Thuggin Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Trump's numbers barely changing at all after the assassination attempt proves he has a ceiling of about 46 percent. If Dems are smart, they'll go with a VP pick who will make the difference for people who are disillusioned with both parties and wondering if it's worth leaving their couch to vote. Making the cynical choice with Shapiro purely to lock in Pennsylvania would be the exact wrong move and come at the expense of alienating a generation of young people in other critical swing states, who have been reevaluating their relationship with the Democratic party for a while now but already seem more enthusiastic about 2024 with Biden off the ticket. Unpopular opinion, but Gretchen is a better choice if we're just looking at swing state governors. I think people massively overstate the harm of having two women on the ticket when the Presidential nominee is already a woman, and I think it could even play well in a year where abortion is the biggest issue. 3
FameFatale Posted July 23 Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Bamboo said: Their Twitter is so They were a kiii when it was Biden HQ too. I think the guy who's over it has came out before but I can't remember when.
Vroom Vroom Posted July 23 Posted July 23 7 minutes ago, Thuggin said: Trump's numbers barely changing at all after the assassination attempt proves he has a ceiling of about 46 percent. If Dems are smart, they'll go with a VP pick who will make the difference for people who are disillusioned with both parties and wondering if it's worth leaving their couch to vote. Making the cynical choice with Shapiro purely to lock in Pennsylvania would be the exact wrong move and come at the expense of alienating a generation of young people in other critical swing states, who have been reevaluating their relationship with the Democratic party for a while now but already seem more enthusiastic about 2024 with Biden off the ticket. Unpopular opinion, but Gretchen is a better choice if we're just looking at swing state governors. I think people massively overstate the harm of having two women on the ticket when the Presidential nominee is already a woman, and I think it could even play well in a year where abortion is the biggest issue. I don't think Gretchen wants it. She would rather run her own campaign in 2028 or 2032 1
thedeathbymusic Posted July 23 Posted July 23 I love her parts of her speech where she volleys with what she did as a prosecutor to what Trump has been convicted of, but I wish she ended it with "Trump even thinks I did a good job" or something like that and mention how he supported her before re:
Thuggin Posted July 23 Posted July 23 6 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: I don't think Gretchen wants it. She would rather run her own campaign in 2028 or 2032 Either way, the last thing we need is a Tim Kaine No one voting in 2016, not even subconsciously, was thinking "You know what, I wasn't going to vote for Hillary, but now she has boing white MAN Tim Kaine to help her do the job, so that seals my support for her". If they thought she was a shrill harpy, I don't think the VP pick changed that.
Komet Posted July 23 Posted July 23 She is EATING up this speech, like Did she get a software update or smth, she's controlling the audience like it's nothing 10
Jackson Posted July 23 Posted July 23 The energy at that rally is ELECTRIFYING. This is not the Kamala that ran 5 years ago 3
Miles. Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Another great speech, cook cook cook cook COOK! She's doing so well it almost makes me think this whole thing was planned, that they purposely let things get so dire with Biden while Kamala was waiting in the wings, practicing her speeches, and cooking up coconut memes ready to swoop in at the exact right moment Edited July 23 by Miles. 2 1
Komet Posted July 23 Posted July 23 47 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: Making a brief ATRL return because I thought this might be of interest. Shapiro has some allegations of shady ties. One in particular is this case of a girl whose death was ruled a "suicide" I saw this post shared in the past, the case has gotten local attention in Philly: More about this case here. Tf is this? And he has serious ambitions about running in the future?
suneclipse121 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Oh she ate that. That speech was so good!!! Definitely gave an Obama tea. Not going back! That could be something Lmaooo Edited July 23 by suneclipse121 3
Blade Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Redstreak said: gonna eviscerate him He's better off not doing it unless he's really scrambling to shake things up
Sannie Posted July 23 Posted July 23 ANDYNATORS, WE RIDE AT DAWN!! just saw a video of Tim Walz destroying republicans and JD Vance. Need these people campaigning as well. They're very good at it. 1
Musicmajor Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, suneclipse121 said: Oh she ate that. That's speech was so good!!! Definitely gave an Obama tea. Not going back! That could be something Lmaooo Me and my friend just watched the live WI speech and he said "I haven't felt this inspired or excited for someone in such a long time (Obama). She is giving off major Obama teas. Such a great speaker and I'm glad she seems much more comfortable on stage and speaking. 6
Kylizzle Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Kamala giving Bey more promo than she's given herself in a decade. Unburdened queen. 1
suneclipse121 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 8 minutes ago, Miles. said: Another great speech, cook cook cook cook COOK! She's doing so well it almost makes me think this whole thing was planned, that they purposely let things get so dire with Biden while Kamala was waiting in the wings, practicing her speeches, and cooking up coconut memes ready to swoop in at the exact right moment Honestly I'm starting to think this is true. Because it all just seems perfectly seamless Like she literally took over and is hitting all the right marks. She also has improved immensely in her public speaking from 2020 which is a given now that's she's VP. Idk but I'm here for it. Biden essentially took all the bullets for her in a sense. Reps are not going to be able to build a solid case against her in 3 months. 2 1
GraceRandolph Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, suneclipse121 said: Honestly I'm starting to think this is true. Because it all just seems perfectly seamless Like she literally took over and is hitting all the right marks. She also has improved immensely in her public speaking from 2020 which is a given now that's she's VP. Idk but I'm here for it. Biden essentially took all the bullets for her in a sense. Reps are not going to be able to build a solid case against her in 3 months. Biden is 81. Kamala knew she might have to take over at some point.
GraceRandolph Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Kinda digging the prosecutor/criminal angle. Americans love cop shows and Law & Order ****. Maybe it can appeal to midwestern moms? 5 1
CaptainMusic Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) If @Communion and @Sannie both agree it should be Beshear, then you know that's the right choice Don't **** this up Kamala Edited July 23 by CaptainMusic 9
suneclipse121 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, GraceRandolph said: Biden is 81. Kamala knew she might have to take over at some point. True. I guess what I find impressive is how the team transitioned seamlessly and positioned her perfectly to succeed. It could've been sloppy especially for something that hasn't happened in decades but they are so far doing an amazing job.
Both Sides Now Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Weird one but I met a middle aged white man in Thailand today (yes,). I asked him what he thought about the election and he said he wasn't going to vote for Biden or Trump but he might vote for Kamala. He was from Wisconsin. 4
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