BGKC Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 CC tells a story too. From Jolene to Daughter to the Hang Man in Tyrant to the fact that it closes out just as it started out with American Requiem. There's just no film attached to better illustrate the story. 1
kimberly Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 1 hour ago, yonsé said: yes she f*cked up the tracks. yes she sold y'all an unfinished album. didn't say she didn't. but it was clear from the jump a standard vinyl would be coming out after this. it was very clearly "limited" from the beginning. she did the same with ren. like i know y'all are never gonna let this go but at least be factual yes she said it's "limited edition" and "web store exclusive" then gave it to every damn retailer on earth moon and saturn to sell... Renaissance (Limited Edition) vinyl was, on top of being the complete album, a true EXCLUSIVE -- only available on her website until it sold out. Conman Carter (Exclusive) vinyl was neither. it has the wrong album title on the spine, no tracklist, no booklet, no bonus track (which she also promised). the fact that you can still buy it on Amazon for $30 is... a disgrace, really.
BadHabits Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 2 hours ago, TizTiz said: Thank You❗️IASF, and all its reprints, are not as bad as ppl want to act, especially since fans have been asking for another 'pop' moment since 2011. It may not be the best album to look back on today, but "Dangerously in Love", as an album, is a complete tragedy. No wonder she was already preparing a sophomore album while promoting DIL. If we're being completely honest, Bey didn't have a real, comprehensive, complete album until "4" on one. Any solo album before is the equivalent of a mixtape, with how many songs ppl have to remove or rearrange for her first three projects to be listenable. I agree, 4 is the first cohesive, body of work that Beyonce has ever released, but Sasha Fierce and B'Day are pretty great albums for the singles if anything. I am disappointed that Cowboy Carter doesn't have many strong moments. I was expecting songs in the vein of Timber (Kesha), 9-to-5 (Dolly), Boots Were Made For Walkin' (Jessica Simpson), That Don't Impress Me Much (Shania), Ole' Town Road (LNX) or Country Roads. Some cool up-tempos and Ya Ya isn't as explosive as it could be and doesn't really go anywhere. I was looking for some amazing melodies and catchy hooks. Joanne has more catchier songs like Perfect Illusion, A-Yo, Dancin' In Circles, John Wayne, A Million Reasons and Diamond Heart, and I wouldn't even call that a country album. 2
Joaco95 Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BadHabits said: Ya Ya isn't as explosive as it could be and doesn't really go anywhere. this Suga Mama is the song that everybody thinks Ya Ya is Edited July 23, 2024 by Joaco95 2
BadHabits Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 Beyonce could've sung songs about: 1. Up-tempo song comparing sex to riding a bucking bronco (Think Ole' Town Road by Lil Nas X) 2. Slavery and racial segregation and the freedom of being a black woman nowadays (Man, I Feel Like A Woman) 3. A song about Southern states and abortion laws (with Lana Del Rey) 4. Police brutality and incarceration 5. A song about this ain't her first rodeo and the various women and men who've tried to take Beyonce down (Hateful Eight / Kill Bill inspiration) 6. A song about how Beyonce is a cowgirl riding her horse through life and it's get lonely always being on the road (Inspiraton: Take Me Home, Country Roads) 7. A song for the gays and homophobia in country + anti-drag laws (Collaboration with Orville Peck) 8. Ghost Town - a song about how the coal mines have been shut down and so many people from small towns are poor, voted Trump 9. A song about going to a bar and knocking back drinks (Like Timber by Kesha) 10. A song featuring Megan Thee Stallion and is about Houston, Texas (Think Cali Gurls or Empire State of Mind, such a missed opportunity) 11. A song about the Tulsa Race Massacre in Oklahoma (Black Wall Street) 12. Mid-tempo song inspired by her humble beginnings and how the hard work and sacrifices made paid off (Like Fancy by Bobbie Gentry) 13. A song about colonialism and genocide of Native Americans (Cowboy theme - Killers of the Flower Moon) 14. A song about how women are seen in music, then and now 15. Love song for Jay and her kids (Similar to Islands In The Stream) Other songs for inspiration: Americano, You & I, John Wayne and A-Yo by Gaga, Dead of Night by Orville Peck, Before He Cheats by Miranda Lambert, Ring of Fire by Johnny Cash, Stand By Your Man by Tammy Wynette, Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus or Save a Horse by Big & Rich. Point is, Beyonce could've given us an amazing country album inspired by pop, dance, hip-hop, flamenco, americana, latin pop, but instead gave us unseasoned chicken that is mediocre by her standards. I just hope Act 3, most likely Rock and inspired by Tina Turner and Aerosmith, comes out much better. 2 1
