charts discussion Billboard: Female artists with the most pop radio #1s | Sabrina Carpenter gets 4th #1

[Green]

44 minutes ago, bad guy said:

Does Billie even have one? No airplay and still bigger than her peers 

 

Bad Guy

[DaenerysFenty]

2 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said:

Justin Timberlake’s “Summer Love”.

 

That said, “Umbrella” went number one on overall radio so it didn’t really matter.

Oh thanks, I’ve never even heard of that song  but like you said Umbrella went #1 overall, so it doesn’t really matter

[Brinny Baby]

Wasn't it just Ed Sheeren's Perfect that was played on radio and not the Duet?

[Hot Volcano]

Really thought Gaga would return to the top with ROM, can't believe it only peaked at #10, only slightly better than SL

[Green]

1 hour ago, Brinny Baby said:

Wasn't it just Ed Sheeren's Perfect that was played on radio and not the Duet?

When it reached #1 on Overall Radio they said they were playing both versions and they counted it as a Radio Songs #1 for Beyoncé too:

 

The song also lifts 2-1 on the Radio Songs tally, up 7 percent to 139 million audience impressions in the week ending Jan. 7 (with radio playing both Sheeran's original solo version and the duet). Sheeran scores his second Radio Songs leader, following ÷ lead single "Shape of You," which reigned for 12 weeks beginning last Feb. 25.

 

Beyoncé adds her sixth solo Radio Songs No. 1 and first in nearly nine years. Her previous toppers: "Crazy in Love," featuring JAY-Z (eight weeks, 2003); "Baby Boy," featuring Sean Paul (nine, 2003); "Check on It," featuring Slim Thug (three, 2006); "Irreplaceable" (11, 2006-97); and "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" (five, 2009). Beyoncé first ruled Radio Songs as a member of Destiny's Child with four singles (consecutively) in 2000-01: "Say My Name," "Jumpin', Jumpin'," "Independent Women Part 1" and "Survivor."

 

 

But for pop songs they only counted it for Ed (by that time Beyoncé was already removed from the credits on the Hot 100)

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8094278/ed-sheeran-perfect-number-one-pop-songs-adult-pop-songs

 

Notably, "Perfect" has reverted to being billed as by Sheeran solo on almost all Billboard charts after five weeks in which Beyoncé received co-lead credit following the release of its duet version. After its first week of release, that version was the most dominant in sales and streams, while also receiving significant airplay, as it was being promoted to radio.

 

After multiple weeks of the duet no longer contributing the bulk of its sales (or streams or airplay), only Sheeran is now credited (except on Rhythmic Songs, where Beyonce remains co-billed, as that version is still logging notable activity at the format); all versions will continue to contribute to the song's singular chart listing.

 

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So according to that when it reached #1 on Pop radio Beyoncé was already removed from all the charts except Rhythmic Songs...

 

 

But for some reason they still counted it for her last year  

 

Here's an updated look at the acts with the most Pop Songs No. 1s:

11, Maroon 5
11, Katy Perry
11, Rihanna
9, Bruno Mars
9, P!nk
9, Taylor Swift
8, Justin Timberlake
7, Beyoncé
7, Lady Gaga

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8549948/maroon-5-memories-record-tying-no-1-pop-songs-chart

[keshasfillers]

Kesha  

[eli's_rhythm]

Janet hasn’t had three since 1992??

[Green]

35 minutes ago, eli's_rhythm said:

Janet hasn’t had three since 1992??

 

According to Billboard she had 2 since 1992:

 

That's The Way Love Goes

All For You

 

https://www.billboard.com/music/janet-jackson/chart-history/TFM

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

20 minutes ago, eli's_rhythm said:

Janet hasn’t had three since 1992??

@eli's_rhythm

 

She’s only had two since 1992.

 

• If, Again, Runaway peaked at #2.

 

• Because Of Love, Doesn’t Really Matter, STCML peaked at #3. 
 

Ironically, all of her #2 Pop hits were blocked by Mariah Carey.

 

If < Dreamlover 

Again < Hero

Runaway < Fantasy

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto

[LCTV]

If we're giving certain handouts then Britney has S&M with her remix.

