FameFatale Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Millennials truly are the best generation because we grew up as things were evolving. You got Gen Z that can't differentiate a scholarly based article vs propaganda and sign their name and then Gen X posting "Meta can't use my photos or my data-copy and paste" on Facebook, and silent and boomers can't tell when a picture is AI 5 3
MAKSIM Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Kamala has 74 days to push Biden down a flight of stairs if she wants to become the first woman President of the United States. 1 8
Communion Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 21 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: You have me mistaken as someone that loves Kamala. The posturing doesn't work on me cause I'm annoying and probably mentally ill enough to have gone through your post history and seen that your comments about the left weren't "fascination" over protests but vocal defense for and deference to a party committing genocide and mocking of those begging for it to stop funding said genocide. On 8/1/2024 at 11:29 AM, MAKSIM said: There's no point arguing with people who view Kamala Harris and Donald Trump as equivalent. It's worm for brains. On 8/16/2024 at 9:02 PM, MAKSIM said: This is an unserious post. There is a reason there wasn't a mass protest at the RNC/Trump events. It's cause Trump would actively call for them to get their ass beat, deported if they're here on student visas, etc. Kamala Harris is not the same as Donald Trump and you're intellectually dishonest for comparing how she/the party has reacted to protestors in comparison to Trump. On 8/8/2024 at 10:46 AM, MAKSIM said: I commend the bravery of the Palestinian protestors to heckle Kamala Harris. It takes real courage to try to tank the Dem ticket knowing that they could be facing harsher consequences, expulsion, deportation and felony charges under a Donald Trump presidency as well as an open check book to Israel and a US president that will openly call for the flattening of Gaza. Their heart is in the right place, even if Donald Trump wins and makes the genocide 10000x worse. At least they can say they did their part. I'm sure the people of Gaza respect their bravery and don't care if it's Trump vs Harris in the White House. To them it is totallyyyyyyy going to be the same. Again, the put-on effect and faked nonchalance doesn't work when someone can see what it's actually trying to do and is thus uncomfortable with what you're doing. If this rhetoric is what you're going to attempt to do: 21 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: but will the South Carolina Democratic Party base be prioritizing that in 2028? We will see. You can continue to write essays on here, but the democratic base will pick someone that you hate, as they did in 2016, as they did in 2020, as they would have done in 2024 even with an open primary. people will expect you to then admit there is no point to the Democratic Party and that they are never going to win elections in the way they did pre-Trump ever again. Weaponized doomerism isn't a tool only one side can use. Dem will never change their ways or listen to the left? Okay, sure. Cool. Whatever. Just get ready then for Pres. Trump for life and for him to re-arrange Europe! Not my problem! Edited November 8 by Communion 2
Wonderland Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Not gonna lie I was banging my head at the wall watching The View "analyse" the election result with terrible after terrible take... and I bet that's exactly how DNC discussions are going at the moment. 3
Wonderland Posted November 8 Posted November 8 4 minutes ago, Bethenny Frankel said: I saw Kathy in-person for the first time not too long ago and she has no charisma whatsoever and is like 5 feet tall. There is a good chance she loses the governorship if she doesn't get primaried. That's my exact point doll. Someone with a personality needs to have the guts to primary this woman and boot her OUT. Gillibrand and Schumer should be on notice too. Mayor of NYC will probably go republican after all of that loser's scandals. The only hope is if Old Rudy tries to come back and is the republican nominee.