TizTiz Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 3 hours ago, yonsé said: you literally said: and she literally did. yes she f*cked up the tracks. yes she sold y'all an unfinished album. didn't say she didn't. but it was clear from the jump a standard vinyl would be coming out after this. it was very clearly "limited" from the beginning. she did the same with ren. like i know y'all are never gonna let this go but at least be factual Did she do the same the alternative cover for "RENAISSANCE"? I don't remember anything past just wanting both covers (I only have the regular vinyl, from Target). But I mean, it was still the same printed album, where as this would be an alternative copy of the track list that isn't stated. If I remember correctly, even the four alternative CD covers editions were still the same track list and nearly the same booklet as the vinyl albums. Just seems like a small mishap that wasn't corrected. It should've been corrected, but so should the 5 mistakes in the standard vinyl pressing. It's not a big deal, just some of the many sloppy jobs done this era after RENI, which had perfect CD and vinyls pressings, box collections, merch collections to me. I understand some fans saying it's one of the many ways the era has been mismanaged or just thrown together, but she doesn't care. A few thousand ppl brought the standard record and her only plan to move more was to sign a few and meet ppl who were already buying the record anyway.
toast Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) The Levii's Jeans and Ya Ya sections (starts @ 29:22) of this are worth a watch Edited July 23, 2024 by toast 2
Anvarie Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 So excited Beyoncé will have another residency in the White House with a Harris Presidency
TizTiz Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, toast said: The Levii's Jeans and Ya Ya sections of this are worth a watch Really Cute! Seeing ppl put so much imagination and money into bringing her songs to life, visually, makes me wish she'd release videos for "Break My Soul", ""Cuff It", "Texas Hold'em", "16 Carriages" and "Bodyguard" that weren't tied down to her plans to drag out the 2020 decade. If she'd film separate videos that didn't rely on the continuity of the film (or, as I've been hoping, short series), the end project would still be received properly because ppl would want to see videos for the other songs. From what we saw of her and Big Freedia filming BMS. . .you're going to make us wait, for that❓ 1
yonsé Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, BadHabits said: Beyonce could've sung songs about: 1. Up-tempo song comparing sex to riding a bucking bronco (Think Ole' Town Road by Lil Nas X) 2. Slavery and racial segregation and the freedom of being a black woman nowadays (Man, I Feel Like A Woman) 3. A song about Southern states and abortion laws (with Lana Del Rey) 4. Police brutality and incarceration 5. A song about this ain't her first rodeo and the various women and men who've tried to take Beyonce down (Hateful Eight / Kill Bill inspiration) 6. A song about how Beyonce is a cowgirl riding her horse through life and it's get lonely always being on the road (Inspiraton: Take Me Home, Country Roads) 7. A song for the gays and homophobia in country + anti-drag laws (Collaboration with Orville Peck) 8. Ghost Town - a song about how the coal mines have been shut down and so many people from small towns are poor, voted Trump 9. A song about going to a bar and knocking back drinks (Like Timber by Kesha) 10. A song featuring Megan Thee Stallion and is about Houston, Texas (Think Cali Gurls or Empire State of Mind, such a missed opportunity) 11. A song about the Tulsa Race Massacre in Oklahoma (Black Wall Street) 12. Mid-tempo song inspired by her humble beginnings and how the hard work and sacrifices made paid off (Like Fancy by Bobbie Gentry) 13. A song about colonialism and genocide of Native Americans (Cowboy theme - Killers of the Flower Moon) 14. A song about how women are seen in music, then and now 15. Love song for Jay and her kids (Similar to Islands In The Stream) Did u even listen to this album? 