Starshine Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) I love how we went from "bey is a little overexposed with all of these side projects" to apparently the biggest Beyhydration we've ever had. She did keep us fed for years with all the stuff she's been doing (even though I didn't like much of it ). We got a whole collab album, Emmy nom documentary, live album, Lion King, The Gift, all of the featured collabs with numerous artists, a Disney visual film, and an Oscar nom song. Meanwhile we haven't heard Rihanna sing a word in 6 years. I think most of us just miss Bey slaying the charts like she always did, and also tired of the terrible executions + back to back flopping. This base questioning her commercial power is understandable and anxiety driven given her recent projects has underperformed and it's true, time is ticking and ageism is real. Most of us just want B7 to be here to shut the girls up and a solo project for once. I forgot how beautiful Lemonade was. Edited June 7, 2022 by Starshine
Cbreezy Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, giRLbye. said: As much as yall want this to be true in hopes that everything gets done right for B7 pop success...there's really no evidence to support this line of thinking. It's actually shows the opposite. If she had big success expectations for either album & was shell shocked...both of those eras would've carried out differently than they did. No follow-up singles for EIL & it taking them a month for them to even incorporate songs from it into their current tour. No TG performances or videos uploaded to create awareness?? It's not giving shocked & downtrodden for success. Very far cry from the Beyonce that pushed songs everywhere until they couldn't be pushed anymore. Those projects served their purpose...to promote the joint tour & the love letter passion project to give her musical legacy more substance than ass shaking pop songs. While I agree that they are side projects for sure, I respectfully disagree with the rest. But I do think it spotlights something I've observed and long admired about Bey's handling of losses. She has mastered the illusion (and it for sure is an illusion) of being "totally unbothered" when her numbers don't stack up the way they're supposed to. The whole no push, no videos, no promotion thing is a very savvy safety net to rest on if - like EIL and TG - the projects don't debut in the realm of what was expected. A commercial artist never wants to be "seen" to try and fail. It's like kiss of death when trying to turn the tide. When it works, great. But when it doesn't, it sticks the "flop"..."not cool" label on them and makes it incredibly hard to wash off. Just ask Katy Perry and Alicia Keys. Playing "unbothered" strips away people's ability to stick it to the artist if the artist themselves appear to "not care". EIL launched big with the surprise announcement and was positioned to be a major magnet for Tidal. Surprise drop of Apeshit, her first music vid since Lemonade. Side project, yes. But there was a definite effort to maximize its potential. Its out of the gate underperformance sealed its fate in terms of what Bey as a savvy mover would do or better yet wouldn't do. She was not about to start dropping video after video, as it would look try-hard and desperate. BUT that rush-release to other streamers after the predictions came out (while ironically boasting about not putting Lemonade on Spotify) makes clear what the internal sentiment was -- a panicked "wtf". With TG, The Lion King buzz was huge and there was talk of her having shot a few videos (beyond Spirit) around that time. IMO, the underperformance ignited the idea of BIK in the manner we know it now. Not to say Bey is number-obsessed or isn't as creatively/culture-driven as she clearly is, but I also don't buy that she throws out side projects "just because". She just handled those commercial knocks better than the average. Edited June 8, 2022 by Cbreezy
Starshine Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Devin said: The last 2 pages. we're bored the dramatics is more fun than album rankings at least
Beyoncé Knowles Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Mama Tina was literally calling Disney racist on insta because "they didn't promoted TG and BIK" when it was her own daughter who refused to promote. They were shook by those flop side projects. I agree with Cbreezy, she just handled those knocks better
Beyoncé Knowles Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 @Devin Let me cater to you 'Cause baby this is your day Do anything for my man Baby you blow me away I got your slippers Your dinner Your dessert and so much more Anything you want Let me cater to you
Devin Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, Beyoncé Knowles said: @Devin Let me cater to you 'Cause baby this is your day Do anything for my man Baby you blow me away I got your slippers Your dinner Your dessert and so much more Anything you want Let me cater to you A bop 4 minutes ago, Starshine said: we're bored the dramatics is more fun than album rankings at least I just read thru it was entertaining
Iyanla, Fix Me Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 21 hours ago, giRLbye. said: "find your way back" is one of the greatest songs ever made i really hope this makes the next tour...i can almost hear the live arrangement...the vocals, the band, nice easy breezy choreography, new adlibs & runs. my people!!! FYWB is easily in my top 3 favorite songs and videos by her in the last 10 years. It definitely would have made it to the 2020 tour she had planned pre-covid. I hope it doesn't get left behind when B7 has to be incorporated into the setlist.
