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[Cbreezy]

6 hours ago, TizTiz said:

With or without the visuals, I'm elated this era is over. Absolutely her WORST era to date. Even if she has has the visuals on a flash drive waiting for to uploaded or currently spending her off time reshooting before release, there's no way to save this commercial suicide or any reason to drag it out. 

 

If the coding on her website for fan box set of the film is true, through the reshot visuals in there and call it a day. It's been completely infuriating seeing how her and herself put all of their energy into things that have not panned out in completion or been overhauled for simplicity. Understanding she's been in the game over 20 years, trained for her career over 30 years, have nothing to prove, technically, but this is literally her BEST overall ALBUM. 

 

How could you complete an album, such as this, and the game plan is not to capitalize on the universal theme and push this album as much as she's pushed "Girls (Run The World)" on us for a decade. Matthew has to be sitting in a corner, pulling his teeth out one by one, and I would like to join him. 

 

If her 14 year long knee injury stumble the completion of the visuals, also, nearly understandable, considering how many times the "BREAK MY SOUL" video was shown during the visuals Interlude, put that $#!| out! Maybe could've just took the MJ route and make **** films for the best songs, instead of a full fledged movie while injured (obviously, we just want visuals for all 16 songs). 

 

The KNTY☕️ bull. . .whose ever idea this was or cosigned the idea, should be fired. As if the budget was spent on the staging and could not have been spread to get someone to edit the audio. I get what they were going for with the videos, the staging during the "America Has A Problem" segment, the new dates announcement- Again, it doesn't make sense since it's solely based on visuals that have not surfaced. Same with the clam segment (which looked more incredible on the renderings and designs). 

 

It's been time to get this era over with because besides the tour, costumes and photos- there's not been anything here since the "I'm That Girl" snippet- in August 2022. The chances for a live album are also likely not to happen at this point, but I have the film off a Tokyo site and will be making my own album 🤣🤣🤣‼️ Since she doesn't feel the need to prove herself, I could honestly go without the the other acts and simply move on to an album not tied to "RENAISSANCE"! 

I get the sentiment. I think we're all exhausted and just want to stick in a fork in it and for her to move tf on. 

 

For a few reasons. 

 

As album cycles go, Renaissance - videos or not - would actually be at the end of its run by now anyway. 

 

Then, of course, there's the utter conundrum that has encased the era. 

 

I will say, though, at times I've been fine with the "mystery". Maybe Bey has made me too adept at making lemonade out of the lemons dealt, but there have definitely been frames over the course of the era where the "no video" thing has been...dare...I say...a flex. Even if inadvertent. 

 

Also, I've never been too much of a stan to realize that over the last decade there has always been a stunt or a "thing" needed that has been central to each of her main releases:

 

* ST = surprise drop, visual album

* Lemonade = marriage woes, loose narrative film

* Rennie = no videos, are there even videos, you are the visual baby

 

For me, the "no video" thing bizarrely has been pretty crucial to the centralziing of the music and  hasn't been particularly detrimental to my enjoyment of the music, the era, or the tour. It's just been increasingly...confusing. Unnecessarily and exhaustingly so.

 

I still am fervent in my belief that ish went left behind the scenes and I'm inclined to believe the consistently poured tea about her not liking the end result of the visuals. 

 

The central issue for me has been the duality of my logical stance and my stan stance.

 

Logically, knowing how Bey's brand works and how the media industry at large operates, it will have never benefitted Bey to spill her tea on there being drama with the videos.

 

I can't say this enough, we have all collectively bought into, upheld, and cemented her image of superhero-like "perfection". So, while a Taylor Swift or an Ariana Grande can pivot and "admit" to fans that xyz didn't work out, doing that in any way as "Beyonce" chips at the otherworldly wonderment that she as a performer and brand represents.

 

Add to that the bloodlust to take her down a peg or two (in the absence of any real drama), it will for sure snowball into a "blunder" that "hinders the era" and will be spun as a bigger misstep than it is. It's sadly the nature of the beast for Black performers and, more broadly, anyone whose image is "perfection". 

 

In general. I respect the idea of not putting out something you don't like. Because I'm sure she'd sooner prefer getting dragged for putting out nothing than getting dragged for putting put something she didn't believe in to begin with. It's for sure the lesser evil.

 

That said...

 

As a stan, it's hard to watch other artist's fans get fed to no end while we're fed with great music and a great tour, but the rest has been question marks and confusion.

 

Perhaps most annoying is the reality that, if ish was going left behind the scenes, there are some very cost-effective things that could and should have been done to placate us. For example, imagine the viral songs from the album actually getting a proper radio push and/or digital visualizers (Heated, Alien, etc). 

 

Similarly, imagine a mash-up visual tacked onto the end of the tour film. Perhaps of the scenes she loved most from what she does have in the vault from the video shoots. Almost like a post-credit easter egg. A trippy 5-10 minute montage that bounces from song to song. Hell, even if it was for My House...something...anything. 

 

Anyway...

 

Moving forward, Imma need the next moves to be very verbatim. 

 

There should be no guess work around what "Act 2" is whenever the next "thing" arrives. If there is or isn't a visual component, then we ought to know from the get go.

 

I don't need her to spill her plans in totality (as she'll never let go of that surprise ish in totality), but effective communication that helps manage/maintain expectations shouldn't be too much to ask for either. 

Edited January 10 by Cbreezy

[Chris]

The essays in here.

 

[ScorpiosGroove]

 

 

when it’s just her showing up saying how deeply she loved Tina before she bounces 

[BnPac]

20 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

wdym ? Cil remix is on spotify 

I meant it's a repeat of CIL remix when it was released and going viral everywhere thanks to the movie. Although CIL remix was actually big. 

[ShouldersSideways]

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

 

 

when it’s just her showing up saying how deeply she loved Tina before she bounces 

The only source for this is the Australian Today Show so I'm not getting my hopes up. It's nowhere else

[Monday Night Messiah]

On 1/9/2024 at 1:56 AM, bync said:

 

This would've been cute if this was real.

 

Dad is listening to Lemonade for the first time but already know the backstory? And he's humming to the first chorus of 6 Inch with lyrics under his breath (which he stopped abruptly - I think he realized he's not supposed to do that) when he's supposed to have not heard it before? I call BS.

 

But hope the video fools people enough that they actually listen to Bey's albums.

[ScorpiosGroove]

34 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

The only source for this is the Australian Today Show so I'm not getting my hopes up. It's nowhere else

one of them said they posted it based on a rumor so yeah…  what kinda journalism is that ?? 

 

@Yvette come here

[Monday Night Messiah]

Plastic Off the Sofa is her best song and y'all sleep on it :(

[ShouldersSideways]

24 minutes ago, Monday Night Messiah said:

This would've been cute if this was real.

 

Dad is listening to Lemonade for the first time but already know the backstory? And he's humming to the first chorus of 6 Inch with lyrics under his breath (which he stopped abruptly - I think he realized he's not supposed to do that) when he's supposed to have not heard it before? I call BS.

 

But hope the video fools people enough that they actually listen to Bey's albums.

Everyone knows the backstory to Lemonade. My grandmother knows it and has never listened to the album  

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said:

My grandmother knows it and has never listened to the album  

tell her do it NOW ! god knows that albums needs every stream it can get 

[kimberly]

1 hour ago, Monday Night Messiah said:

This would've been cute if this was real.

 

Dad is listening to Lemonade for the first time but already know the backstory? And he's humming to the first chorus of 6 Inch with lyrics under his breath (which he stopped abruptly - I think he realized he's not supposed to do that) when he's supposed to have not heard it before? I call BS.

 

But hope the video fools people enough that they actually listen to Bey's albums.

1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Everyone knows the backstory to Lemonade. My grandmother knows it and has never listened to the album  

that, and I believe the dad is a musician of sorts and he always pulls up the lyrics on genius on his phone to follow. so it's not difficult for him to hum along after hearing the chords and melody just once.