Pikachoo Posted November 8 Posted November 8 just talked to my pro-trump brother in law. (we're canadian so we dont vote dont worry) he said Trump will do better this time because last time "he was new and didn't know who to pick and he picked bad guys"
Bloodflowers. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 The optics of liberals on the internet are those of uncool, crazy and Karen-like people that go viral and make tons of views on YouTube and Tiktok. Conservative made themselves look like underdogs and fighting against the power. Liberals need to work on their language and presentation with common folks, stop attacking and talking like you're smarter than anybody else. Offer actual policies that would get people inspired and excited instead of offeeing virtue signaling and fearmongering of Republicans winning! Offer something different, something hopeful, something exciting. Offer popular left-wing economic plans that are proven to be working in other plans, such as free healthcare, maternity and sickness leave, increase minimum wage, cut costs of medicine, BAN POISIONOUS CHEMICALS IN FOOD LIKE THEY DO IN EUROPE THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR CONSUMTION IN THE US, a bi-partisan solution that even crazy MAGAs would support a Democratic candidate that wants to make your food healthy. Do all that while working on your image and presentation so that your average Joe, Mary, Kathryn and Bob would think you aren't crazy. As for liberals that can't run as presidents or be in politics, your social media influencer game sucks ass. Conservatives rule podcast world, they rule commentary world, they rule shorts and Tiktok world. I remember early internet in 2000s and even early 2010s when liberals were cool, smart, edgy people fighting over power and for the people. They would make videos making fun of conservatives and their cringe, unhinged behaviour. Now their image how turned other way around while conservatives managed to claim that spot of being cool people fighting over crazy libs, and that's bad considering Gen Alpha is consuming internet during time when liberals image is considered wacky and weird and that's bad once they get old enough to vote. Who's the biggest popular left-wing content creator? Hasan? Destiny? The Young Turks? All of them get washed in terms of views by like 12th most popular conservative channel, let alone top 3 biggest ones. Liberals are losing the image and influencer game so badly, they can't appeal or inspire any new fans. There's a lot of work to do by 2028. 2 1
DONTYELLATME Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 minute ago, Wonderland said: That's my exact point doll. Someone with a personality needs to have the guts to primary this woman and boot her OUT. Gillibrand and Schumer should be on notice too. Mayor of NYC will probably go republican after all of that loser's scandals. The only hope is if Old Rudy tries to come back and is the republican nominee. Be careful, at this rate Rudy might win
wastedpotential Posted November 8 Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, Bethenny Frankel said: AOC would LOSE even if she primaried Kathy, NY is turning redder each election so no progressive is winning. A progressive can't even be Mayor in NYC, how would they be governor? Granted, I'm not a local but I've always understood the wonky NY Mayoral elections to be a result of moderately corrupt local officials and patronage networks. Maybe I get the wrong read but I feel like AOC could put together a campaign (assuming she extricates herself from the establishment rectum) that targets the rust beltier parts of upstate and picks up the wwc suburbs around Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, and Albany plus most of the champagne leftists and minorities in the city, but again, not a local
Wonderland Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Actually, if Reuben Gallego plays his cards right he might offer something by 2028. And we won't even have to worry about his senate seat as Kari Lake Petty will ensure the open seat stays Democratic. How tall is he though 2
MAKSIM Posted November 8 Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, Communion said: The posturing doesn't work on me cause I'm annoying and probably mentally ill enough to have gone through your post history and seen that your comments about the left weren't "fascination" over protests but vocal defense for and deference to a party committing genocide and mocking of those begging for it to stop funding said genocide. Again, the put-on effect and faked nonchalance doesn't work when someone can see what it's actually trying to do and is thus uncomfortable with what you're doing. If this rhetoric is what you're going to attempt to do: people will expect you to then admit there is no point to the Democratic Party and that they are never going to win elections in the way they did pre-Trump ever again. Weaponized doomerism isn't a tool only one side can use. Sure, okay, Dems will never change. Get ready then for Pres. Trump for life and for him to re-arrange Europe! Voters gave Trump a mandate. They voted to build the wall, deport immigrants, extend tax cuts, get rid of federal agencies, stop Ukraine aid and support Israel. I've accepted that parts of Ukraine will be further annexed by Russia and I've accepted that parts of Palestine will be further annexed by Israel. The American people decided. Nothing I can do.
DONTYELLATME Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wonderland said: Actually, if Reuben Gallego plays his cards right he might offer something by 2028. And we won't even have to worry about his senate seat as Kari Lake Petty will ensure the open seat stays Democratic. How tall is he though Hispanic men are short unfortunately Edited November 8 by DONTYELLATME
Bethenny Frankel Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Just now, Wonderland said: That's my exact point doll. Someone with a personality needs to have the guts to primary this woman and boot her OUT. Gillibrand and Schumer should be on notice too. Mayor of NYC will probably go republican after all of that loser's scandals. The only hope is if Old Rudy tries to come back and is the republican nominee. Kathy will more than likely have a plethora of challengers in the primary so we'll see if anyone can take her down. Kirsten is fine, she just won reelection but Chuck is getting older so I imagine his seat might be up sooner rather than later. No Republican has declared he's running for Mayor yet, the last one was Bloomberg so not that long ago. The mayoral race is a hot ass mess at the moment though, Eric is trying to run again and the unpopular comptroller is probably the frontrunner at the moment. AG Letitia James and former Gov. Andrew Cuomo are rumored to announce their candidacy soon so...get ready for the primary girls!
Wonderland Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 minute ago, Lightbringer007 said: Honestly I'd almost happily have her back leading the Democrats just for the kiis over the next 2 years 1
harwee Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 minutes ago, Pikachoo said: just talked to my pro-trump brother in law. (we're canadian so we dont vote dont worry) he said Trump will do better this time because last time "he was new and didn't know who to pick and he picked bad guys" Your brother in law next year
Wonderland Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 minute ago, DONTYELLATME said: Hispanic men are short unfortunately Actually, if republicans tried to come for his height too much it might backfire with this new Latino voter base
Thuggin Posted November 8 Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, Wonderland said: Honestly I think it's more important that when a woman runs, she is free to NOT defend the record of an unpopular, establishment administration. Hillary in many ways had to do that in 2016 after two terms of Obama. Kamala has just had to do that for Biden. I'm not as much of a doomer on the idea of a woman running if they're coming from the opposition with no baggage. Yeah two things can be true at once. Being a black woman definitely hurt Kamala because misogyny and anti-blackness will always be factors, but it may have not even made a difference had a white man run instead following an unpopular incumbent dropping out three months prior to the election and record inflation. I could be wrong about that, like I don't want to understate the implicit biases at play (as well as outright bigotry), but it's important to recognize that Kamala was fighting an uphill battle for other reasons in a year where incumbent governments (especially left of center governments) are suffering devastating losses. Whereas I think Hillary being a woman actually probably did cost her the election in 2016, even if there were valid issues with her campaign too.
wastedpotential Posted November 8 Posted November 8 I know basically nothing about Jon Ossoff's skeletons or policy history (I'm not reading Senate voting records but I'm sure some of y'all are ) but he's attractive and at least tangentially southern (I don't think an Atlanta Jew with an MS from LSE will be picking up the rural Mississippi vote but maybe he can fake an accent) and has the potential to turn out the suburban women, South Carolinian elders, and the progressive populist coalition with the right messaging and policy proposals, though I'm happy to defer to locals re his potential 2026 re-election floppage or a potential gubernatorial run. Still, the last time we had a currently hot person in the White House was like... six months in 2008 and then like 1992/3 before that, so I'm ready
Bethenny Frankel Posted November 8 Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Granted, I'm not a local but I've always understood the wonky NY Mayoral elections to be a result of moderately corrupt local officials and patronage networks. Maybe I get the wrong read but I feel like AOC could put together a campaign (assuming she extricates herself from the establishment rectum) that targets the rust beltier parts of upstate and picks up the wwc suburbs around Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, and Albany plus most of the champagne leftists and minorities in the city, but again, not a local Half of AOC's Congressional District despises her because she never visits it and I'm talking about the Bronx part. 99% of her campaign events are in Queens so they always feel left out. I like AOC but I feel like upstate NY would despise her honestly, she would have to do a LOT of work campaigning up there. 1
canvey916 Posted November 8 Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, FameFatale said: I love that this is just a few posts down from @Relampago. assuring us that racism is old news and the "race talk should die down"
Wonderland Posted November 8 Posted November 8 I'm not sold on Ossoff tbh. I feel like we should have known by now if he was President material. If we HAD to pick a senator from Georgia I think I'd rather have Warnock
Communion Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: The American people decided. Nothing I can do. I mean.. tea, sis! Me when the same European ATRLers who told me Medicare For All wasn't important enough to dictate how progressives vote then want my limp wrists to storm the capitol to stop Trump from leaving NATO but I just go back to brunch: As a tankie, there's also like a 27.53% chance Trump's insane understanding of foreign policy delivers something I like. Send Trump back to the DPRK! Restart re-normalization talks now!! 6
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