on the line Posted August 25 Posted August 25 24 minutes ago, Blade said: I'm just gonna throw it out there. If you don't live in a border city (i'll even accept county) you can't have an opinion on the "border crisis". It does not exist in the way right wingers have framed it for years. It's fear mongering. Come down here and see for yourself. And if you don't even live in the US shut the **** up. This is how I feel about the homeless situation. If you aren't in one of the big west coast cities, you have NO IDEA. 1
Blade Posted August 25 Posted August 25 1 minute ago, on the line said: This is how I feel about the homeless situation. If you aren't in one of the big west coast cities, you have NO IDEA. Great to know you'd listen to my opinion on homelessness in the US
on the line Posted August 25 Posted August 25 29 minutes ago, Relampago. said: What immigration effect has been as big as COVID? Living in a border state, I can guarantee there interstate migration within the US to here has been far more difficult to deal with than anything happening on the southern border by far. 500 caravans later and everything is the same. I personally don't have much to say about immigration. I lived for many years with someone living in the US under asylum and found everything they had to go through fascinating and frustrating. That said, many people do seem to have it on their mind whether warranted or not. As I just commented, it's a lot like the homeless situation where if you're not really at the forefront then you really can't fully understand it. Yet y'all had no problem degrading me for speaking up on the homeless and drug issues in my cities. So it's just another day on another topic. 1
Rotunda Posted August 25 Posted August 25 26 minutes ago, Relampago. said: I find it very interesting how hard they're seemingly shooting for Georgia. I wonder if internally polling is showing that they can win it and want to have that buffer just in case one of the Rust Belt states falter. What I HOPE it doesn't mean is that they're REALLY trying to shore up the Sun Belt because the Rust Belt is looking scary. I think they know Kamala hasn't reached her ceiling for Black support yet, and if they can improve on that, Georgia becomes a lot more feasible. 2
Relampago. Posted August 25 Posted August 25 21 minutes ago, tiejc said: IIRC, they're also throwing in more samples of Trump supporters to account for any missing weight as well. I'm hoping that means they're oversampling like crazy and the end results will actually favor Harris.
on the line Posted August 25 Posted August 25 5 minutes ago, Blade said: Great to know you'd listen to my opinion on homelessness in the US (I already replied but it said it was hidden and now is gone. Not sure what's going on..) I don't need anyone's opinion on this shitshow. I've lived in it in multiple west coast cities. What an absolute disaster leftist policies have been on this, and thank God it's finally changing. 1
Relampago. Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) I dunno. I lived in LA as well for 5 years for college + 1 year after from 2017-2022, I went to USC and lived right next to Skid Row in South Central and there were many, many, MANY unhoused people around. 99% of the time they never even addressed me or bothered me, and that 1% was always just getting shouted at, but that's already something I experience just being a gay man or if I wear my Dodgers hat in Phoenix lol. It didn't really scare me or bother me the few times it would happen. I agree that the homelessness crisis is a huge problem, but I hate that people frame it as an infestation of vermin problem, and not a human rights issue. For me, it's a crisis because the government is failing to provide for its most vulnerable populations rather than something that affects me in my day to day life. EDIT: oop meant to quote you @on the line Edited August 25 by Relampago. 4
shelven Posted August 25 Posted August 25 43 minutes ago, Blade said: Thanks for posting this, I wanted to but I accidentally refreshed twitter and lost it forever skfkfjejd this exact same thing just happened to me, I spent like 3 minutes trying to find it again and then figured maybe someone else will have already posted it in here Anyways, that's a really helpful revelation and it's a way more convincing theory than the "shy Trump voter" theory that I never bought. Trump supporters are loud, obnoxious and think they know more than everyone else. It never made sense that they'd feel too shy or embarrassed to tell a private pollster on a phone call that they plan to vote for Trump 1 3
Blade Posted August 25 Posted August 25 Thank god the ******* DNC is over I know the conventions are necessary for nominating and they provide a bounce for the party's nominee but it's always such a blah moment to me. I want substance through on the ground campaigning and it's looking like we're getting that before the Labor day break. And then once Labor Day is over its full steam ahead with voting starting in swing states, debates, and the most aggressive campaigning. 4
Sannie Posted August 25 Posted August 25 This guy knows PA voting better than anyone else I've come across. He has high hopes for Harris in PA. 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: I find it very interesting how hard they're seemingly shooting for Georgia. I wonder if internally polling is showing that they can win it and want to have that buffer just in case one of the Rust Belt states falter. What I HOPE it doesn't mean is that they're REALLY trying to shore up the Sun Belt because the Rust Belt is looking scary. It's all because of the Atlanta + metro area that won Biden the state in 2020. If she can match or exceed Biden's margins there, it'll be impossible for Trump to catch up. I think she can do it and I think they think so too. 3
Communion Posted August 25 Posted August 25 1 hour ago, on the line said: I personally don't have much to say about immigration. I lived for many years with someone living in the US under asylum and found everything they had to go through fascinating and frustrating. That said, many people do seem to have it on their mind whether warranted or not. As I just commented, it's a lot like the homeless situation where if you're not really at the forefront then you really can't fully understand it. Yet y'all had no problem degrading me for speaking up on the homeless and drug issues in my cities. So it's just another day on another topic. People discredited your opinion because you suggested the true expert opinion on the lived realities of homeless people are the affluent urbanites who don't like having to see homeless people from their six figure condos and not the homeless themselves, who you claimed are liars who want to be homeless in order to continue to do drugs. It's telling that in the analogy of border communities you view people as not living with undocumented migrants but amongst them in the way you frame the homeless not as members of your community but an inflicting force harming your community. 3
Sannie Posted August 25 Posted August 25 1 hour ago, tiejc said: I'm confused as to why they wouldn't count them in 2020 lol. But good news for Harris this time around. The way she becomes more popular the more people get to know her. GET HER ON TV NOW. TIME FOR INTERVIEWS. And her growing favorables seem to coincide with Trump's decreasing. I would posit the more people get to know Kamala, the less they like Trump. 2
Relampago. Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, FameFatale said: It kills me because my MAGA family yells about illegal immigrants and the border but we aren't close to the border and there's maybe 10 immigrants in the entire town and those are the ones who run their favorite restaurant they run to every Sunday after church it's all fear mongering. No cause why is my family so concerned when we have people in our very family going through their citizenship process ddd "These illegals immigrants are coming in and creating crime!" "Who Tata? You mean primo Gilberto??" I don't get the obsession with immigrants in my family wanting to pull up the ladder behind them, but it's certainly the propaganda, at least partially. Edited August 25 by Relampago. 3 1
Sannie Posted August 25 Posted August 25 It's 100% propaganda, imo. There's no other answer. Considering the vast majority of Americans have not been negatively impacted by immigration, and relatively speaking immigrants do not commit enough crime for stats to change, it's literally just made up **** that people have decided to believe. And Dems have done a horrid job at combatting the narrative. "Immigrants are taking our jobs!" "Which jobs have you applied for that were instead given to an immigrant?" "..." "Immigrants are causing crime!" "Where is this crime occurring?" "..." All it takes is minimal pushback and the narrative falls apart. 8
teresaguidice Posted August 25 Posted August 25 failure to meaningfully address issues of housing affordability, wage stagnancy, health care accessibility, addiction resources, etc compounded by inflation is what has allowed the immigration scape goating to thrive. then, you add the fact in 2015-2019 you had virtually all factions of democrats sounding the alarm about this scape goating and railing about trump's cruelty, children in cages, etc. which stopped entirely ahead of the 2020 election. whether you believe it was politically necessary or not, i think its pretty inarguable that democrats collectively conceding to the right is why the polling on it is where it is right now. 3 3
nooniebao Posted August 25 Posted August 25 Kamala's gonna be such a mess if she wins… so incredibly subservient to big business + Big Tech/Silicon Valley basically her entire career. And that's not even getting into how bad her foreign policy will be. @Communion is right that all of Bernie's supposed pushing of the Overton window to the left the last nine years was seemingly for naught. 5 5
WildAmerican Posted August 25 Posted August 25 this is really interesting. With Peltola and TWO Senate seats, they should really think about this going forward, more for Congress. Probably not this year, but would be worth watching, especially if it continues going leftward... 4
Relampago. Posted August 25 Posted August 25 20 minutes ago, nooniebao said: This is my philosophy, but honestly, I can't blame anyone drawing a hard line in the sand at genocide. If that's a line that can't be crossed for them, I find that very understandable, and I would support their choice. AOC isn't the hardline progressive she was pre-2020, but I do find myself in line with a lot of her logic still. 6
Relampago. Posted August 25 Posted August 25 12 minutes ago, Sannie said: nnn Not so many of my friends sending me this without context because I'm dating a white guy but I never knew the context was Kamala and Tim 7
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