charts discussion AIWFCIY Annual Chart Run | Hot 100: Predicted 16x #1; Spotify: 2 Billion, GER: 20x #1

[suburbannature]

@Virtual_Insanity if you want to fake stan Brenda and troll lambs then do it in the RATCT chart thread, not here. 

[Carrie-is-no-1]

Both women can win but someone just want to pick a fight 

[Virtual_Insanity]

4 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

Mariah’s song is much bigger globally and those playlists reflect the massive amount of user-created playlists WW. 
 

Brenda receives an advantage from the most popular Spotify-created Xmas playlists. 

 

But I’d love to know your thoughts on why Brenda has only ever led on US Spotify and always as a slow burn takeover!

Because she is more popular in the US. It's not rocket science. 

 

Keep trying to push the lie that Mariah is not benefitting just as much as Brenda from massive curated playlisting, it's funny. 

[Virtual_Insanity]

2 minutes ago, Carrie-is-no-1 said:

Both women can win but someone just want to pick a fight 

It's just when one side is blatantly lying( as well as wishing death on her). Both women benefit equally from curated playlisting. 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Virtual_Insanity

[suburbannature]

Just now, Virtual_Insanity said:

Because she is more popular in the US. It's not rocket science. 

 

Keep trying to push the lie that Mariah is not benefitting just as much as Brenda from massive curated playlisting, it's funny. 

Who is more popular in the US? Brenda, who is behind by a wide margin on every platform but Spotify? 
 

you don’t understand what you’re talking about or you’re being intentionally obtuse just to troll.

 

A career is much-needed 

[Virtual_Insanity]

7 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

@Virtual_Insanity if you want to fake stan Brenda and troll lambs then do it in the RATCT chart thread, not here. 

You've posted more about Brenda here than you have about Mariah. 

[suburbannature]

1 minute ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

It's just when one side is blatantly lying. Both women benefit equally from curated playlisting. 

Two of the curated holiday playlists on Spotify with the most traffic don’t even feature Mariah. Brenda is top 2 on both of them - it’s why US Spotify in late Nov-Dec is the sole outlier in their stats.

[suburbannature]

Just now, Virtual_Insanity said:

You've posted more about Brenda here than you have about Mariah. 

Go troll somewhere else.

[Stuart]

10 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

Brenda has 30 million

54m actually : https://songstats.com/track/v7b2ext9/rockin-around-the-christmas-tree

 

And when she goes from 54m to 37m in a few days, before you scream sabotage, it'll just mean that she fell off the Top 50 global chart and Spotify has removed her dusty ass from the Top 50 Global playlist which has 17m followers.

 

Spotify Global (Nov 20)

#17 All I Want for Christmas is You (-7)

#46 Pissin' Around the Christmas Tree (-22)

 

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[Virtual_Insanity]

10 hours ago, Zaynsus said:

54m actually : https://songstats.com/track/v7b2ext9/rockin-around-the-christmas-tree

 

And when she goes from 54m to 37m in a few days, before you scream sabotage, it'll just mean that she fell off the Top 50 global chart and Spotify has removed her dusty ass from the Top 50 Global playlist which has 17m followers.

 

Spotify Global (Nov 20)

#17 All I Want for Christmas is You (-7)

#46 Pissin' Around the Christmas Tree (-22)

 

And Mariah's reach has also increased again to 80 million. 

 

Mariah was recently added to a couple more big holiday curated playlists. 

[Stuart]

54 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

Mariah was recently added to a couple more big holiday curated playlists. 

So was Brenda, hence why she went from a playlist reach of 34m on Nov 18 to 54m the following day. #payola

[Virtual_Insanity]

7 minutes ago, Zaynsus said:

So was Brenda, hence why she went from a playlist reach of 34m on Nov 18 to 54m the following day. #payola

I thought it was because she broke into the global top 50 and therefore gained 17 million in playlist reach overnight. 

 

Now its "payola" 

 

Make up your mind dear. 

[Stuart]

1 minute ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

I thought it was because she broke into the global top 50 and therefore gained 17 million in playlist reach overnight. 

 

Now its "payola" 

 

Make up your mind dear. 

 

And how do you think she broke into the global top 50 ? The fact that she went from #78 straight to #38 says it all.

[Virtual_Insanity]

2 minutes ago, Zaynsus said:

 

And how do you think she broke into the global top 50 ? The fact that she went from #78 straight to #38 says it all.

By gaining 3 million in playlist reach? Wow Brendas power. 

 

 

[Stuart]

3 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

By gaining 3 million in playlist reach? Wow Brendas power. 

Being #1 on the second biggest Christmas playlist on the platform surely helps.

[Virtual_Insanity]

1 minute ago, Zaynsus said:

Being #1 on the second biggest Christmas playlist on the platform surely helps.

