Monster Megamind Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Enoch said: You do know streaming costs money too and Afaik isn't Old town road selling like 100k copies per week, so much for "sHaLLoW is LaSt orGanIc ItUneS hIT" It has 2 versions of you haven't noticed.
FAN Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Enoch said: You do know streaming costs money too and Afaik isn't Old town road selling like 100k copies per week, so much for "sHaLLoW is LaSt orGanIc ItUneS hIT" She’s delusional don’t even bother
Enoch Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 most of the songs in that list spent like 10+ weeks in the top 10 cant say the same for a certain song
FAN Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Monster Megamind said: It has 2 versions of you haven't noticed. And Shallow had the Grammys, the oscars, and a movie that was spammed for the gods all over YouTube and Tv. Different songs have different advantages. Don’t downplay one to justify another. At the end of the day “organic!!!!” truly does not exist in 2019.
Monster Megamind Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, FAN said: And Shallow had the Grammys, the oscars, and a movie that was spammed for the gods all over YouTube and Tv. Different songs have different advantages. Don’t downplay one to justify another. At the end of the day “organic!!!!” truly does not exist in 2019. Yes. Both are hits. I'm not down playing otr. I'm just telling you it's not easy to sell 1 million nowadays.
Monster Megamind Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Enoch said: most of the songs in that list spent like 10+ weeks in the top 10 cant say the same for a certain song That's why that song is at the 10th position
Reb'l Rêveur Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 "oNe oF tHE biGgeSt sONg oF tHe DecaDE wORldWidE" ?
Monster Megamind Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Reb'l Rêveur said: "oNe oF tHE biGgeSt sONg oF tHe DecaDE wORldWidE" ? That's why it's on this list http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm
Remixed Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Enoch said: Shallow is that low? 27 minutes ago, Enoch said: Itunes is dead , thats like bragging about being first place in the paralympics 17 minutes ago, Enoch said: most of the songs in that list spent like 10+ weeks in the top 10 cant say the same for a certain song The flamebait ridden posts Quit while you're ahead love. Shallow has ATRL pressed still. It going #1 really sent y'all off the deep end.
Enoch Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monster Megamind said: That's why it's on this list http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm using mediatraffic LOOOOL
Hurem Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 4 hours ago, FAN said: I’m barely a Katy Perry fan and you can’t provide one official receipt to prove this fact. So every song other than Shallow received “radio payola”? Convenient Maybe it would have gone higher if the GP hadn’t said no the first time with those bad callout scores! No, I’m saying Shallow had less payola than others. Funny how you’re bringing up callouts when they literally don’t matter whatsoever When Shallow debuted at pop callouts like a month ago, they dropped it the next week Y’all thinking radio plays anything they’re not payed to play is sending me 4 hours ago, wxvii said: Since when is it a problem that radio plays songs that people WANT to hear??? You claiming every single song except Shallow was “SPAMMED!1!1!” by radio so it can look bigger than it actually is in America is sending me buwygib has the most underwhelming callout scores ever yet you’re telling me people WANT to hear that? That’s sending me!