[Hector]

18 hours ago, stevyy said:

Mariah's peaks:

 

1990 - 1992 - Mariah Carey era, Emotions era and MTV Unplugged era - pre chart

 

1993 - #01 - Dreamlover

1993 - #01 - Hero

1994 - #02 - Without You

1994 - #05 - Anytime you Need a Friend

1994 - #07 - Endless Love

1994 - #09 - All I want for Christmas Is You

1995 - #01 - Fantasy

1995 - #01 - One Sweet Day

1996 - #03 - Always Be my Baby

1996 - #09 - Forever

1997 - #10 - Honey

1997 - #14 - Butterfly

1998 - #18 - My All

1998 - #35 - When You Believe

1999 - #21 - I Still Believe

1999 - #21 - Heartbreaker

2000 - #28 - Thank God I Found You

2001 - #37 - Loverboy

2002 - #26 - Through The Rain

2003 - #04 - I Know what You Want

2005 - #16 - It's Like That

2005 - #01 - We Belong Together

2005 - #01 - Shake It Off

2005 - #03 - Don't Forget About Us

2006 - #23 - Say Somethin'

2008 - #07 - Touch my Body

2008 - #18 - Bye Bye

2008 - #27 - I'll Be Lovin' You Long Time

2009 - #08 - Obsessed

2013 - #15 - #Beautiful

2014 - #36 - You're Mine (Eternal)

 

 

Let's not forget her career from 1990 to 1992:  https://gghunt.utasites.cloud/charts/mcarey.html

 

 

Song	Peak	Pk Date	Wks at Peak	Entry date	Weeks on chart
Vision of love	1	7/27/90	3	6/8/90	15
Love takes time	1	11/16/90	2	9/14/90	17
Someday	1	2/22/91	4	1/11/91	15
I don't wanna cry	1	5/17/91	3	4/5/91	14
Emotions	1	10/4/91	3	8/23/91	13
Can't let go	1	1/10/92	3	11/8/91	13
Make it happen	1	4/17/92	2	2/21/92	13
I'll be there	1	6/12/92	6	5/15/92	14

[Brinny Baby]

4 hours ago, Green said:

When it reached #1 on Overall Radio they said they were playing both versions and they counted it as a Radio Songs #1 for Beyoncé too:

 

The song also lifts 2-1 on the Radio Songs tally, up 7 percent to 139 million audience impressions in the week ending Jan. 7 (with radio playing both Sheeran's original solo version and the duet). Sheeran scores his second Radio Songs leader, following ÷ lead single "Shape of You," which reigned for 12 weeks beginning last Feb. 25.

 

Beyoncé adds her sixth solo Radio Songs No. 1 and first in nearly nine years. Her previous toppers: "Crazy in Love," featuring JAY-Z (eight weeks, 2003); "Baby Boy," featuring Sean Paul (nine, 2003); "Check on It," featuring Slim Thug (three, 2006); "Irreplaceable" (11, 2006-97); and "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" (five, 2009). Beyoncé first ruled Radio Songs as a member of Destiny's Child with four singles (consecutively) in 2000-01: "Say My Name," "Jumpin', Jumpin'," "Independent Women Part 1" and "Survivor."

 

 

But for pop songs they only counted it for Ed (by that time Beyoncé was already removed from the credits on the Hot 100)

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8094278/ed-sheeran-perfect-number-one-pop-songs-adult-pop-songs

 

Notably, "Perfect" has reverted to being billed as by Sheeran solo on almost all Billboard charts after five weeks in which Beyoncé received co-lead credit following the release of its duet version. After its first week of release, that version was the most dominant in sales and streams, while also receiving significant airplay, as it was being promoted to radio.

 

After multiple weeks of the duet no longer contributing the bulk of its sales (or streams or airplay), only Sheeran is now credited (except on Rhythmic Songs, where Beyonce remains co-billed, as that version is still logging notable activity at the format); all versions will continue to contribute to the song's singular chart listing.

 

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So according to that when it reached #1 on Pop radio Beyoncé was already removed from all the charts except Rhythmic Songs...

