ~20k less voters participating at the moment than the Republican primary. ย What is somewhat of a concern is that in the largest counties he isn't overperforming his statewide average. He still has a lot of work to do if he wants to bring the "Uninstructed" voters back into the fold. ย But he does have options at the same time. Haley overperformed in most of those areas despite being dropped out for a month or so now. Surely if you're voting for her at this point you aren't planning to vote for Trump in November. 2 1
ClashAndBurn Posted April 3 Posted April 3 This reads like they've already accepted they're going to lose. That can't possibly be the case if they're going all-in on flipping Florida, thoughโฆ. Right? @Espresso
Redstreak Posted April 3 Posted April 3 14 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: This reads like they've already accepted they're going to lose. That can't possibly be the case if they're going all-in on flipping Florida, thoughโฆ. Right? @Espresso I read this as "we thought winning was a given in 2016 so we didn't feel the need to try, here we're gonna fight like we think we're losing.โ ย if they think losing is assured I doubt they'd be investing money into building 30 campaign offices in Michigan ย https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/03/29/michigan-dems-opening-30-campaign-offices-tout-ground-game/73141755007/ 1
Redstreak Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) One thing I don't think is discussed and maybe should be are changes in party vote totals compared to past primary performances as gauge for enthusiasm. If you look at 2020 when trump ran completely unopposed as a direct incumbent and with no real reason to bring out voters, there were more total votes cast in that primary versus now where there are actually options to entice more people to vote Edited April 3 by Redstreak 1
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