wxvii Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Hurem said: No, I’m saying Shallow had less payola than others. Funny how you’re bringing up callouts when they literally don’t matter whatsoever When Shallow debuted at pop callouts like a month ago, they dropped it the next week Y’all thinking radio plays anything they’re not payed to play is sending me buwygib has the most underwhelming callout scores ever yet you’re telling me people WANT to hear that? That’s sending me! When did I ask you about or mention Break up? Don’t you remember that silly post you made when you posted each song’s radio stats and it included TUN and 7 rings? Two of the biggest pop songs between 2018-19.... and you’re trying to call it’s Total radio audience inorganic to hype up Shallow’s US success. ot: Young Ariana run pop
Monster Megamind Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Enoch said: using mediatraffic LOOOOL What other global chart is there? It also entered the all time Spotify global top 300 too. And if you consider without me by Halsey a hit, shallow is going to out stream her on global Spotify. Edited May 11, 2019 by Monster Megamind
ahzark97 Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 7 Rings the jam that never gets old. I'm surprised that I love every song in the top 10
Hurem Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 3 hours ago, wxvii said: When did I ask you about or mention Break up? Don’t you remember that silly post you made when you posted each song’s radio stats and it included TUN and 7 rings? Two of the biggest pop songs between 2018-19.... and you’re trying to call it’s Total radio audience inorganic to hype up Shallow’s US success. ot: Young Ariana run pop You brought up callout scores and how they show want people WANT to hear so I brought up Break up, why so pressed? Shallow is and will always be bigger than any Ariana song, so say whatever will make you feel better
Erreur2 La Nature Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Happy for Ariana Grande. 7 Rings really deserves ! #1 ! Happy for Lady Gaga too. Who would have thought that even in 2018 ? Though if it’s already at 10 it might keep falling again and again. Still a hit
channel orange Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hurem said: You brought up callout scores and how they show want people WANT to hear so I brought up Break up, why so pressed? Shallow is and will always be bigger than any Ariana song, so say whatever will make you feel better you seem to be forgetting that Ariana is not getting airplay only from pop stations. 7 rings and buwyg,ib are currently #2 and #3 on rhythmic callouts, the second biggest radio format
Hurem Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, channel orange said: you seem to be forgetting that Ariana is not getting airplay only from pop stations. 7 rings and buwyg,ib are currently #2 and #3 on rhythmic callouts, the second biggest radio format It’s got 79M from pop Less than 20M from all other formats.
channel orange Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hurem said: It’s got 79M from pop Less than 20M from all other formats. yes, and it’s #10 on top 40 callouts, all of the songs above it are way older so why wouldn’t it get played over them? you can see that, for example, Shallow is #24 out of 30 songs, which proves the other person’s point
Hurem Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, channel orange said: yes, and it’s #10 on top 40 callouts, all of the songs above it are way older so why wouldn’t it get played over them? you can see that, for example, Shallow is #24 out of 30 songs, which proves the other person’s point Less than a month ago Shallow was #8 and Break up was #14 yet it was getting just as good (or even better) updates as Shallow. Why?
channel orange Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hurem said: Less than a month ago Shallow was #8 and Break up was #14 yet it was getting just as good (or even better) updates as Shallow. Why? a quick inquiry in the US Spotify archives will show us the answer
Hurem Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, channel orange said: a quick inquiry in the US Spotify archives will show us the answer Oh so suddenly radio is looking at Spotify to see what they should play? Y’all really change around the story the way it suits the situation best
channel orange Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hurem said: Oh so suddenly radio is looking at Spotify to see what they should play? Y’all really change around the story the way it suits the situation best they were doing similarly on callouts and buwygf,ib was way higher on streaming, what’s so weird about that? mind you that buwygf,ib is far more recent than Shallow as well. i really don’t see what’s so strange about all that so let’s stop this right here
istan4badgalriri Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Hurem said: Considering Shallow didn’t have huge radio payola makes it even more impressive. High Hopes: 167M (#7) Without Me: 155M (#2) Happier: 143M (#4) thank u, next: 136M (#6) 7 Rings: 134M (#1) Eastside: 133M (#5) Wow: 104M (#8) Sunflower: 102M (#3) Shallow: 91.5M (#10) Sicko Mode: 88.3M (#5) Sicko Mode and Shallow were only true hits that didn’t earn Hot 100 points by playing radio to spam their songs. Shallow just had/has terrible callout scores. It's the #1 most rejected song on Pop & HAC and 2nd most rejected on AC right now. Despite not even being among the Top 5 most well-known songs of any format. POP - Negative score #1 Shallow 26.8% HAC - Negative score #1 Shallow 31.2% AC - Negative score #2 Shallow 18.8%
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