Sannie Posted September 2 Posted September 2 Him going in for a handshake and then grabbing her fist HAS ME SCREAMING. DFKJHDDKDH 7
Harrier Posted September 2 Posted September 2 32 minutes ago, Armani? said: I know it's a meme coming from him specifically, but it is fully mainstream in rw circles right now to call her a commie, and most of them mean it 35% of the country are fully deranged lunatics it truly is tragic 5
Lil Mistee Posted September 2 Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Sannie said: Him going in for a handshake and then grabbing her fist HAS ME SCREAMING. DFKJHDDKDH asl;dkas;dlkas I died
Beyonnaise Posted September 3 Posted September 3 I keep going back and forth. Some days it feels like the Kamala momentum is still significantly increasing while Trump is shedding support. Others it feels like the stars will align for him again with just enough moderates coming home to him, and hard-to-poll white and POC working class men in swing states making the difference. I can see reams of data showing MAGA losing the last three cycles and polls showing him trailing over the past month and yet the prospect of him ultimately snatching it like in 2016 remains a very plausible scenario A true toss-up. 5
Vroom Vroom Posted September 3 Posted September 3 3 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I keep going back and forth. Some days it feels like the Kamala momentum is still significantly increasing while Trump is shedding support. Others it feels like the stars will align for him again with just enough moderates coming home to him, and hard-to-poll white and POC working class men in swing states making the difference. I can see reams of data showing MAGA losing the last three cycles and polls showing him trailing over the past month and yet the prospect of him ultimately snatching it like in 2016 remains a very plausible scenario A true toss-up. I go back and forth. But I am optimistic because Kamala doesn't have the baggage Hillary had and unlike 2016, dems have had momentum in the past few election years; 2018, 2020, 2022 and 2023. Dems were losing badly in the 2014, 2015 elections. After 2008, Obama did not help in down ballot races In addition, and I'm super biased, Trump has zero positive qualities this time around. In 2016 he had no record and people wanted a Washington outsider, I remember being dumb and thinking he was a secret Democrat (I was really young and didn't follow politics at all back then). In 2020 he had the incumbent advantage. Now in 2024 I really can't come up with anything compelling about him. The only thing he has going for him is extreme partisanship, but I'm not sure that will be enough 3
midnightdawn Posted September 3 Posted September 3 (edited) Quote The polls are extraordinarily tight in all of them, and that isn't expected to change much over the next nine weeks. In modern presidential elections, where the race stands on Labor Day is usually pretty close to where it ends up once the votes are counted. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/02/trump-harris-polls-2024-00176981 Damn. At least in 2016 and 2020 the democrat had a small lead and we could feel some (albeit misplaced) confidence. Edited September 3 by midnightdawn
tiejc Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Almost like the GOP have no interest in anything but PA and GA. Their strategy is flipping both assuming the rest stay the same in comparison to 2020.
Communion Posted September 3 Posted September 3 49 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I keep going back and forth. Some days it feels like the Kamala momentum is still significantly increasing while Trump is shedding support. Others it feels like the stars will align for him again with just enough moderates coming home to him, and hard-to-poll white and POC working class men in swing states making the difference. I can see reams of data showing MAGA losing the last three cycles and polls showing him trailing over the past month and yet the prospect of him ultimately snatching it like in 2016 remains a very plausible scenario A true toss-up. I think it should just be seen as a tight race as Trump has realized what two states he needs to win in order to win and is basically going from there. 2
Beyonnaise Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Small PA anecdote: I was driving around the King of Prussia mall area (Main Line Philly suburbs) this weekend and saw a few Trump digital billboards on the highway that said liberal-coded things like "promoting equality" and "bringing us together" My dad said they come off like a joke but they were very real. The billboards only had Trump's name and not Vance, which feels noteworthy.
Blade Posted September 3 Posted September 3 @Relampago. when this guy starts freaking out over PA, I'll start freaking out 3
Blade Posted September 3 Posted September 3 51 minutes ago, midnightdawn said: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/02/trump-harris-polls-2024-00176981 Damn. At least in 2016 and 2020 the democrat had a small lead and we could feel some (albeit misplaced) confidence. Biden had a huge lead actually and people were still skeptical of it due to trauma from 2016.
shelven Posted September 3 Posted September 3 45 minutes ago, Communion said: I think it should just be seen as a tight race as Trump has realized what two states he needs to win in order to win and is basically going from there. Honestly it would feel like a poetically chaotic conclusion to this election cycle if Trump ended up taking NC for granted like Hillary did with the Blue Wall and as a result we end up with this ridiculous map that basically nobody saw coming 5
Wonderland Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Communion said: I think it should just be seen as a tight race as Trump has realized what two states he needs to win in order to win and is basically going from there. Tbh it does still feel like a risky strategy on the Republican side because winning PA, GA and holding NC only scrapes Trump to 270 if he wins Maine CD2 (which I believe has had some polling where Kamala has led recently?). They have to be banking on another state flipping - I guess Arizona based on their buys. 1
Sannie Posted September 3 Posted September 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Wonderland said: Tbh it does still feel like a risky strategy on the Republican side because winning PA, GA and holding NC only scrapes Trump to 270 if he wins Maine CD2 (which I believe has had some polling where Kamala has led recently?). They have to be banking on another state flipping - I guess Arizona based on their buys. It's kind of insane they're only banking on PA from the looks of it. It is the most important state, but if she wins NV and AZ then she doesn't need PA. They're kind of acting like HRC with the confidence. edit: idk how to do math. She would still need to keep GA or flip NC so I'm gonna need Kamala to triple her ad spending in Pa. hmmmm, this is clever coming from the Trump people. The only way for Kamala to combat this is to come out in favor of an arms embargo. Edited September 3 by Sannie 1
Sannie Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 hour ago, shelven said: Honestly it would feel like a poetically chaotic conclusion to this election cycle if Trump ended up taking NC for granted like Hillary did with the Blue Wall and as a result we end up with this ridiculous map that basically nobody saw coming Omg imagine PA being called earlier in the night (lol) for trump and we all think it's over and then she wins NC and then we wake up the next morning to her winning AZ and NV. :jonny: The hope MAGA would have being dashed would feel so good. but tbh I want election night over asap. If Kamala wins PA then it'll be easier to sleep if the other results haven't come in. 2
midnightdawn Posted September 3 Posted September 3 7 minutes ago, Sannie said: Omg imagine PA being called earlier in the night (lol) for trump and we all think it's over and then she wins NC and then we wake up the next morning to her winning AZ and NV. :jonny: The hope MAGA would have being dashed would feel so good. but tbh I want election night over asap. If Kamala wins PA then it'll be easier to sleep if the other results haven't come in. PA has laws that mean counting of mail-in ballots can't happen until election day so PA is going to possibly take days to be declared. 1
Bears01 Posted September 3 Posted September 3 It's so odd seeing PA be THE battleground state everyone is terrified about when I was certain it'd be Wisonsin. The trends in Wisconsin are basically relient on dane county having max turnout for the Dems to have any kind of chance they're that bad. PA, MI, WI always vote in tandem. I can't see that changing
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