She was always on that. You are going round in circles at this point and making no sense. Gaslighting isn't your thing dear. 

 

[suburbannature]

 

 

Amazon Music

Mariah #5

Brenda #22

Mariah #24

Brenda #41

 

Amazon Digital

Mariah #11

Brenda #44

 

Apple Music

Mariah #20

Brenda #97

 

iTunes

Mariah #10

Brenda #17

 

Spotify

Brenda #11

Mariah #16

 

Youtube

Mariah #2

Brenda N/A

 

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WW Update

 

Apple Music

Mariah #6

Wham #21

Brenda N/A

 

iTunes

Mariah #3

Wham #22

Brenda #179

 

Spotify

Mariah #17

Wham #21

Brenda #46

 

Youtube

Mariah #12

Mariah #43

Wham #61

Brenda N/A

[Virtual_Insanity]

It is obvious Mariah is going to dominate this year again. Brenda isn't a threat. Lambs should try to relax ! 

[Stuart]

1 minute ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

She was always on that. You are going round in circles at this point and making no sense. Gaslighting isn't your thing dear. 

 

 

And ? What does that change about what I said ? The playlist has 3 million followers and is the second most followed Christmas playlist after Christmas Hits and Mariah is not in it.

 

Where do you think people go when they want to listen to Christmas music on Spotify ? Christmas is approaching so obviously, these playlists are getting more and more popular. Mariah and Brenda being on huge Christmas playlists helps them a lot, but Brenda being #1 on that playlist while Mariah is N/A gives Brenda quite a big advantage.

[Virtual_Insanity]

16 minutes ago, Zaynsus said:

 

And ? What does that change about what I said ? The playlist has 3 million followers and is the second most followed Christmas playlist after Christmas Hits and Mariah is not in it.

 

Where do you think people go when they want to listen to Christmas music on Spotify ? Christmas is approaching so obviously, these playlists are getting more and more popular. Mariah and Brenda being on huge Christmas playlists helps them a lot, but Brenda being #1 on that playlist while Mariah is N/A gives Brenda quite a big advantage.

The playlist is for songs from the 50s to the 80s so its normal Mariah isnt on it. 

She still has a reach of 24 million more than Brenda so no, overall Brenda is at a great disadvantage. 

[Stuart]

4 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

She still has a reach of 24 million more than Brenda

I mean, it's not rocket science ? Unlike Brenda, Mariah has a career outside of Christmas so her songs in general obviously appear by default in more playlists, while Brenda mostly appears in Christmas playlists because it's the only song of hers that people know. It should also be noted that AIWFCIY is currently appearing in 121 charts vs 54 for Brenda, which adds up to the song's playlist reach.

[Virtual_Insanity]

9 minutes ago, Zaynsus said:

I mean, it's not rocket science ? Unlike Brenda, Mariah has a career outside of Christmas so her songs in general obviously appear by default in more playlists, while Brenda mostly appears in Christmas playlists because it's the only song of hers that people know. It should also be noted that AIWFCIY is currently appearing in 121 charts vs 54 for Brenda, which adds up to the song's playlist reach.

I was talking about the reach of their xmas songs SOLELY. 

 

Playlist reach has nothing to do with the charts so no it doesn't. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Virtual_Insanity

[Stuart]

9 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

Playlist reach has nothing to do with the charts so no it doesn't. 

You know that each country chart also has their own playlist, right ?

 

Top 50 - US : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbMDoHDwVN2tF?si=b1dbb212c1874a95

Top 50 - UK : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbLnolsZ8PSNw?si=c9999000c91d4e71

Top 50 - Germany : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbJiZcmkrIHGU?si=9ce0c9492a734595

 

Example : The Top 50 Germany playlist has 2.2m followers and Mariah is on it while Brenda isn't, so that's +2.2m playlist reach for Mariah.

 

Don't tell me you've been talking about playlist reach all this time while not knowing **** about it

Edited November 22, 2023 by Zaynsus

[Virtual_Insanity]

1 hour ago, Zaynsus said:

You know that each country chart also has their own playlist, right ?

 

Top 50 - US : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbMDoHDwVN2tF?si=b1dbb212c1874a95

Top 50 - UK : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbLnolsZ8PSNw?si=c9999000c91d4e71

Top 50 - Germany : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbJiZcmkrIHGU?si=9ce0c9492a734595

 

Example : The Top 50 Germany playlist has 2.2m followers and Mariah is on it while Brenda isn't, so that's +2.2m playlist reach for Mariah.

 

Don't tell me you've been talking about playlist reach all this time while not knowing **** about it

Ugh why are Spotify Germany sabotaging Brenda ? If she was on that playlist she would surely make the top 50.