 

 

But for some reason they still counted it for her last year  

 

Here's an updated look at the acts with the most Pop Songs No. 1s:

11, Maroon 5
11, Katy Perry
11, Rihanna
9, Bruno Mars
9, P!nk
9, Taylor Swift
8, Justin Timberlake
7, Beyoncé
7, Lady Gaga

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8549948/maroon-5-memories-record-tying-no-1-pop-songs-chart

It makes sense for them to only count Pop for Ed Sheeran. I mean, the single was already #2 on Radio Songs before the Duet. It's interesting that they mention that radio were playing both versions but not the ratio; because if Ed was already #2 on Radio Sonfs, I think it leaves little to the imagination to say that it was still his version playing mostly. Maybe that's why Beyonce only gets credit on Rhythmic Songs, her version most likely made significant impact there?

[Feanor]

1 hour ago, LCTV said:

If we're giving certain handouts then Britney has S&M with her remix.

I'm going by official information, as it appears on Billboard's own website, and there, Britney is not credited for S&M.

[brainmaniac]

8 hours ago, Green said:

So according to that when it reached #1 on Pop radio Beyoncé was already removed from all the charts except Rhythmic Songs...

She never should have been credited on the radio charts in the first place. We all know most radio stations that were playing Perfect for months wouldn’t suddenly drop it in one week and play the Perfect Duet more instead 

 

And now even with their own arbitrary rules, it looks like Beyonce isn’t even credited with the Pop radio #1

[Planet Mars]

Considering Beyoncé's career today, I always forget how constantly she was played on the radio growing up in the 2000's

[FAN]

All these icons on the list  the fact most of them will never see the top (or even top 10) again

 

34+35 is coming so Ari will have 8 soon. Levitating probably has well so Dua will move up too. 
 

Camila with 5

[eli's_rhythm]

9 hours ago, Green said:

 

According to Billboard she had 2 since 1992:

 

That's The Way Love Goes

All For You

 

https://www.billboard.com/music/janet-jackson/chart-history/TFM

 

9 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said:

@eli's_rhythm

 

She’s only had two since 1992.

 

• If, Again, Runaway peaked at #2.

 

• Because Of Love, Doesn’t Really Matter, STCML peaked at #3. 
 

Ironically, all of her #2 Pop hits were blocked by Mariah Carey.

 

If < Dreamlover 

Again < Hero

Runaway < Fantasy

 

Crazy. Where did Together Again peak?

[Mirrorcle]

Katy, Rih, Tay.

[Sergi91]

Madonna doesn’t have any ?

[OrgVisual]

Katy has the least amount of singles as well I think   

[Green]

2 hours ago, Sergi91 said:

Madonna doesn’t have any ?

 

Take a bow

[Hector]

1 hour ago, Sergi91 said:

Madonna doesn’t have any ?

Her history pre-Billboard:

 

 

Song	Peak	Pk Date	Wks at Peak	Entry date	Weeks on chart
Holiday	15	1/20/84	1	12/9/83	8
Borderline	13	6/1/84	1	4/6/84	14
Lucky star	3	10/19/84	1	8/24/84	11
Like a virgin	1	12/14/84	3	11/16/84	11
Material girl	1	3/22/85	1	2/8/85	12
Crazy for you	1	4/26/85	2	3/1/85	15
Angel	4	6/14/85	1	4/26/85	12
Into the groove	6	6/28/85	2	5/24/85	11
Dress you up	2	9/20/85	1	8/9/85	11
Live to tell	1	5/23/86	3	4/4/86	14
Papa don't preach	1	8/8/86	2	6/20/86	14
True blue	3	10/31/86	3	9/26/86	11
Open your heart	1	1/23/87	2	12/5/86	13
La isla bonita	3	4/24/87	2	3/20/87	11
Who's that girl	1	8/7/87	2	7/3/87	11
Causing a commotion	2	10/16/87	3	9/4/87	12
Spotlight	31	1/22/88	2	1/8/88	5
Like a prayer	1	4/14/89	3	3/10/89	12
Express yourself	3	6/30/89	4	5/26/89	12
Cherish	1	9/29/89	1	8/11/89	12
Oh father	18	12/15/89	1	11/10/89	8
Keep it together	4	3/16/90	1	2/2/90	10
Vogue	1	5/11/90	4	4/6/90	13
Hanky panky	10	7/13/90	2	6/22/90	7
Justify my love	1	12/21/90	1	11/16/90	10
Rescue me	4	3/1/91	2	1/18/91	10
This used to be my playground	1	7/24/92	4	7/3/92	11