1. this is explored on TYRANT and BUCKIN'. TYRANT even sounds like old town road. 2. this is literally what Paul McCartney wrote BLACKBIIRD about and having the country girls on it was her reinforcing that. 3. girl what? 4. been there done that. Listen to FREEDOM. 5. This is literally what SPAGHETTII is about… 6. This is what 16 CARRIAGES and II HANDS II HEAVEN are about. Literal songs about the road and horse metaphors abound. 7. She just did an entire album for the gays??? 8. No??? Why would she mention trump on her album? 9. TEXAS HOLD EM (PONY UP), II HANDS II HEAVEN (again) 10. She doesn't retread old ground, she just worked with Megan and brought her out at RWT. 11. She would be skewered for being performative when she hasn't spoken about palestine (with the whole racial cleansing theme) 12. again 16 CARRIAGES. also FLAMENCO 13. AMERIICAN REQUIEM & AMEN's themes are about how the greatest cultures were lost due to colonialism and whitewashing. She doesn't have to mention a culture that isn't hers to make that point. 14. what does this mean? 15. BODYGUARD, PROTECTOR, MY ROSE (titled MR SIR on the cd version) I feel like most of your themes were explored on this album, you just didn't seem to like it? Edited July 23, 2024 by yonsé 6 1
Lose My Breath Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 4 hours ago, yonsé said: Did u even listen to this album? 1. this is explored on TYRANT and BUCKIN'. TYRANT even sounds like old town road. 2. this is literally what Paul McCartney wrote BLACKBIIRD about and having the country girls on it was her reinforcing that. 3. girl what? 4. been there done that. Listen to FREEDOM. 5. This is literally what SPAGHETTII is about… 6. This is what 16 CARRIAGES and II HANDS II HEAVEN are about. Literal songs about the road and horse metaphors abound. 7. She just did an entire album for the gays??? 8. No??? Why would she mention trump on her album? 9. TEXAS HOLD EM (PONY UP), II HANDS II HEAVEN (again) 10. She doesn't retread old ground, she just worked with Megan and brought her out at RWT. 11. She would be skewered for being performative when she hasn't spoken about palestine (with the whole racial cleansing theme) 12. again 16 CARRIAGES. also FLAMENCO 13. AMERIICAN REQUIEM & AMEN's themes are about how the greatest cultures were lost due to colonialism and whitewashing. She doesn't have to mention a culture that isn't hers to make that point. 14. what does this mean? 15. BODYGUARD, PROTECTOR, MY ROSE (titled MR SIR on the cd version) I feel like most of your themes were explored on this album, you just didn't seem to like it? I agree. Most of those themes are VERY apparent in the album, not sure how they could miss them if that's what they were looking for 1
king_queen Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 Talking about CC being "unseasoned" but suggesting she sing "achy breaky heart" BAN HER!!! 1 5
Devin Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 10 hours ago, BadHabits said: Point is, Beyonce could've given us an amazing country album inspired by pop, dance, hip-hop, flamenco, americana, latin pop, but instead gave us unseasoned chicken reported. cc is country-leaning enough and more palatable than half the inspirations u named. 1
Lose My Breath Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 10 hours ago, BadHabits said: Point is, Beyonce could've given us an amazing country album inspired by pop, dance, hip-hop, flamenco, americana, latin pop, but instead gave us unseasoned chicken that is mediocre by her standards. Not you saying Flamenco with a track titled Flamenco on the album that includes the Flamenco palmas, which is the handclap style used in the music It's like you listened to the album, and found all the albums inspirations, and blatantly ignored them for a satire type post 5 1
Burn Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 I don't get why you'd say "I wish Beyoncé would make a song like this Lil Nas X song" or "like this Lana Del Rey song". If you wanna listen to those songs then those Lil Nas X or Lana songs are right there so just listen to them. 4 1
Redporus Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 I see someone has joined the hive to make even more outlandish takes than @Negiiiii and myself. 4
cloudbusting Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, Redporus said: I see someone has joined the hive to make even more outlandish takes than @Negiiiii and myself. there's a difference between being UNIQUE like you two and just posting bullshit 3
