charts discussion US Airplay Discussion

[LCTV]

Pop is eating Dua UP!!

[Shaner69]

Dance the Night is going to be Massive and the movie is not even out yet lol. 

 

I don't understand the quick atrl hate on this bop. Dua Lipa is a grower and not a quick little hit girl. 

Edited June 1, 2023 by Shaner69

[Ger]

14 minutes ago, MALAMENTE said:

Which format added Calm Down?

Actually dropped from AC.  

[Fastlane]

"Flowers" tops Billboard Radio Songs for 15 weeks, tied with "Easy on Me" by Adele. Only two female songs have more than 15 weeks atop: "We Belong Together" (16 weeks) and "Don't Speak" (16 weeks). 

[MALAMENTE]

40 minutes ago, Ger-55 said:

Actually dropped from AC.  

Oh shoot. I thought it was doing well there lol

[brianc33710]

Its strange that Last Night moved 37-30 on BBs Dance/Mix Show Airplay Chart but has still not appeared on MBs Dance Airplay Chart. I've shared links to each chart. If BB draws from MB charts then there's a huge discrepancy between these.

Dance/Mix Show Airplay – Billboard

Mediabase 24/7 Charts | Top Music Radio Song Chart Ratings (allaccess.com)

[shelven]

14 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

Zach Bryan - "Something in the Orange" 9.14 (+0.27) 

Screaming at this new audience peak during its 57th week on the Hot 100, with the "peak" only being 9 million   

[brianc33710]

30 minutes ago, shelven said:

Screaming at this new audience peak during its 57th week on the Hot 100, with the "peak" only being 9 million   

Bryan's actually #46 with 07 spins on Published AAA & 0.355 audience. But MBAI uses All-Stations & he's below #50 there (#50 has 167 spins). So 9.139+0.355=9.494, not counting any stations that might be on all-stations but just not enough push it to #50.

[pride4jc1222]

Karma passes Die For You, although DFY gained in spins today.

 

Escapism and nonsense are going recurrent, and expect Left Right to be purged. It is possible that ceilings could also fall into the purge zone.
 

Abel’s new song “Popular”, which features Madonna, has a radio deal and goes for adds this week: 

 

[Raphy23]

1 hour ago, pride4jc1222 said:

Karma passes Die For You, although DFY gained in spins today.

 

Escapism and nonsense are going recurrent, and expect Left Right to be purged. It is possible that ceilings could also fall into the purge zone.
 

Abel’s new song “Popular”, which features Madonna, has a radio deal and goes for adds this week: 

 

Oh wow very 2000s r&b-pop vibes. I wonder if it will be popular. 

[Michael196]

