Lose My Breath Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I used to be team, she's gonna win, but I know she wont, and I've moved on lol Let me say this though, IF she does rock music (funk/blues - maybe rock over the years per the way she was dressing 50s-90s), that genre will probably be way more accepting than country was, it has changed over the years to be way more inclusive and open-minded, and the black history is very strong there. If the material is good, which I'm sure it will be, and cohesive, I could see her pushing through with that for AOTY. Not only because of the music, but I expect the visuals will be staggered after or something, and there will be much more content. CC started very strong, it just got nothing after release, which killed it. There was also MULTIPLE weird campaigns against it all over social media, some like I have never seen before for her releases, and the pdiddy stuff. It was a weird year for her, and I think that's falling off. The fans are also tired, and are over even speculating things. 3
ScorpiosGroove Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: The fans are also tired, and are over even speculating things. considering the increasingly more stupid theories about a simple announcement they're clearly not
Devin Posted January 5 Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: The fans are also tired, and are over even speculating things. not this font-hive shade oop.
Lose My Breath Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: considering the increasingly more stupid theories about a simple announcement they're clearly not Well, only the delusional are left, that's why 1
Cbreezy Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 19 hours ago, sillycilla said: I think a lot of people are over thinking CC. This was not a hard album to promote at all. THE, was the most current generic country sound there was and it went number one because it was actually pushed. Bodyguard, levii jeans, and tyrant were also obviously made for radio. Tyrant and II hands to heaven are urban radio fodder. In a proper rollout she could have done cute videos for riverdance and SHB. There are so many elements that could have worked with the right marketing and appealed to everyone. Very true. I am one of those people who has made peace with her shenanigans because I know that she will always topline tick-box the necessary (#1 debut, big first week sales, one guaranteed push for a single etc). But, when you put it the way you did, it's so glaring to see how CC was short-changed. Which there is no (true) spinnable angle to defend her for, because if anything this was "the" album/era that was always going to need more of a push up the hill because it was so left of her usual (on paper). She will inevitably drop the visuals, the girls will gag, so on and so forth. But the fact that she is letting music so obviously geared towards radio make no impact...on radio (!) will always be a case of cutting one's nose to spite their face. It doesn't make sense. I'd be more than happy to play the whole "visuals are coming" schtick if she/team properly worked the songs making waves on radio, streaming etc. Primarily because none of that even requires...her. I have a theory, though... Spoiler Bey may not promote in the conventional sense any more, but she absolutely has a per project budget at Columbia. Don't shoot me, but I absolutely believe this is what is used ($$$$$) to "ensure" her leads always do what they need to do...come hell or highwater. As in, what used to be her budget for SNL, GMA, and all the conventional promo effectively is now digital marketing, playlisitng, and "giving" radio whatever is needed ($$$$) to ensure her leads perform. I believe Bey is favored, loved, and has a genuine fanbase. But I iono how much I buy that her leads by complete coincidence consistently do what they essntially "need" to sans the type of push they (realistically) would need. And make no mistake, I am HERE FOR IT. Ultimately, a strong performing lead sets up the entire era (tour included) to excel. So, I am 200% behind it. There is literally a fiscal justification. I guess what I'm saying in relation to @sillycilla's overall point, is that I wish the push continued for the other songs. Because, even in her physical absence, they absolutely have the budget to "at least" give the girls a one-two punch with hit singles. I get the sense with CC, she/her team tapped out of the "need" of producing another Cuff It because they tick-boxed the "top 10 hits" x3 first week with Texas, II Most Wanted, and Jolene. Because her angle these days seems to consistly be "1 pushed single and let the audience pick (or not pick) the next smash", it's clear as day there were no concrete plans for any other single post Texas. Hence, the um-ah behind truly getting behind II Most Wanted and then eventually doing it so late. Plus, them having no plans for Levii's despite Post (who I don't care for) being one of the biggest artists out. She gets a Levi's deal later and the song's moment has evaporated to the point that there is no resididual benefit lol. A mess! Edited January 5 by Cbreezy 4
tachiwaka Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I don't understand the thinkpieces on her winning or not winning AOTY when nobody saw Beck or even Jon Baptiste winning. There is no formula. 5 1
tachiwaka Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/3/2025 at 12:51 PM, cuteboyzay said: The way Beyonce could've done one of the BIGGEST things for country ever and be one of the first to make it truly GLOBAL had she promoted this album. I mean just look at the amount of reaction videos from people all over the WORLDDD that watched her performance. I mean she already completely changed country entirely with her highlighting and re-centering it back to the people who created it. Black people! But the way she missed the perfect opportunity and could've had a Shania Twain moment and could've made country one of the most global genres had she properly promoted this album. Sometimes I feel her vision is SO big to the point where she scares herself and just limits it. I can't really see her making an album in response to a poor reception at a country music award show to benefit the worldwide spread of country music…
Draper. Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Time's going fast, we're less than 10 days away from knowing. I'm hoping it's something that we can enjoy that same day: music, visuals, etc. A tour announcement would only lead ti more waiting… 4
Cbreezy Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 9 hours ago, tachiwaka said: I don't understand the thinkpieces on her winning or not winning AOTY when nobody saw Beck or even Jon Baptiste winning. There is no formula. This. I get the overall gloominess around the Grammys here, but like you said I don't think there is any reason to even try and rationalize their logic. It's whatever they want it to be and and whatever the reason they desire on any given year. The Jon Batiste win was most telling. Like, I can't be convinced that was a popular vote. No one even knew much about him speak less his music at the time for him to be "the" mass pick. And I don't believe the other options were "that" split that he snuck in as a dark hose. With this year, it could go to anyone. If they wanna go the vanilla/expected route, there's TS. If they wanna ordain a Pop new darling, there's Sabrina. if they wanna go faux-edgy/critic's fave, there's Charli or Chappell. If they wanna go the deserving/finally atoning for past sins route, it could easily be Bey (finally). It's all on the table, which is why I remain part interested (and because she keeps submitting). Edited January 5 by Cbreezy 3
sillycilla Posted January 5 Posted January 5 29 minutes ago, Draper. said: Time's going fast, we're less than 10 days away from knowing. I'm hoping it's something that we can enjoy that same day: music, visuals, etc. A tour announcement would only lead ti more waiting… This! It's why I'm leaning towards tour and act iii single. I am starting to warm up to visuals or a doc.
Kristie Kuwa Posted January 5 Posted January 5 39 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: This. I get the overall gloominess around the Grammys here, but like you said I don't think there is any reason to even try and rationalize their logic. It's whatever they want it to be and and whatever the reason they desire on any given year. The Jon Batiste win was most telling. Like, I can't be convinced that was a popular vote. No one even knew much about him speak less his music at the time for him to be "the" mass pick. And I don't believe the other options were "that" split that he snuck in as a dark hose. With this year, it could go to anyone. If they wanna go the vanilla/expected route, there's TS. If they wanna ordain a Pop new darling, there's Sabrina. if they wanna go faux-edgy/critic's fave, there's Charli or Chappell. If they wanna go the deserving/finally atoning for past sins route, it could easily be Bey (finally). It's all on the table, which I remain part interested (and because she keeps submitting). Im sorry to burst a bubble, but the Grammys have KNOWINGLY embarrassed Beyonce MULTIPLE times - losing against Beck with Prince presenting, losing against Adele while making sure she sits front row and immediately capturing her reaction, losing against Harry even tho raising her hopes with the genre win for Renaissance in the Dance Category and transmitting it for the first time ever I believe. They KNOW what they are doing and still choose to play in her face. Stop living in delulu land - Bey aint getting AOTY. Not because her output isn't excellent, not because she isn't selling enough. Its because they dont want to give it to her. 2
kimberly Posted January 5 Posted January 5 47 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: The Jon Batiste win was most telling. Like, I can't be convinced that was a popular vote. No one even knew much about him speak less his music at the time for him to be "the" mass pick. And I don't believe the other options were "that" split that he snuck in as a dark hose. not conspiracy hive it doesn't matter if the public knows him. he's well-known by the industry. plus, he won the year they extended the category to 10 nominees to sneak in Taylor and Kanye. in theory, a small portion (11%) of the vote could have won him AOTY. we don't know the margin of his victory, but I doubt he won overwhelmingly. 2
Cbreezy Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 7 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Im sorry to burst a bubble, but the Grammys have KNOWINGLY embarrassed Beyonce MULTIPLE times - losing against Beck with Prince presenting, losing against Adele while making sure she sits front row and immediately capturing her reaction, losing against Harry even tho raising her hopes with the genre win for Renaissance in the Dance Category and transmitting it for the first time ever I believe. They KNOW what they are doing and still choose to play in her face. Stop living in delulu land - Bey aint getting AOTY. Not because her output isn't excellent, not because she isn't selling enough. Its because they dont want to give it to her. I agree lol. They definitely have a Bey complex. I'm just saying that it's not out of the bounds of believability that they will wake up one year. I'm not deluding myself into believing it's happening anytime soon, but it's not impossible with CC. Especially as the internal justification is that it's the least Beyonce-sounding album of all. Almost like a backhanded compliment. We shall see. Edited January 5 by Cbreezy 2
Punch Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On the Topic regarding Colombia records ( Which is under Sony Music ) . I know people working for Colombia / Sony and i just remember a Friend telling me . One of the Hire ups saying " They Work for B and not she works for them " Usually its the other way around . They go above and beyond for her ... Like she is THEE Queen. Yes there might be Adele , Travis etc on that Label . But B can ask for anything and they will stand and do it . I know all these discussion and promo this and that ....but i think some of yall forget or dont know the reall impact and power this lady has . 5
Punch Posted January 5 Posted January 5 @ Vocal Hive is the ending of Ameriican Requiem Just her x Layerd vocals / stacking etc or is there also a Choir ?
tachiwaka Posted January 5 Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Punch said: @ Vocal Hive is the ending of Ameriican Requiem Just her x Layerd vocals / stacking etc or is there also a Choir ? 100% stacked vocals. You can kind of hear her tone across the variations of vocals there. I'm not unconvinced that the country girls aren't going BGV there too, but you can definitely hear Beyoncé singing her own harmonies. I also still personally feel like Kelly and Michelle are in there somewhere. Like if Michelle is not the one singing that random solo "now is the time to face the wind" then I don't know who is because it ain't Beyoncé 3 1
Fleahive Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Draper. said: Time's going fast, we're less than 10 days away from knowing. I'm hoping it's something that we can enjoy that same day: music, visuals, etc. A tour announcement would only lead ti more waiting… Darn I came on here to see if y'all solved the mystery. I need to buy a $1200 laptop that's on clearance + $600 service on my car, but if this B word announces a tour 2 weeks later I'm gonna be LIVID. I can't afford all that. 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted January 5 Posted January 5 13 minutes ago, Fleahive said: Darn I came on here to see if y'all solved the mystery. I need to buy a $1200 laptop that's on clearance + $600 service on my car, but if this B word announces a tour 2 weeks later I'm gonna be LIVID. I can't afford all that. just buy the tickets a couple weeks/months later, i doubt getting tickets for a cc tour will be very hard to accomplish 1 8
Crayzik Posted January 5 Posted January 5 You say changе religion Now I spend Sundays with you Something bout those tears of yours How does it feel to be adored? 13 1
ToraeGilt Posted January 5 Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, Shelter said: Is there a new trend? U swore it decreased to 600k at some point
ShouldersSideways Posted January 5 Posted January 5 For my third Renaissance date, I waited until an hour before the show and bought a resale ticket for a little less than face value. If it's a tour, I don't think I'm going to put myself through the presale stress and unload a fortune on a ticket right now. I know we've all said it a thousand times, but I really can't bring myself to justify it so soon after what I spent on Renaissance.
Pepo Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Punch said: @ Vocal Hive is the ending of Ameriican Requiem Just her x Layerd vocals / stacking etc or is there also a Choir ? It's only her I hope we get to hear more hidden vocals tbh. 21 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: For my third Renaissance date, I waited until an hour before the show and bought a resale ticket for a little less than face value. If it's a tour, I don't think I'm going to put myself through the presale stress and unload a fortune on a ticket right now. I know we've all said it a thousand times, but I really can't bring myself to justify it so soon after what I spent on Renaissance. Three RWT shows, I do believe you
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