cuteboyzay Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) This is what I'm saying, some of y'all literally switched up on Cowboy Carter JUST BECAUSE Beyoncé didn't promo it and it's lack of streams and it's wild. Asking her to make some sh*t that LIL NAS would make!? Please be SO FORREAL RIGHT NOW! As much as some of y'all take pride in not being like a lot of these other fanbases, some of y'all sure are showing that you are influenced by them to a degree. I luh y'all but GIRL. Edited July 23, 2024 by cuteboyzay 3 1
mons†er Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 CC has really grown on me. Originally I didn't like it, I still don't care for the first half of the album. (16-27 is where the album begins for me.) It's wild to me how fans are trashing the album bc she won't promote it. If anything, her not promoting it has made me listen to the album even more and actually understand and discover the references and small nuances. I really do appreciate the artistry she has put into this album. Kamala not using 'YA YA' as her campaign song is a huge missed opportunity for both women. 1 1
mons†er Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 11 hours ago, BadHabits said: Beyonce could've sung songs about: 1. Up-tempo song comparing sex to riding a bucking bronco (Think Ole' Town Road by Lil Nas X) 2. Slavery and racial segregation and the freedom of being a black woman nowadays (Man, I Feel Like A Woman) 3. A song about Southern states and abortion laws (with Lana Del Rey) 4. Police brutality and incarceration 5. A song about this ain't her first rodeo and the various women and men who've tried to take Beyonce down (Hateful Eight / Kill Bill inspiration) 6. A song about how Beyonce is a cowgirl riding her horse through life and it's get lonely always being on the road (Inspiraton: Take Me Home, Country Roads) 7. A song for the gays and homophobia in country + anti-drag laws (Collaboration with Orville Peck) 8. Ghost Town - a song about how the coal mines have been shut down and so many people from small towns are poor, voted Trump 9. A song about going to a bar and knocking back drinks (Like Timber by Kesha) 10. A song featuring Megan Thee Stallion and is about Houston, Texas (Think Cali Gurls or Empire State of Mind, such a missed opportunity) 11. A song about the Tulsa Race Massacre in Oklahoma (Black Wall Street) 12. Mid-tempo song inspired by her humble beginnings and how the hard work and sacrifices made paid off (Like Fancy by Bobbie Gentry) 13. A song about colonialism and genocide of Native Americans (Cowboy theme - Killers of the Flower Moon) 14. A song about how women are seen in music, then and now 15. Love song for Jay and her kids (Similar to Islands In The Stream) Other songs for inspiration: Americano, You & I, John Wayne and A-Yo by Gaga, Dead of Night by Orville Peck, Before He Cheats by Miranda Lambert, Ring of Fire by Johnny Cash, Stand By Your Man by Tammy Wynette, Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus or Save a Horse by Big & Rich. Point is, Beyonce could've given us an amazing country album inspired by pop, dance, hip-hop, flamenco, americana, latin pop, but instead gave us unseasoned chicken that is mediocre by her standards. I just hope Act 3, most likely Rock and inspired by Tina Turner and Aerosmith, comes out much better. The biggest issue I have with your post is that you referenced white singers and country singers for Beyonce to look to for western & cowboy inspiration. All that says to me is that you missed each and every point that was meant to be made with this album. Specifically the original point that was stated as inspiration for the album. 1 1
Lose My Breath Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 35 minutes ago, cuteboyzay said: This is what I'm saying, some of y'all literally switched up on Cowboy Carter JUST BECAUSE Beyoncé didn't promo it and it's lack of streams and it's wild. Asking her to make some sh*t that LIL NAS would make!? Please be SO FORREAL RIGHT NOW! As much as some of y'all take pride in not being like a lot of these other fanbases, some of y'all sure are showing that you are influenced by them to a degree. I luh y'all but GIRL. It's always been amazing to me, probably tied with Renaissance as my #1. It's sad to see that it didn't get the attention it deserved, and that's the only reason I hate that there was no promo. I do think something will happen after the last act that will vindicate CC, if the visuals are released, which they will be.
Recommended Posts