Vermillion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I suppose the only thing to hope for is what actually affects more of his base to cause a change in Trumpism. Starting with white working class men losing their health insurance? Spitball take I know, but that's seen as less ephemeral by them as democracy or even abortion, sadly.
Lil Mistee Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Archetype said: Kamala this, Biden that. Americans are stupid, that's what it comes down to. They vote with their feelings because it's easier than accepting their own personal failures. It's always easier to blame something bigger than yourself. I still think it's cuz our electorate is reactionary to economic issues they feel are affecting them. So like when we have inflation under Biden even if it begins to come down (such as gas recently) people will vote against the incumbent president. Happened with trump during Covid too
Calvin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The big take away for the Dems is you HAVE to run an open and fair primary. 2016 Hillary was handed it because it was "her turn". She lost. 2024 obviously was given to Harris because Biden was too full of himself to step down before a full primary could be ran. She lost. I'm sure in a primary in 2024 Harris doesn't win.
psychodiva336 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 16 minutes ago, skwonderfactory said: I'm legitimately crying overly anxious trying to come up with future plans with my partner. Everything feels so hopeless and f**ked. I hate everything. Why am I even alive?! I'm taking a mental health day off of work today. God, help us all. Please give it some time. It's okay to feel sad, scared and disappointed but this will pass! You can and will get through this. A mental health day off work is a great idea ♡ 3
whiteferrari Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I cannot believe what happened today. She got demolished and I can't stand it
midnightdawn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 8 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: in the last 5 elections: dems ran a man - 3/3 dems ran a woman - 0/2 they party leaders are going to be super reluctant to support another woman for quite a long time... I think the problem was the Dems got caught up trying to have the first woman president instead of the best candidate. And with Kamala there was a lot of pressure from people like Jim Clyburn saying it would be a big snub to certain groups if they passed over Kamala. Well look how that turned out at the ballot box. 1
playboi Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Tcharm said: it was this nnn while Kamala's own team was calling her a brat 2 3
Rep2000 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Calvin said: republican president, republican house, republican senate, republican supreme court things about to get real ******* scary Literally the stars just align perfect for Project 2025, holy ****. But apparently we are still gonna hear "liberals this, blue MAGA that". Yeah, how about the ******* real MAGAs for **** sake? All this infighting is so insufferable.
Jay07 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Yeah I think America is finished too and I'm not being dramatic. Supreme Court will be ultraconservative for the rest of my lifetime but more than that, Americans proved that they think like Trump does. Even if economy was their single issue, that was Trump's doing and Biden actually improved the situation. But honestly I think it's social. His message resonates with men of all ethnicities and they would never vote for a woman/a person of color/a queer person. They hate us, plain and simple. 6 3
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Vermillion said: I suppose the only thing to hope for if what actually affects more of his base to cause a change in Trumpism. Starting with white working class men losing their health insurance? Spitball take I know, but that's seen as less ephemeral by them as democracy or even abortion, sadly. What will stem that hemorrhaging is the fact that black people will also be losing health insurance, so I'd say it evens out at worst to be honest.
BNF91 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Archetype said: Kamala this, Biden that. Americans are stupid, that's what it comes down to. They vote with their feelings because it's easier than accepting their own personal failures. It's always easier to blame something bigger than yourself. That's pretty much it.
Lil Mistee Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Oh wow Voters Making Under $50,000: 2016 (36%) - Clinton +12 2020 (35%) - Biden +11 2024 (28%) - Trump +1 it's over
Calvin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Arthoe said: That's exactly what they DIDN'T do at all. They did not lean on social issues and the "woke" identity politics discourse whatsoever in this campaign. The entire campaign focused on "Israel good, Trump BAD, we're gonna make concessions to Republicans, Republicans have a seat at our table" Recipe for disaster
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 6 ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Vermillion said: @Bloo Your argument on staying engaged is admirable when it's the convicted felon that won. Having worked on the Hill and in campaigns I'll always stay engaged, it's in my DNA. But what I won't do is ever try to get anyone else involved, or more importantly, to care, ever again. I'm done. As far as I'm concerned America is finished. At least in my lifetime it is when you add up the ramifications. I think that's a fair emotion to feel. I guess I'm also of the position that if this electoral outcome decides the entire future of the country, then we were always f***ed. There are scarier monsters in our country than Donald Trump with political ambitions. 1
popstyle Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Im so scared for minorities, gays and everyone that wasnt born in this country with a silver spoon platter. There going to set us back big time! All for cheap groceries and gas!
Tcharm Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: no it wasn't. those people supported him before this. stop trying to pin it on trivial things. they actually believe his crap. Youre correct in that Trump already had a base that believed his BS But this definitely gave him a bump. I knew the race was tight but something so unprecedented like an assassination gave him edge that I believe contributed to his dominance in the popular vote.
Rep2000 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) Gay marriage is now officially back on the chopping block. Have fun while it lasts, girlies. Edited November 6 by Rep2000
Calvin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I still can't believe how close it was in fckin New York 1
Bandito Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Calvin said: The big take away for the Dems is you HAVE to run an open and fair primary. 2016 Hillary was handed it because it was "her turn". She lost. 2024 obviously was given to Harris because Biden was too full of himself to step down before a full primary could be ran. She lost. I'm sure in a primary in 2024 Harris doesn't win. Don't forget to add in 2020 where they pulled all those strings behind the scenes in order to get all of the remaining Dem primary candidates to coalesce behind Biden in order to defeat Bernie given how he was polling so well and Biden was pretty much last place. 3 1 1
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