TW TW+ Artist Title Spins Spin+ Bullet Bullet+ Aud Aud+ 1 = MIGUEL Sure Thing 16942 -57 -664 -19 47.348 -0.095 2 = REMA & SELENA GOMEZ Calm Down 16286 +1 -343 -4 49.122 +0.010 3 = MILEY CYRUS Flowers 16214 -48 -575 +16 48.979 +0.002 4 = METRO BOOMIN Creepin' f/The Weeknd, 21 Sav. 14207 -109 -687 -143 43.805 -0.081 5 = SZA Kill Bill 13550 -3 -216 -19 38.718 +0.098 6 = POST MALONE Chemical 11382 +97 442 +143 30.387 +0.385 7 +1 TAYLOR SWIFT Karma 10197 +300 1346 +159 29.771 +0.858 8 -1 THE WEEKND Die For You 9997 +43 -596 +75 29.247 +0.290 9 = ED SHEERAN Eyes Closed 9353 +59 -86 +81 23.840 -0.068 10 = MORGAN WALLEN Last Night 9095 +56 290 +2 22.633 +0.349 11 = PINKPANTHERESS & ICE SPICE Boy's A Liar 7654 -119 -954 +45 22.836 +0.133 12 = TOOSII Favorite Song 7210 +51 590 -106 15.973 +0.032 13 = JONAS BROTHERS Waffle House 6425 -61 -26 -62 15.528 +0.170 14 = NF HAPPY 5458 +47 141 -16 11.461 +0.099 15 = COI LERAY Players 5225 -47 -663 +30 17.555 +0.003 16 +1 DUA LIPA Dance The Night 5203 +785 4988 +570 16.637 +2.090 17 -1 MILEY CYRUS Jaded 4901 +103 637 +53 9.101 +0.174 18 = D. GUETTA/ANNE-MARIE/C. LERAY Baby Don't Hurt Me 4450 +148 544 +125 9.560 +0.471 19 = FIFTY FIFTY Cupid 4429 +159 1319 -14 10.508 +0.286 20 = P!NK TRUSTFALL 3884 +127 305 +111 7.702 +0.226 21 +1 POST MALONE Mourning 3514 +223 1517 -159 7.588 +0.343 22 -1 RAYE Escapism f/070 Shake 3505 +11 -288 +132 9.846 -0.018 23 = SZA Snooze 3367 +82 598 +11 8.410 +0.165 24 = SABRINA CARPENTER Nonsense 2967 -298 -2555 +112 8.258 -0.515 25 = JAX Cinderella Snapped 2932 -75 -335 -4 5.044 -0.141 26 = KIM PETRAS Alone f/Nicki Minaj 2711 +38 124 +6 5.539 +0.215 27 +1 RITA ORA Praising You f/Fatboy Slim 2544 +34 172 -22 4.869 +0.139 28 +2 MELANIE MARTINEZ Void 2474 +61 233 +8 5.806 +0.252 29 -2 THE WEEKND Double Fantasy f/Future 2355 -285 -2399 -81 4.414 -0.466 30 +1 LUKE COMBS Fast Car 2347 +74 392 -13 4.293 +0.195 31 -2 KANE BROWN & KATELYN BROWN Thank God 2119 -301 -3142 +28 4.423 -0.584 32 = MEGHAN TRAINOR Mother 1716 -197 -1780 +19 2.691 -0.215 33 = LEWIS CAPALDI Wish You The Best 1635 +35 26 +12 4.001 +0.172 34 +1 HARRY STYLES Satellite 1487 +39 180 -1 2.533 +0.068 35 +1 PITBULL & LIL JON Jumpin 1466 +67 329 +43 2.250 +0.084 36 -2 CHARLIE PUTH F/DAN+SHAY That's Not How This Works 1427 -149 -555 -133 2.359 -0.235 37 +2 BAKAR Hell N Back 1244 +29 254 -20 1.703 +0.056 38 = FLO RIDA What A Night 1238 +11 81 -46 2.259 +0.010 39 -2 LIZZY MCALPINE Ceilings 1161 -133 -1005 -82 1.955 -0.180 40 +1 LABRINTH Never Felt So Alone 1069 -27 1 -2 1.208 -0.033 41 +1 GRACIE ABRAMS I Know It Won't Work 1032 +9 92 -1 1.285 +0.006 42 -2 XG Left Right 1007 -98 -1059 +26 1.427 -0.142 43 = JONAS BROTHERS Summer Baby 896 +73 510 +18 2.434 +0.063 44 = KODAK BLACK & NLE CHOPPA Angel Pt. 1 f/Jimin,JVKE,Muni 729 -25 262 -107 1.709 -0.050 45 = MAROON 5 Middle Ground 587 +28 233 -31 0.851 +0.024 46 = CONAN GRAY Never Ending Song 521 +16 267 -52 1.278 -0.012 47 = FALL OUT BOY Love From The Other Side 459 +6 -17 +16 0.944 +0.007 48 = DAVID KUSHNER Daylight 449 +16 103 -24 0.890 +0.010 49 = DOECHII & KODAK BLACK What It Is (Block Boy) 402 +10 74 +3 1.604 +0.000 50 = OLIVIA LUNNY Timezone 375 +9 3 +2 0.192 -0.025

[Ger]

"Die for You" is probably the 2nd most beloved The Weeknd song by GP at this point, massive success it has had.

 

Radio has no choice but play "Jaded", I mean, c'mon there are no many options left.

 

How EC isn't freefalling yet is beyond me....

[Ger]

OVERALL

 

** = Incorrect update (song was dropped from or added to a format)

 

1. Miley Cyrus - "Flowers" 98.38 (-0.20) 

2. Rema & Selena Gomez - "Calm Down" 93.98 (+0.44) **

3. Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - "Creepin'" 90.55 (+0.26) 

4. Morgan Wallen - "Last Night" 82.32 (+0.72) 

5. SZA - "Kill Bill" 70.81 (-0.47) 

6. Miguel - "Sure Thing" 56.83 (+0.25) 

7. Taylor Swift - "Anti-Hero" 52.06 (+0.18) 

8. Ed Sheeran - "Eyes Closed" 49.81 (-0.01) 

9. Post Malone - "Chemical" 45.87 (+0.31) 

10. David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - "I'm Good (Blue)" 44.46 (+0.25) 

 

11 (+1) The Weeknd - "Die for You" 43.69 (+0.20) 

