suneclipse121 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 10 minutes ago, simon said: The CD/vinyl situation doesn't bother me (I bought the entire website). I actually think she should have addressed it in her limited vinyl post and swipe to her mom story about the BEYINCE name, and announce why she changed the album title last minute! People would have ate it up! The thing that really bothers me aside from not disclosing the missing tracks situation is that the vinyls were marketed as webstore exclusives one time pressings but those same vinyls are now up for pre order at Amazon and other retailers. And their cheaper!! That is extremely deceptive and unfair. It's the fact that you literally lied! Not only are we not getting a full album on the format we paid for but it's also not even really limited if it's being sold as a wide release from other retailers. Cd's were marketed as having bonus tracks but that was also a LIE!. I spent $200+ because I wanted to support the album which I love now that I've listened to it. But this whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think I have the right to be pissed. At least with Renaissance the limited edition vinyl was actually limited and included the complete album. 4 1
QueenB Posted April 1 Posted April 1 6 minutes ago, Brikenbur said: Wait could y'all imagine us getting "RENAISSANCE" now if the pandemic never happened?! can you imagine the TOUR? Ending the ballad section with Amen 1
ShouldersSideways Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I've never had an issue with deliveries where I live and somehow there was an issue with my vinyl and CD boxset. Weirdly the email connects me directly to Shop Beyonce and not USPS. I feel like I'm getting scammed
Brikenbur Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 7 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: The thing that really bothers me aside from not disclosing the missing tracks situation is that the vinyls were marketed as webstore exclusives one time pressings but those same vinyls are now up for pre order at Amazon and other retailers. And their cheaper!! That is extremely deceptive and unfair. It's the fact that you literally lied! Not only are we not getting a full album on the format we paid for but it's also not even really limited if it's being sold as a wide release from other retailers. Cd's were marketed as having bonus tracks but that was also a LIE!. I spent $200+ because I wanted to support the album which I love now that I've listened to it. But this whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think I have the right to be pissed. At least with Renaissance the limited edition vinyl was actually limited and included the complete album. Points were made! I agree, I didn't know about the CD bonus track being a fraud and also the webstore exclusive vinyls being sold at regular online retailers Either way, I'm honestly irritated with the rollouts of this and even "RENAISSANCE.” Hive can go back and forth all day, but there's no reason to not have vinyls and CD's ready to go day of release, missing tracks, missing marketed bonus tracks, etc. For as talented and long Bey has been in the game, there's no excuse at this point. She's not even out promoting the album prior to its release, so she definitely had time to get this right. I'd only give her a pass if she was busy with visuals, but even that has been rumored to have its own issues. WHAT IS REALLY GOIN ON?? Edited April 1 by Brikenbur 1
king_queen Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 minute ago, ShouldersSideways said: I've never had an issue with deliveries where I live and somehow there was an issue with my vinyl and CD boxset. Weirdly the email connects me directly to Shop Beyonce and not USPS. I feel like I'm getting scammed I just got mine today. At least the shirt is mad comfortable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
QueenB Posted April 1 Posted April 1 3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I've never had an issue with deliveries where I live and somehow there was an issue with my vinyl and CD boxset. Weirdly the email connects me directly to Shop Beyonce and not USPS. I feel like I'm getting scammed grab the tracking number from the email and just put it in the USPS site
Brikenbur Posted April 1 Posted April 1 7 minutes ago, king_queen said: I just got mine today. At least the shirt is mad comfortable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Omg which shirt did you get? Also, would you compare the quality to the RWT drop on Amazon, RWT tour merch, or the RENAISSANCE tees from the collectors box?
Pepo Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 48 minutes ago, satellites.™ said: Has anyone caught on to the obvious multiple nods to some sort of substance abuse on this album? I haven't seen it discussed, it's subtle and tastefully addressed in both Flamenco and Just For Fun. Uhm, do you think is some kind of metaphor or? Edited April 1 by Pepo
Reverie Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 hours ago, satellites.™ said: I will say I am starting to become disappointed by you guys posting so many chart and stream updates and not talking more about the music. I am chart hive so I get it, trust me, but we have 27 songs and it's been a few days now, you guys should be heavy into this album. Finding themes, listening for background layering, finding connections between songs and making a connection the the body of work. I guess I see why she didnt do visuals for RENAISSANCE now and it does make sense, mother always knows best. Don't let the MUSIC get swept up and left behind. **** a chart, success or not. This era is magic. Plus one of the most fun things about being hive is getting into all the related songs, blueprints, and inspirations behind each track before overplaying the album. Because a fan of a student of music should mean doing our homework. My list of CC adjacent artists from the writers and producers to the Country and Rock inspirations is already becoming overwhelming in a good way. I've seen even a seemingly simple Pop Rock song like Bodyguard being attributed or compared to different decades from Fleetwood Mac and the Isley Brothers to Prince, Sheryl Crow... WEEZER? and Taylor Idk about all of that but those are my fave kind of convos 1
yonsé Posted April 1 Posted April 1 28 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: The thing that really bothers me aside from not disclosing the missing tracks situation is that the vinyls were marketed as webstore exclusives one time pressings but those same vinyls are now up for pre order at Amazon and other retailers. And their cheaper!! That is extremely deceptive and unfair. It's the fact that you literally lied! Not only are we not getting a full album on the format we paid for but it's also not even really limited if it's being sold as a wide release from other retailers. Cd's were marketed as having bonus tracks but that was also a LIE!. I spent $200+ because I wanted to support the album which I love now that I've listened to it. But this whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think I have the right to be pissed. At least with Renaissance the limited edition vinyl was actually limited and included the complete album. it is still a one time pressing. once the pressing sells out, there won't be another with those covers. it will be worth more than the eventual horse cover which won't be a one time pressing (see: renaissance ltd vinyl vs boxset. you can still get the box set in stores) there was more black stock than anything else (as it was probably going to be the standard vinyl) so they sent some to amazon, who is their merch partner.
chaeyonce Posted April 1 Posted April 1 34 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: The thing that really bothers me aside from not disclosing the missing tracks situation is that the vinyls were marketed as webstore exclusives one time pressings but those same vinyls are now up for pre order at Amazon and other retailers. And their cheaper!! That is extremely deceptive and unfair. It's the fact that you literally lied! Not only are we not getting a full album on the format we paid for but it's also not even really limited if it's being sold as a wide release from other retailers. Cd's were marketed as having bonus tracks but that was also a LIE!. I spent $200+ because I wanted to support the album which I love now that I've listened to it. But this whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think I have the right to be pissed. At least with Renaissance the limited edition vinyl was actually limited and included the complete album. You are completely right. This is a mess and it's deceptive. The product advertised is not the product you are actually sending out. 1
satellites.™ Posted April 1 Posted April 1 7 minutes ago, Pepo said: Uhm, do you think is some kind of metaphor or? At first I thought it was in relation to her relationship with either: the man, herself, or the mistress. Upon further review, I am noticing it feels almost like she is speaking for us, as us sometimes. It feels therapeutic in a way too like she mentioned during the RENAISSANCE era. I may be a little off base, but I have felt it while listening, maybe that is projection, but it wouldnt shock me of the writers had it in mind. Quote act i RENAISSANCE 7.29 Creating this album allowed me a place to dream and to find escape during a scary time for the world. It allowed me to feel free and adventurous in a time when little else was moving. My intention was to create a safe place, a place without judgment. A place to be free of perfectionism and overthinking. A place to scream, release, feel freedom. It was a beautiful journey of exploration. I hope you find joy in this music. I hope it inspires you to release the wiggle. Ha! And to feel a Quote I focused on this album as a continuation of RENAISSANCE…I hope this music is an experience, creating another journey where you can close your eyes, start from the beginning and never stop. Flamenco Day ones have been tellin' me that they won't be around I hope that God knows that I'm in need of help right now Just For Fun Here's to hoping I'll fall fast asleep tonight And I'll just need to get through this Born in the darkness, who brings the light? And I just, I need to get through this 1 1
suneclipse121 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, yonsé said: it is still a one time pressing. once the pressing sells out, there won't be another with those covers. it will be worth more than the eventual horse cover which won't be a one time pressing (see: renaissance ltd vinyl vs boxset. you can still get the box set in stores) there was more black stock than anything else (as it was probably going to be the standard vinyl) so they sent some to amazon, who is their merch partner. Then don't market it as a webstore exclusive. It's still literally marketed as that right now if you go look. That's what makes it wrong and a lie. You can't say one thing and then put them up for sale somewhere else. And it's not just Amazon it's also going to be sold at Target as well. Don't mean to be argumentative but I'm just salty rn 2
Rotunda Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Bey put "II" in the titles to trick us into streaming II Most Wanted when we're looking for II Hands to Heaven
Lose My Breath Posted April 1 Posted April 1 So why is it that the reviews seems to be super critical of Bodyguard? One of the breeziest, catchiest, and out of the box tracks on the album for Beyonce? It's like pop/rock/70s gold. It's why I can't take these reviews seriously 4
Chris Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 hour ago, suneclipse121 said: I just sent Shop Beyonce a very heated email. Their reply: Yadda yadda yadda yadda ya ya yadda yadda bom bom ka ka 6
luxurious Posted April 1 Posted April 1 It's clear a different album was finalised when the physicals were made and her and her team decided to sell that version without being transparent about what you would be getting with it and in some cases straight up just making stuff up (like why would you mention that there's a bonus track and the fact that they're website exclusives if that is blatantly false) - unprofessional and I'm super sad for American fans who aren't allowed refunds 2 1
chaeyonce Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: So why is it that the reviews seems to be super critical of Bodyguard? One of the breeziest, catchiest, and out of the box tracks on the album for Beyonce? It's like pop/rock/70s gold. It's why I can't take these reviews seriously It's not as intricate as some other tracks and it lacks the southern twang critics are looking for I guess
PrudenceHCharmed Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) Thankfully I didn't buy any of the CD and patiently wait for the standard edition. After spending a huge amount of money on RENAISSANCE, I decided that I'm gonna wait and see what CC has to offer and I was right. B has got some explanation to do for this messy situation or fire someone from Parkwood that handle this. PS: I preferred if she has four different front covers instead of one cover with four different back covers. Edited April 1 by PrudenceHCharmed
ShouldersSideways Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Is there seriously no bonus track? That's so ****** up and inexcusable
Kristie Kuwa Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Im still so gagged that the transition between Amen and I'm That Girl works SO well the fact that publications dont pick this up. Thats like some next level multiverse **** Like, no ONE has done that before. No MJ, no Madge, no Tina, no Taylor. Like give her her FLOWERS birtches 1
QueenBLadyG Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I'm not upset about the packaging situation. This makes those copies bought even more exclusive and actual collector's editions because it was what WAS, but, now we have CC. I'll gladly show off both versions BEYINCE & CC on my shelf and love to tell the tale of what happened. I wish people would stop ******* complaining. Don't buy the standard physical and only stream the additional music to show her you mean business if you're that upset about her "shady business practices!" 1 2
Lose My Breath Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Is there seriously no bonus track? That's so ****** up and inexcusable Isn't it Flamenco?
QueenBLadyG Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Is there seriously no bonus track? That's so ****** up and inexcusable Now this I agree with! Don't advertise a bonus track. I was so excited for it.
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