illia Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pikachu said: wonder if the aespa girls fume when they see what songs groups like IVE are given when they have to sing about Kwangya and hope the GP responds well I think Karina and Giselle are totally fine with their concept Winter and NingNing on the other hand... I'm not saying they're fuming or hating aespa's stuff but they appear to be more leaning on the casual pop style like NJ and IVE
Adama Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said: I just realized Aespa is missing from the multi generational GG domination on top 10 right now That’s what they deserve for picking Girls instead of Illusion
LiamVillain Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) MYs need to stream girls instead of arguing it's even below illusion on MelOn lol Edited August 24, 2022 by LiamVillain
illia Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, flashfox said: I am sick of the term 4th gen leaders like who made it. There was no such thing like that in 2nd and 3rd gen I think. not many people really cared about generations back then
Gaia Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, flashfox said: I am sick of the term 4th gen leaders like who made it. There was no such thing like that in 2nd and 3rd gen I think. It’s so dumb and I only see the constant arguments in this thread. There are literally 4-5 4th groups slaying right now and everyone is just obsessed proving their fave is #1. And it only seems like they care because it’s better than XXX. The fact that this thread even tried to making some success criteria for SNSD in their 15th year just to set them up to get dragged. The obsession is unreal in this thread with success.
Sorecer Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Hazy said: me rooting for them doesn't mean I cannot admit that certain groups are doing better, I'm just not delusional if we'd go about my personal taste then it'd be BP = NJ (for now, depends on what material they will have further on) > aespa > itzy (sans latest ep)>= ive and le sserafim doesn't change the fact I'm enjoying all of them, some outputs more, some less, I care about the overall vibe - that's why aespa won't reach the top since they lack charisma but I like their concept, voices and most of their music, even girls the song is acceptable to me... but at the same time I prefere itzy as a performes, I need more from IVE to fully get into them and for some reason I cannot fully go into LSRFM although their music is good you to say that NL was already bigger than anything from IVE first thing, not on the international charts and second thing they are still up and running with both ELEVEN and LD, so don't set them up for now, because no one knows how it will end they don't have the deal, because Starship decided so, the interest is there as they got offers already to me IVE's career trajectory is just much more impressive than aespa's and that's 8 months in... they can possibly demolish aespa with their first mini, so you're definitely too much ahead This giving the same vibe of people like you are not an stan if you don't like the song! literally you don't have to like everything of your faves to stan them I love the pinks but PV is not really my cup of tea and for that I won't support them less specially with an album coming Let's be real if IVE had the charting performance of GIRLS they would be dragged everywhere and would be totally counted as another mid group without arguing aespa still haven't lost the war just the battle but I hope SM play their cards right because Illusion was clearly the song to go everywhere Edited August 24, 2022 by Sorecer
Adama Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Zack said: Are you seriously trying to claim aespa's audience of 40,000 people in Japan is somehow fraudulent? I’m talking about the supposed « 1 million applications »
Whatevaaaaa Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, flashfox said: I am sick of the term 4th gen leaders like who made it. There was no such thing like that in 2nd and 3rd gen I think. Because it was so obvious who was in the lead ?
Axel. Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said: I just realized Aespa is missing from the multi generational GG domination on top 10 right now they're not even in the top 20 right now. Edited August 24, 2022 by Axel.
MingYouToo Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) I can only imagine the true thoughts many of these girls have for the songs their group releases. I remember when Taeyeon first became a soloist one of the big dramatic comments she made was that she hated the **** out of Gee and Oh! and all their girly girl concepts. Tiffany on the other hand is such a pop ***** her music is literally the closest K-pop will ever get to Korean Madonna. The irony is that the 2 of them are bestfriends. Edit: Can we talk about SNSD's longevity? Like these girls debuted when Hyein's from NewJennies' mom had her man nut inside of her and theyre still competing with her group I mean- Watch SNSDs 20th comeback anniversary and see barely any of these girls chart on Melon while SNSD remains a Top 10 force Also its kinda funny how Nayeon is sharing the Top 10 with them while TWICE can barely chart, reverse Taeyeon teas. Edited August 24, 2022 by MingYouToo
Hazy Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said: I just realized Aespa is missing from the multi generational GG domination on top 10 right now and they are apparently ahead of everyone notable, Girls was released one week before abomination that is Sneakers and LD sits in top10 since the release they don't need to be "first" do do amazing or stay afloat, yet hardcore fans try to persuade this thread that they are the leading group and then BP is underperforming in the ggs storm at #2 on melon
Cotton Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Kinda love the competition in 4th gen. There’s really no one that dominated like Twice and BP yet nor have touched their peaks. It’s kinda like 2nd gen as others have said. Way more groups and non big 3 ones (which is very refreshing tbh) seeing similar success at the same time. Kinda feels like Kpop is repeaking. Y’all can thank RV, Twice and BP’s continuous hits and longevity for that.
Zack Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, Adama said: I’m talking about the supposed « 1 million applications » News which also made it to independent main Japan news channels and media... Unless we're suggesting SM bought these media outlets too and faked the audience. It's giving conspiracy theory at this point
State of Grace. Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) This whole argument is just insufferable. ADspa haters act like they're over for good and their stans still get triggered when people say other groups are doing better than them now and X or Y might pass them overall. There is NO #1 leader that is ahead of everyone else. Edited August 24, 2022 by State of Grace.
rzal Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zack said: News which also made it to independent main Japan news channels and media... Unless we're suggesting SM bought these media outlets too and faked the audience. It's giving conspiracy theory at this point I'm expecting over 1m tickets sold next tour then.
Pikachu Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: This whole argument is just insufferable. ADspa haters act like they're over for good and their stans still get triggered when people say other groups are doing better than them now and X or Y might pass them overall. There is NO #1 leader that is ahead of everyone else. the thread has been arguing about the same thing for so long
Adama Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Zack said: News which also made it to independent main Japan news channels and media... Unless we're suggesting SM bought these media outlets too and faked the audience. It's giving conspiracy theory at this point So where are these 920k applicants when it’s time to STREAM the song ??
WhalieX Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 Tbh LOVE DIVE is not that far from NEXT LEVEL success-wise. 19th week on Gaon: LD: #4 - 22M (478M total) NL: #3 - 19M (491M total) Add to that Spotify and AM numbers and LD being actual hit in Japan and yeah some might argue it's bigger. 4th gen girlies are much more fun to compare than 3rd gen. The competition is tight.
Billionaire Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Hendery said: The amount of notable users here who were aespa stans a few months ago/ year ago but are now dragging them for IVE I don’t even stan them like that but the success stanning here is very real and frankly quite disturbing Note how not even a week ago people were saying IVE were replaced and over due to NewJennies success and now that AL is showing signs of doing well they're all hopping onto the IVE bandwagon and calling them BP successors (when they were calling NJ their successors last week) The way this thread completely DITCHED StayC too when BM flopped when last year people were calling them the next Twice. Just sad Edited August 24, 2022 by Billionaire
BTS Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Adama said: 1 million applications and yet AESPA can’t enter in AM Japan top 10??? Something doesn’t add up Ikr. When I’m booking concert tickets I usually have multiple tabs/devices open. 920k applications ≠ 920k people
Sheegs Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 The way Rocket Punch is coming back with just a week of teasing period
rzal Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, WhalieX said: Tbh LOVE DIVE is not that far from NEXT LEVEL success-wise. 19th week on Gaon: LD: #4 - 22M (478M total) NL: #3 - 19M (491M total) Add to that Spotify and AM numbers and LD being actual hit in Japan and yeah some might argue it's bigger. 4th gen girlies are much more fun to compare than 3rd gen. The competition is tight. interesting. i was told Next Level is basically the biggest song of all time.
OrionHwang Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Adama said: So where are these 920k applicants when it’s time to STREAM the song ?? They're elderly people who only buy album and listen with their cd walkman I guess
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