12 (-1) Tyler Hubbard - "Dancin' in the Country" 43.59 (-0.56) 

13. Taylor Swift - "Karma" 43.42 (+0.92) 

14. Scotty McCreery - "It Matters to Her" 41.97 (+0.80) 

15. Harry Styles - "As It Was" 40.54 (+0.07) 

16. Toosii - "Favorite Song" 40.20 (-0.04) 

17. PinkPantheress & Ice Spice - "Boy's a liar Pt. 2" 37.35 (+0.04) 

18. Kane Brown & Katelyn Brown - "Thank God" 36.53 (-0.66) 

19 (+1) Bailey Zimmerman - "Rock and a Hard Place" 36.44 (+0.03) 

20 (+1) Coi Leray - "Players" 35.93 (-0.31) 

 

Dan + Shay - "You" 35.15 (-1.43) 

Jordan Davis - "Next Thing You Know" 33.47 (+0.52) 

Megan Moroney - "Tennessee Orange" 32.87 (+0.56) 

Cody Johnson - "Human" 32.87 (+0.40) 

Luke Combs - "Fast Car" 31.29 (+1.10) 

Morgan Wallen - "One Thing at a Time" 29.36 (+0.20) 

SZA - "Snooze" 28.67 (+0.50) 

Jonas Brothers - "Waffle House" 24.18 (+0.09) 

Drake - "Search & Rescue" 22.98 (+0.39) 

P!nk - "TRUSTFALL" 22.92 (+0.28) 

Dua Lipa - "Dance the Night" 22.38 (+2.53) 

Luke Combs - "Love You Anyway" 21.79 (+0.20) 

Lil Durk - "All My Life (feat. J. Cole)" 18.20 (+0.74) 

Miley Cyrus - "Jaded" 15.97 (+0.29) 

Ice Spice & Nicki Minaj - "Princess Diana (Remix)" 15.32 (+0.05) 

FIFTY FIFTY - "Cupid" 11.64 (+0.31) 

Grupo Frontera & Bad Bunny - "un x100to" 11.64 (-0.19) 

Eslabon Armado x Peso Pluma - "Ella Baila Sola" 11.52 (+0.21) 

Post Malone - "Mourning" 11.33 (+0.60) 

Foo Fighters - "Rescued" 10.98 (-0.00) 

Zach Bryan - "Something in the Orange" 9.40 (+0.26) 

Yng Lvcas & Peso Pluma - "La Bebe (Remix)" 7.93 (+0.21) 

Bad Bunny - "WHERE SHE GOES" 3.90 (+0.21) 

[Ger]

On 5/24/2023 at 12:49 PM, brianc33710 said:

How long was Don't Speak in the Top 10? DS had better longevity than Iris on Radio Songs. But the fact all but 2 of these songs are since 2019 shows we have an airplay problem. 

Forgot to answer this, DS was 26 weeks inside the Top 10, the 2nd longest stay back then.

[Ger]

Most weeks in the Top 10 on Pop Radio

 

41 weeks

Harry Styles - "As It Was" (2022-23)

 

40 weeks

The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - "STAY" (2021-22)

 

39 weeks

The Weeknd - "Blinding Lights" (2020)

 

34 weeks

Post Malone - "Circles" (2019-20)

 

32 weeks

Harry Styles - "Adore You" (2020)

Lil Nas X - "THATS WHAT I WANT" (2021-22)

 

31 weeks

The Weeknd - "Die for You" (2022-23)

 

30 weeks

Dua Lipa - "Levitating" (2020-21)

 

28 weeks

Real McCoy - "Another Night" (1994-95)

Goo Goo Dolls - "Iris" (1998)

24k Goldn - "Mood (feat. iann dior)" (2020-21)

Glass Animals - "Heat Waves" (2021-22)

[Gabe²]

Miracle and summer baby going for pop adds 

[Ger]

UK 8-week #1 smash "Miracle" officially impacting on Pop on Tuesday, finallyyyyyyy  

 

One of the best songs this year.

[MALAMENTE]

Another format dropped Calm Down? wtf

[wish]

44 minutes ago, Ger-55 said:

UK 8-week #1 smash "Miracle" officially impacting on Pop on Tuesday, finallyyyyyyy  

 

One of the best songs this year.

Wait, Miracle never debuted on radio yet?  so insanely late, but I hope this becomes a summer smash

[brianc33710]

6 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said:

Karma passes Die For You, although DFY gained in spins today.

 

Escapism and nonsense are going recurrent, and expect Left Right to be purged. It is possible that ceilings could also fall into the purge zone.
 