suneclipse121 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Beyoncé Knowles said: @Devin Let me cater to you 'Cause baby this is your day Do anything for my man Baby you blow me away I got your slippers Your dinner Your dessert and so much more Anything you want Let me cater to you Wait we’re dedicating lyrics to other users now?! Let me dedicate some Rocket lyrics to @swissman. ?
ShouldersSideways Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Beyoncé Knowles said: Mama Tina was literally calling Disney racist on insta because "they didn't promoted TG and BIK" when it was her own daughter who refused to promote. They were shook by those flop side projects. I agree with Cbreezy, she just handled those knocks better The cringe I got remembering this. Ma'am your daughter wouldn't even show up for the group cast photo
Space&Time Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Not a fan of Saucy Santana, but that "Booty" snippet got me HYPE! That Chi-lites sample is GODLY. CIL is still my most favorite song ever, and that sample has a lot to do with it.
Space&Time Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Space&Time said: Not a fan of Saucy Santana, but that "Booty" snippet got me HYPE! That Chi-lites sample is GODLY. CIL is still my most favorite song ever, and that sample has a lot to do with it. Also, I think it can be argued that this IS a sample of CIL because the way it's used in his song, but maybe that's just me.
ShouldersSideways Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, Space&Time said: Also, I think it can be argued that this IS a sample of CIL because the way it's used in his song, but maybe that's just me. It is apparently.
HausofArtpopII Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, Space&Time said: Not a fan of Saucy Santana, but that "Booty" snippet got me HYPE! That Chi-lites sample is GODLY. CIL is still my most favorite song ever, and that sample has a lot to do with it. Booty seemed good but having Latto feature on it out of all the female rappers??? and the way he revealed it with a bunch of "????", he could have gotten Bey's wife on it, miss Onika as she's already offered him a feature imma still stream it doe
osiris777 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) To be honest if you notice ever since 4 her career is more based off of how she can use her celebrity and status to capture the public at new heights while keeping her new signature Mozart style of albums. I’m not worried about Beyoncé keeping up she is not in that race for relevance I don’t know if some of you are new but Beyoncé is bigger then the music industry trust and believe she is going to eclipse everyone her next drop bookmark me. Edited June 8, 2022 by osiris777
HausofArtpopII Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 found a channel that has remastered bey's videos, they look amazing! https://www.youtube.com/c/RicDiOlive/search?query=beyonce
Airhead Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Hov talked about his new album of, course, but he also addressed Monday's Twitter spree, daughter Blue Ivy and wifey Beyoncé (and her wealth of unreleased material). "Right now, Bey has 100,000 amazing songs, just playing 'em," Jay revealed of the singer's much-anticipated album. To which an astonished Martinez asked, "And what do you guys do, just listen to it in the speaker [at home] for yourself?" Jay laughed saying, "Yeah, [we] dance to it in our socks!"
PrudenceHCharmed Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, HausofArtpopII said: found a channel that has remastered bey's videos, they look amazing! https://www.youtube.com/c/RicDiOlive/search?query=beyonce I watched Sweet Dreams and Diva last week and it was so painful to watch
HausofArtpopII Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Airhead said: Hov talked about his new album of, course, but he also addressed Monday's Twitter spree, daughter Blue Ivy and wifey Beyoncé (and her wealth of unreleased material). "Right now, Bey has 100,000 amazing songs, just playing 'em," Jay revealed of the singer's much-anticipated album. To which an astonished Martinez asked, "And what do you guys do, just listen to it in the speaker [at home] for yourself?" Jay laughed saying, "Yeah, [we] dance to it in our socks!" @Beyoncé Knowles someone leak the unreleased songs from Lemonade and ST Edited June 8, 2022 by HausofArtpopII
king_queen Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Airhead said: A PERFORMANCE! Like…there will never be another
Beyoncé Knowles Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, HausofArtpopII said: @Beyoncé Knowles someone leak the unreleased songs from Lemonade and ST Hi honey, it's B! Suffer. Love you deep
Cbreezy Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Airhead said: A PERFORMANCE! Life was given! I'm extremely confident in her output with the videos and visual albums these days, but this vid is such a reminder of how much of Bey's appeal is in her stock as a live performer. Really intrigued to see how she'll evolve her stage show, as we haven't seen anything really since Homecoming. The reality is that none of us (her included) can cheat time, so I'm mentally preparing for her to scale back. She's lowkey been doing that over the last few tours anyway. Just in a very stylized way that has that fact go over a lot of people's heads. Because, though her energy levels, choreo etc are still head and shoulders above her peers, she's not the insane bouncing ball of energy she was in this performance, or BET Deja Vu, or The Beyonce Experience anymore. Which is totally ok. I feel she'll do her take on Madonna. So, the scale of her shows will become grander and grander to compensate for her scaling back herself. Can see her prioritizing vocals, while punching in and out with the dancing (rather than going all out anymore). So much of my anticipation for B7 is about more than the music. I'm really intrigued to see what the new template of her latter day career will be. Musically, performance-wise, etc. For all the legends I love, I'm realizing Bey is the first artist I'm actually growing up with and living out the various stages of her career (newbie, it girl, budding legend, actual legend). So this latter stage of her career (which could be a whole new re-peak if she chooses + if the industry allows) is uncharted territory for me as a fan with any artist.
MrPiggyMoka Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Airhead said: Hov talked about his new album of, course, but he also addressed Monday's Twitter spree, daughter Blue Ivy and wifey Beyoncé (and her wealth of unreleased material). "Right now, Bey has 100,000 amazing songs, just playing 'em," Jay revealed of the singer's much-anticipated album. To which an astonished Martinez asked, "And what do you guys do, just listen to it in the speaker [at home] for yourself?" Jay laughed saying, "Yeah, [we] dance to it in our socks!" ***** what the ****???
BnPac Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Cbreezy said: The whole no push, no videos, no promotion thing is a very savvy safety net to rest on if - like EIL and TG - the projects don't debut in the realm of what was expected. A commercial artist never wants to be "seen" to try and fail. It's like kiss of death when trying to turn the tide. When it works, great. But when it doesn't, it sticks the "flop"..."not cool" label on them and makes it incredibly hard to wash off. Just ask Katy Perry and Alicia Keys. Playing "unbothered" strips away people's ability to stick it to the artist if the artist themselves appear to "not care". I do agree about her need to appear "not to care" lately but as for the rest, I don't see it. Because 4, ST and Lem show a different picture. She promoted RTW as if it were #1 in every charts in the world. And while ST and Lem were not available or private, she performed : MTV medleys, Grammy, BET etc. TG barely had an insta's post. Maybe they scrambled for EIL because let's be honest Jay is charts-obsessed, has always been and it is a good thing. But I didn't see the scrambling for TG. Just correctly labeling the album on Spotify for a correlation wxith BIK would have gone a long way. 9 hours ago, Starshine said: I forgot how beautiful Lemonade was. I really wish the album goes viral as a whole. I know it's heavy but songs like Formation, Hold Up, Freedom and DHY can be "fun". It's her best work and needs to be revived. Also to your point, it's true that following the charts is fun for a fan base and keeps fandom less bored even without music. Edited June 8, 2022 by BnPac
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