ClashAndBurn Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, on the line said: The latter plus people see something written in print and take it as the gods honest truth. He is very much a moderate who supports common sense policy, many which are values for progressives too. My MN friends are very confused by this progressive label. That may be the case, but the point is that Walz is a unifier while Shapiro could only ever be the most divisive option possible 4
bunnyeyes Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Blade said: The video tanking his chances . Oh what a day. Someone here jokingly predicted he'd try to come out as though he was the pick the day before that video was released and that would alienate Kamala and it literally happened. 1 2
Communion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, on the line said: He is very much a moderate who supports common sense policy Having to see centrists like you pivot back to recognizing universal progressive policies as common sense by how popular they are once implemented after centrist Dems began pivoting right and validating Republican narratives' shows me this was the right pick. Walz's agenda as governor was to the left of Biden's 2020 agenda so let's see Kamala adipt some of these common sense policies. It's time for a federal mandate on paid and sick leave, free college for the working and middle class, etc. Edited August 6 by Communion 3
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. 2 14
on the line Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said: That may be the case, but the point is that Walz is a unifier while Shapiro could only ever be the most divisive option possible But I think the point is also labels, and truth, matter and do inevitably sway votes. Dems would be best to avoid the progressive push.
Kitty Kat Posted August 6 Posted August 6 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr1148 Get Nancy for us sis! 6
Popular Post Bears01 Posted August 6 Popular Post Posted August 6 Just now, NausAllien said: I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. @Bloo this user blatantly trolls this thread daily. I speak for everyone when I ask if he can get booted 10 5
Vermillion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 32 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Oop CHERELLE DID HIM IN I ****ING KNEW IT 1
on the line Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. They also say a lot of racist and homophobic things, as well as being actual rapists. We don't really care.
Butters Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Just now, NausAllien said: I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. Eh with Shapiro they would be posting pictures of the drug addled homeless on Kensington Ave in Philly. Definitely would be more of a vulnerability than the George Floyd protests 1
i spit on haters Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Tim is going to sway so many independents. He'll even catalyze apolitical voters to come out and vote and young voters will be more energized than before. Oh, Trump is DONE! --- We got this. 4 1
Blade Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, NausAllien said: I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. Another dumb post from you. Kamala was already blamed for BLM riots by the far right. Her rhetoric in 2020 regarding the protests was torn apart at the time and was already being brought up again by right wing freaks. Are you really that dense that you think a BLM RIOT!!!!1!!! attack against Walz will work on any moderate voter who didn't already think that about Kamala? 4 1
Cain Posted August 6 Posted August 6 28 minutes ago, NausAllien said: Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... said proudly? 4
Communion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NausAllien said: turn off independent Sister I love the enthusiasm but the most annoying political trope you seem to really like is thinking indepedent voters are a monolith. Independent is not a synonym for conservative. There are many independents to the left of centrist Dems, for example. The Democratic Party does not nor expects to try and win over independent voters who ideologically aligned with overt conservative ideals. The only people who would tell you that are conservative independents and conservative Democrats trying to get their way. The indepedent voters Dems win is the 34 year old Hispanic man who wants better paid leave. Not the 56 year old white libertarian who wants to abolish taxes and age of consent laws. Edited August 6 by Communion 5
i spit on haters Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Communion said: Having to see centrists like you pivot back to recognizing universal progressive policies as common sense by how popular they are once implemented ater pivoting right and validating Republican narratives' shows me this was the right pick. Walz's agenda as governor was to the left of Biden's 2020 agenda so let's see Kamala update some of these common sense policies. It's time for federal mandated on paid and sick leave, free college for the working and middle class, etc. Maybe it's just me and you and @ClashAndBurn might disagree but I feel like this will be the closest we'll get to having a Bernie eques politician running the country. I know Waltz isn't as progressive as Bernie but it's close enough.
Mike91 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, NausAllien said: I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. Okay. 1
Vermillion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Cain said: said proudly? They're not even in the States 2
Cain Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Just now, Vermillion said: They're not even in the States That user is serving mental illness
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted August 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted August 6 11 minutes ago, Bears01 said: @Bloo this user blatantly trolls this thread daily. I speak for everyone when I ask if he can get booted ? I wish y'all would REPORT these posts for once 1
ClashAndBurn Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, i spit on haters said: Maybe it's just me and you and @ClashAndBurn might disagree but I feel like this will be the closest we'll get to having a Bernie eques politician running the country. I know Waltz isn't as progressive as Bernie but it's close enough. Walz greatest asset was that he was able to take credit for policies passed by a relatively progressive legislature. Which, funnily enough, the same could be said for Whitmer. That's why he's able to shine while Gavin Newsom and Kathy Hochul are making names for themselves by rejecting and vetoing every bill that comes to their desks that's even remotely popular with the base. 1
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