Abel’s new song “Popular”, which features Madonna, has a radio deal and goes for adds this week: 

 

I had really hoped DFY would have died for us before now. 

[Raphy23]

2 hours ago, Gabe² said:

Miracle and summer baby going for pop adds 

It's happening

[keatonzee]

Benson Boone's "In The Stars" is set to impact pop on June 13th

[Ger]

5 hours ago, MALAMENTE said:

Another format dropped Calm Down? wtf

It's back in the AC Top 50 lol.

[Ger]

This is a very insightful article about the state of Pop radio and the state of music in general so far this year. Complete article on the link attached to the title.

 

Guy Zapoleon Shares Mid-Year Music Cycle Update For 2023

 

Yes, we’re still deep into the worst doldrums in music and radio history, and it’s a rough start for 2023. We’ve seen the amount of new songs being played on Top 40 diminishing this year, and this week there were only two debuts on Mediabase’s Top 40 chart.

 

So far in 2023, you only have six songs that have become consensus powers, and that puts Top 40 on track to have 15 consensus powers by the end of 2023. That would be almost 50% less than 2022 and, yet again, another record low. Also, five of these six songs are from before 2023, four are from 2022, and one of those powers is a 2011 bring-back, “Sure Thing” by Miguel. This drought on consensus hits, with programmers holding on to their powers longer, creates a “bear market” for new music, with Top 40 programmers taking fewer risks on new artists.

 

 

It just tells you where we are in the Music Cycle, and hopefully this is the Doldrums’ lowest ebb with music and Top 40 ratings, which were an all-time low in 2022 at 4.9.

 

Old Vs New Music Consumption

 

Passionate music fans of all ages are also more devoted now to streaming than radio. Labels are more focused on finding new ways to reap more revenue from catalog streams and sales than they are in breaking new music and new artists.

 

Consider this: back in 2004, catalog accounted for 35% of sales. In 2014, catalog was 50% of sales, and now in 2023, catalog is close to 75% of their revenue from streaming and sales. That comes at the same time as labels are complaining that it is harder than ever to have a song crack Spotify’s top 200, which is filled with established artists.

 

Radio will continue to play it safe to satisfy the more conservative and, indeed, older audience that remains listening mostly to radio. In contrast, as almost always happens during the Doldrums, you see a greater focus on Gold music, with formats featuring more Gold doing better in the ratings than current music-based formats.

 

What are the solutions for music and for radio musically? It’s as simple as my friends Steve Rivers and John Ivey and I would always say, “Play The F***ing Hits.” But I add an addendum: Play ALL the hits no matter where they come from.

 

You’ve seen my complaint about Top 40 radio getting away from reflecting the national hits on the Billboard chart. Billboard’s Hot 100 is heavily influenced by streaming, and certainly the best gauge of the overall most popular music in the U.S. Yes, a portion of those songs will be streaming hits that don’t convert to Top 40 radio, but it’s a real problem when the duplication of the 100 most played year end hits at Top 40 on radio as seen on Mediabase is less than 50% on the Billboard Year End Hot 100 hits. Top 40 radio needs to get deeper into the songs that populate the Billboard Year End Hot 100.

 

2023 Popularity Charts Vs Top 40 Airplay

 

While during the Doldrums you often do see Pop at around 50% or less, which is expected, it’s still probably a bigger proportion that there isn’t enough genre variety from Country, Pop/Alternative, AC or, especially, Latin hits considering their huge streaming numbers. Also, the duplication between Billboard and Top 40 airplay continues to be below 50%, when in 2016 the duplication was 50%.

 

The good news is we are beginning to see Top 40 radio picking up on hits from Country, and of course that makes sense when you see that Country has tied with Pop at 26% for the top genre gaining the most top 10s in Billboard during the first quarter of 2023.

 

Next Rebirth Happens with Age & Consensus

 

But I still agree with Integr8’s Matt Bailey when he stated that we won’t see things improve for music and radio until around 2026, “when today’s high school seniors (reach “adulthood”) when they turn 21.

 

Also, the next Rebirth phase won’t happen as long as the consumption of music is spread out among so many digital music platforms and apps (and radio), with no one dominant place for a vast majority of people to become familiar with the new music and new artists and reach consensus on the same songs to become hits. That also will take at least a few more years for that to shake out.

 

 

[brianc33710]

OK I'll share links I see on BB Chart Beat that relate to airplay for next week's charts. Here is the Country Airplay Weekly Update: country_update_2023_0602.pdf

I'll share more Saturday, hopefully something from Rock shows up.