[Mitsouko]

Listening to this a lot lately. Would love an album like this from Giraffe

 

 

[swissman]

I've got to say, I did not find this era to be her "worst". Perhaps if I added up everything I might come to that conclusion, but insofar as the feelings it gave, the dedication to listening to the album based upon the quality of the music itself, and the overall vibes and cultural moments it gave us, I was completely satisfied. It'd be a different story if the record was not yet another artistic peak for her. Perhaps then I'd desire her to fill out the era by trying for hits, releasing videos, and doing performances. But with the quality she gave us? I have no real notes. The era still feels historic in a way only a few in pop besides Beyoncé have achieved, not by hammering it into public consciousness through traditional marketing "eras" or appealing to the every man, but by giving us pure art.

 

I think a lot of the Hive have found it "tough" or "aggravating" or "her worst" because they've placed upon her an expectation she simply was never going to meet, with or without the adjustments that could have made it an even fuller era even without visuals. We've known she's a self-sabotager since at least 2013, and that she has only increased the ways she'll do it with each subsequent release.

 

While there certainly were communication issues that caused a lot of fan strife, I do feel that many of her fans allowed themselves to sit in their complaints far too often and it created a Hive-culture of dissatisfaction, ultimately creating the aggravation many are glad to be free from now that the era feels officially closed.

 

I think going forward, accepting eras for what they are, focusing on the work and not the lack of, and enjoying the mystery itself is a key to happiness. And let's be honest. Most pop legends are generally not offering as much as Beyoncé did 25 years after their debut: the album is one of her best works; she set out on arguably her best tour; we got a theatrically released concert film; some of the best remixes she's ever done...

 

imo it's an era for the books. That she was able to achieve so much by doing so little is a testament to her power as both an artist and a pop star, and even if as fans we want everything maximized to her favour, she really doesn't seem to be bothered by that and for me that's all I need to know.

 

As for the visuals? I think one day they will come, but that they are no longer going to be part of the "era" as we perceive "eras" to be.

 

 

 

Edited January 10 by swissman

[dnboy1]

Some of ya'll need to go touch some grass omg.

[BGKC]

To make a long story short, It should have been Parkwood Studios that caught fire instead of her childhood home over the holiday. 
 

 

 

[yonsé]

16 hours ago, TizTiz said:

As if the budget was spent on the staging and could not have been spread to get someone to edit the audio. I get what they were going for with the videos, the staging during the "America Has A Problem" segment, the new dates announcement- Again, it doesn't make sense since it's solely based on visuals that have not surfaced.

so true. this is my biggest gripe with the era. all the visual cues, parts of the show, photoshoots and even merch references the film but she pretends like it doesn't exist? insane marketing tactic.

Edited January 10 by yonsé

[Opulence]

 

Now wait a minute

[jane]

I think the album and then the tour were the most effective of the era and tha's what Beyoncé wanted to achieve. She focuses now on the things that people will remember for a long time, anything else is noise and forgotten quickly especially now with social media, things are so fleeting, she is right to not waste too much energy on them.

[R.E.M.]

10 hours ago, Chris said:

The essays in here.

 

I'd rather that than another album ranking

[Rotunda]

45 minutes ago, jane said:

I think the album and then the tour were the most effective of the era and tha's what Beyoncé wanted to achieve. She focuses now on the things that people will remember for a long time, anything else is noise and forgotten quickly especially now with social media, things are so fleeting, she is right to not waste too much energy on them.

Albums and tours can also be forgotten quickly 

[Chris]

 

 

 

 

[Pheromosa]

1 hour ago, Opulence said:

 

Now wait a minute

 

[Triton]

So what’s realistically next for Giraffe? No more visual speculation, no more Act II or trilogy nonsense. 
 

Roc Nation Brunch - Sat. Feb 3rd, blurry videos of her mingling. Instagram Post. 

 

Not entertaining the idea of her going to the Grammys for Tina Turner, she already did a tribute. Maybe a quick lil spoken video at most. 
 

Lil Appearance/party in Las Vegas for Ushers halftime show. - Sun, Feb 11th. She’ll watch it somewhere near but won’t make a fuzz about it. 

 

Oscars Gold Party - Sun, March 10th.  No pics, just an Instagram post. 
 

Someone mentioned the cover of Essence? Is that reliable? 

 

[king_queen]

12 hours ago, Monday Night Messiah said:

Plastic Off the Sofa is her best song and y'all sleep on it :(

Anyone who disagrees honestly just needs to grow up 

[R.E.M.]

the Renaissance era feeling more like the Dark Ages