 

https://gghunt.utasites.cloud/charts/madonna.html

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

12 minutes ago, Hector said:

Her history pre-Billboard:

 

 

Song	Peak	Pk Date	Wks at Peak	Entry date	Weeks on chart
Holiday	15	1/20/84	1	12/9/83	8
Borderline	13	6/1/84	1	4/6/84	14
Lucky star	3	10/19/84	1	8/24/84	11
Like a virgin	1	12/14/84	3	11/16/84	11
Material girl	1	3/22/85	1	2/8/85	12
Crazy for you	1	4/26/85	2	3/1/85	15
Angel	4	6/14/85	1	4/26/85	12
Into the groove	6	6/28/85	2	5/24/85	11
Dress you up	2	9/20/85	1	8/9/85	11
Live to tell	1	5/23/86	3	4/4/86	14
Papa don't preach	1	8/8/86	2	6/20/86	14
True blue	3	10/31/86	3	9/26/86	11
Open your heart	1	1/23/87	2	12/5/86	13
La isla bonita	3	4/24/87	2	3/20/87	11
Who's that girl	1	8/7/87	2	7/3/87	11
Causing a commotion	2	10/16/87	3	9/4/87	12
Spotlight	31	1/22/88	2	1/8/88	5
Like a prayer	1	4/14/89	3	3/10/89	12
Express yourself	3	6/30/89	4	5/26/89	12
Cherish	1	9/29/89	1	8/11/89	12
Oh father	18	12/15/89	1	11/10/89	8
Keep it together	4	3/16/90	1	2/2/90	10
Vogue	1	5/11/90	4	4/6/90	13
Hanky panky	10	7/13/90	2	6/22/90	7
Justify my love	1	12/21/90	1	11/16/90	10
Rescue me	4	3/1/91	2	1/18/91	10
This used to be my playground	1	7/24/92	4	7/3/92	11

 

https://gghunt.utasites.cloud/charts/madonna.html

Where is this info. from?
 

There was no existential Pop radio chart pre-1991.

 

There was only a seperate AC and R&B radio format as well as the overall Hot 100 Airplay chart which tabulated airplay from all stations (AC predominantly) which, as a whole, was not a lot especially in the 1980’s. Also, Billboard only debuted the radio chart in 1984.

 

That is, unless, this is Radio & Records data which was/is completely different to Billboard?

 

 

[Hector]

Just now, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said:

Where is this info. from?
 

There was no existential Pop radio chart pre-1991.

 

There was only a seperate AC and R&B radio format as well as the overall Hot 100 Airplay chart which tabulated airplay from all stations (AC predominantly) which, as a whole, was not a lot especially in the 1980’s. Also, Billboard only debuted the radio chart in 1984.

 

That is, unless, this is Radio & Records data which was/is completely different to Billboard?

 

 

Yes,  that's where this information comes from. You just can't use Billboard as the defacto chart when talking about the legends (Madonna,  Janet,  Whitney, Mariah, Prince).

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

5 minutes ago, Hector said:

Yes,  that's where this information comes from. You just can't use Billboard as the defacto chart when talking about the legends (Madonna,  Janet,  Whitney, Mariah, Prince).

I know that. You can’t use BB when talking about Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder, Olivia Newton John, Elton John, Diana Ross, Donna Summer etc. also considering there was no official radio chart in the 1970’s but, of course, everyone does. 

 

That said...

 

It’s a shame BB waited until the 1990’s to commence these charts.

 

BB began formulating Soundscan in 1987. The fact that it took four/five years to finalise. They were always so behind are still are in most cases, just like how they waited until February 2005 to incorporate Digital sales onto the Hot 100 despite debuting the digital charts in March 2003.  

Edited January 11, 2021 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto