pride4jc1222 Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, dabunique said: where is this supposed ranking for Elton and no if Elton had released both songs without their features no one would've played it Dua carried and so did Brittney Here it is: Keep in mind, this is from 2019, so Elton has probably passed The Rolling Stones for #2 with his contributions to Cold Heart and Hold Me Closer. Dua carrying was proven false by the flopping of Sweetest Pie. (If Dua carried, then why couldn't she - with the help of another top current artist - debut at #1 and have a long chart run in some of the weakest competition ever?) I need to see how Britney's next solo song does before I can make a determination of her carrying. But the only thing we have right now is that Elton is the common denominator of both songs, which have turned out to be successful.
dabunique Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: Here it is: Keep in mind, this is from 2019, so Elton has probably passed The Rolling Stones for #2 with his contributions to Cold Heart and Hold Me Closer. Dua carrying was proven false by the flopping of Sweetest Pie. (If Dua carried, then why couldn't she - with the help of another top current artist - debut at #1 and have a long chart run in some of the weakest competition ever?) I need to see how Britney's next solo song does before I can make a determination of her carrying. But the only thing we have right now is that Elton is the common denominator of both songs, which have turned out to be successful. gurl Dua still carried one song doesn't equate to da other
Green Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: Here it is: Keep in mind, this is from 2019, so Elton has probably passed The Rolling Stones for #2 with his contributions to Cold Heart and Hold Me Closer. Dua carrying was proven false by the flopping of Sweetest Pie. (If Dua carried, then why couldn't she - with the help of another top current artist - debut at #1 and have a long chart run in some of the weakest competition ever?) I need to see how Britney's next solo song does before I can make a determination of her carrying. But the only thing we have right now is that Elton is the common denominator of both songs, which have turned out to be successful. Elton John released a song with Charlie Puth last year a month after Cold Heart as a single from his album The Lockdown Sessions That song didn't even debut on the Hot 100 If Elton carried Cold Heart and Hold Me Closer then why his song with Charlie didn't even debut on the Top 100
dabunique Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Green said: Elton John released a song with Charlie Puth last year a month after Cold Heart as a single from his album The Lockdown Sessions That song didn't even debut on the Hot 100 If Elton carried Cold Heart and Hold Me Closer then why his song with Charlie didn't even debut on the Top 100 EXACTLY!!!!!
pride4jc1222 Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 Good thing that Billboard determines the percentage of credit that goes to each artist, and not us. All that matters is at the end of the day, Elton is listed as the main artist on both songs, and will get credit for 70% of the points of both songs towards the Top Artists Overall ranking, while Dua gets 30% on Cold Heart, and Britney 30% on Hold Me Closer.
dabunique Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, pride4jc1222 said: Good thing that Billboard determines the percentage of credit that goes to each artist, and not us. All that matters is at the end of the day, Elton is listed as the main artist on both songs, and will get credit for 70% of the points of both songs towards the Top Artists Overall ranking, while Dua gets 30% on Cold Heart, and Britney 30% on Hold Me Closer. and still he was carried by Dua regardless her name is on da record hence why pop radio gave it a chance let Elton try to score a hit by himself do u have sumthin against Dua?
Ger Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 I mean, Dua isn't as powerful as her stans often state, but Sir Elton definetely used Dua to score a hit and stay relevant.
Gabe² Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Ger-55 said: Dua isn't relatively consistent with hits, she's more a hit or miss. Although when she scores a hit, it's usually a huge one (Don't Start Now and Miss Levitating). Yes, I know Dua is hit or Miss but she had the hype from the eras earlier singles DSN, BMH, L, and it didn’t carry to latter singles Pop plays like Doja and all her 7+ singles lets not forget You Right Gad week streams when released as a single and was being out streamed by album tracks, The Woman video was super late and the song was released later to radio after being a WW hit for months, Get Into It had also slowed down and didn’t chart high on streaming during its radio run both had strong singles and weaker singles yet Doja’s songs all peaked higher on Pop radio plus Doja hasn’t toured and Dua Lipa had a sold out tour
Ger Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gabe² said: Yes, I know Dua is hit or Miss but she had the hype from the eras earlier singles DSN, BMH, L, and it didn’t carry to latter singles Pop plays like Doja and all her 7+ singles lets not forget You Right Gad week streams when released as a single and was being out streamed by album tracks, The Woman video was super late and the song was released later to radio after being a WW hit for months, Get Into It had also slowed down and didn’t chart high on streaming during its radio run both had strong singles and weaker singles yet Doja’s songs all peaked higher on Pop radio plus Doja hasn’t toured and Dua Lipa had a sold out tour Callouts are the answer, Doja has one of the most insane receptions I've ever seen there. Dua, on the other hand...
Gabe² Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 59 minutes ago, Ger-55 said: Callouts are the answer, Doja has one of the most insane receptions I've ever seen there. Dua, on the other hand... Didn’t Woman had bad callouts and Get into Gad okay callouts?
Ger Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gabe² said: Didn’t Woman had bad callouts and Get into Gad okay callouts? Woman had weak callouts at the start, but improved to good. It helped that she came from three massive hits, especially NTK, which is a pop radio staple. GII(Y) debuted with great callouts.
pride4jc1222 Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 For what it's worth, some of the songs with the worst callout scores at the beginning of spring 2021 included Save Your Tears, Levitating, and Heat Waves.
Ger Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 OVERALL ** = Incorrect update (song was dropped from or added to a format) 1. Harry Styles - "As It Was" 89.72 (-0.15) ** 2. Nicky Youre & dazy - "Sunroof" 89.09 (-0.17) 3. Post Malone - "I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat]" 81.96 (-0.00) 4. Lizzo - "About Damn Time" 74.80 (-0.16) 5. Harry Styles - "Late Night Talking" 71.04 (-0.27) 6. Doja Cat - "Vegas" 66.48 (+0.53) 7. Steve Lacy - "Bad Habit" 59.28 (+0.58) 8. OneRepublic - "I Ain't Worried" 58.50 (+0.05) 9. Sia - "Unstoppable" 56.33 (+0.24) 10. Cole Swindell - "She Had Me at Heads Carolina" 47.47 (-0.09) 11. The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - "STAY" 47.35 (+0.12) 12. Glass Animals - "Heat Waves" 46.98 (-0.13) 13. Morgan Wallen - "You Proof" 45.07 (+0.61) 14. Future - "WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems)" 43.56 (-0.44) 15. Luke Combs - "The Kind of Love We Make" 43.17 (-0.24) 16. Morgan Wallen - "Wasted on You" 42.96 (-0.05) 17. Jack Harlow - "First Class" 40.88 (-0.30) 18. Elton John & Britney Spears - "Hold Me Closer" 40.84 (+1.01) 19 (+1) Nicki Minaj - "Super Freaky Girl" 38.96 (+0.68) 20 (-1) Justin Bieber - "Ghost" 38.70 (-0.18) Tyler Hubbard - "5 Foot 9" 36.86 (+0.48) Ingrid Andress & Sam Hunt - "Wishful Drinking" 34.10 (+0.23) Joji - "Glimpse of Us" 33.95 (+0.17) Tems - "Free Mind" 33.48 (+0.18) Burna Boy - "Last Last" 31.37 (+0.48) Charlie Puth - "Left and Right (feat. Jung Kook of BTS)" 30.19 (-0.44) Drake - "Jimmy Cooks (feat. 21 Savage)" 29.95 (-0.06) Harry Styles - "Music for a Sushi Restaturant" 27.47 (+0.28) Yung Gravy - "Betty (Get Money)" 26.20 (+0.11) Lil Nas X - "STAR WALKIN' (League of Legends Worlds Anthem)" 25.67 (+0.56) DJ Khaled - "STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby)" 24.41 (+0.18) Lizzo - "2 Be Loved (Am I Ready)" 24.13 (+0.01) David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - "I'm Good (Blue)" 22.16 (+1.14) Bad Bunny - "Tití Me Preguntó" 16.59 (+0.28) Lewis Capaldi - "Forget Me" 14.87 (+0.24) Sam Smith & Kim Petras - "Unholy" 13.80 (+1.52) GloRilla & Cardi B - "Tomorrow 2" 7.06 (+0.49)
family.guy123 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Was die for you already a hit on Canadian radio?
Ger Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Was die for you already a hit on Canadian radio? Yes, it peaked already at #6 on Canadian Pop.
family.guy123 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Ger-55 said: Yes, it peaked already at #6 on Canadian Pop. when?
Into The Void Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 21 hours ago, Green said: Elton John released a song with Charlie Puth last year a month after Cold Heart as a single from his album The Lockdown Sessions That song didn't even debut on the Hot 100 If Elton carried Cold Heart and Hold Me Closer then why his song with Charlie didn't even debut on the Top 100 the performance at Global Citizen is better. it bugs me the drums don't kick in until Elton sings
Into The Void Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) TW TW+ Artist Title Spins Spin+ Bullet Bullet+ Aud Aud+ 1 = POST MALONE I Like You .. f/Doja Cat 17758 +21 307 +17 56.737 +0.272 2 = NICKY YOURE Sunroof f/Dazy 16234 -8 -196 +118 50.797 -0.113 3 = DOJA CAT Vegas 16154 +105 986 +15 54.466 +0.530 4 = HARRY STYLES As It Was 15355 +24 -118 +114 53.651 -0.151 5 = LIZZO About Damn Time 14209 +31 -30 +115 46.816 -0.087 6 +1 STEVE LACY Bad Habit 11911 +64 453 +39 37.005 +0.329 7 -1 HARRY STYLES Late Night Talking 11861 -143 -673 +77 41.484 -0.336 8 = ONEREPUBLIC I Ain't Worried 11742 -72 134 -87 35.899 +0.168 9 = JOJI Glimpse Of Us 9113 +61 477 -4 25.337 -0.104 10 = HARRY STYLES Music For A Sushi Restaurant 8032 +164 835 +84 25.209 +0.331 11 = ELTON JOHN & BRITNEY SPEARS Hold Me Closer 7889 +52 727 -41 21.778 +0.205 12 = CHARLIE PUTH Left And Right f/Jung Kook 7254 -214 -224 -251 18.305 -0.486 13 = YUNG GRAVY Betty (Get Money) 7132 +46 292 -7 18.619 +0.271 14 +1 LIZZO 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready) 6375 +96 475 +95 17.148 +0.075 15 -1 NICKI MINAJ Super Freaky Girl 6309 +25 740 -81 16.915 +0.446 16 = DAVID GUETTA & BEBE REXHA I'm Good (Blue) 6091 +120 1521 -176 19.024 +0.476 17 = LIL NAS X Star Walkin (League Of Legends 6033 +107 1535 +14 19.790 +0.065 18 = JAX Victoria's Secret 5606 +107 655 +22 15.697 +0.474 19 = SIA Unstoppable 4809 +166 966 +36 15.755 +0.409 20 = STEPHEN SANCHEZ Until I Found You 4787 +172 986 +45 17.370 +0.723 21 +1 MORGAN WALLEN Wasted On You 4535 +88 326 +90 11.262 +0.241 22 -1 KATE BUSH Running Up That Hill (A Deal) 4379 -198 -1375 -13 12.242 -0.457 23 +1 MARSHMELLO X KHALID Numb 4095 -276 -2968 +124 9.528 -0.698 24 +1 THE WEEKND Die For You 4075 +107 1027 -34 13.839 +0.378 25 -2 BLACK EYED PEAS/SHAKIRA/GUETTA Don't You Worry 4075 -345 -1038 -321 8.281 -0.561 26 = SAM SMITH & KIM PETRAS Unholy 3894 +322 2938 -55 13.945 +1.031 27 +1 ROSA LINN SNAP 2454 +52 430 +28 5.254 +0.120 28 +1 LEWIS CAPALDI Forget Me 2417 +35 469 -76 5.921 +0.128 29 -2 FUTURE Wait For U f/Drake 2378 -141 -1187 +90 5.001 -0.362 30 +1 AJR World's Smallest Violin 1895 +47 545 -29 5.488 +0.083 31 -1 HALSEY So Good 1739 -269 -2933 +229 4.447 -0.562 32 +3 JVKE golden hour 1664 +62 536 -19 3.404 +0.096 33 = BLACKPINK Pink Venom 1661 +19 249 +21 2.496 +0.053 34 -2 DJ KHALED F/DRAKE/LIL BABY STAYING ALIVE 1645 -4 73 -38 2.490 -0.094 35 +1 ARMANI WHITE Billie Eilish 1641 +94 438 +32 3.122 +0.234 36 -2 IMAGINE DRAGONS Bones 1470 -155 -1606 +44 3.615 -0.332 37 = KX5, KASKADE, DEADMAU5 Escape f/Hayla 1417 +12 90 +26 2.830 +0.007 38 = MACKLEMORE MANIAC f/Windser 1334 +10 104 +1 2.011 -0.002 39 = LOUIS TOMLINSON Bigger Than Me 1327 +30 126 +43 2.473 -0.002 40 = ZEDD, MAREN MORRIS & BEAUZ Make You Say 1152 +25 109 +28 1.876 +0.09 Edited October 7, 2022 by Insanity
Into The Void Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 @Ger-55 Is Charlie submitting Loser to radio? or does it have any deal?
pride4jc1222 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I’m happy that Bad Habit broke through and is now #6. However, it can go even higher if Pop/radio ever decides to let go of old songs like ILY and AIW. There’s absolutely no reason why two artists should own half of the Top 10 on Pop radio.
Sinister Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: I’m happy that Bad Habit broke through and is now #6. However, it can go even higher if Pop/radio ever decides to let go of old songs like ILY and AIW. There’s absolutely no reason why two artists should own half of the Top 10 on Pop radio. An artist having 2 songs in the top 10 is not uncommon. Especially when one is because of a feature. That’s happened many many times over the decades now 3 songs top 10 is a new phenomenon
Ger Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 7 hours ago, family.guy123 said: when? December 2017. 1 hour ago, Insanity said: @Ger-55 Is Charlie submitting Loser to radio? or does it have any deal? I don't think so. It doesn't even have an adds date yet.
dabunique Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, pride4jc1222 said: I’m happy that Bad Habit broke through and is now #6. However, it can go even higher if Pop/radio ever decides to let go of old songs like ILY and AIW. There’s absolutely no reason why two artists should own half of the Top 10 on Pop radio. in what world is ILY an old song? it has da same time as BH and Vegas
makeme Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Looks like Harry just joined Doja and Ariana as the only artists to score 3 top ten hits at once.
Ger Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 OVERALL ** = Incorrect update (song was dropped from or added to a format) 1. Harry Styles - "As It Was" 89.28 (-0.44) 2. Nicky Youre & dazy - "Sunroof" 89.12 (+0.03) 3. Post Malone - "I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat]" 82.28 (+0.32) 4. Lizzo - "About Damn Time" 74.74 (-0.06) 5. Harry Styles - "Late Night Talking" 70.72 (-0.32) 6. Doja Cat - "Vegas" 67.10 (+0.62) 7. Steve Lacy - "Bad Habit" 59.85 (+0.57) 8. OneRepublic - "I Ain't Worried" 59.01 (+0.50) 9. Sia - "Unstoppable" 57.30 (+0.97) 10. Cole Swindell - "She Had Me at Heads Carolina" 48.01 (+0.54) 11. The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - "STAY" 47.70 (+0.35) 12. Glass Animals - "Heat Waves" 46.65 (-0.32) 13. Morgan Wallen - "You Proof" 45.07 (+0.00) 14 (+2) Morgan Wallen - "Wasted on You" 44.07 (+1.11) 15. Luke Combs - "The Kind of Love We Make" 43.48 (+0.31) 16 (-2) Future - "WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems)" 43.46 (-0.11) 17 (+1) Elton John & Britney Spears - "Hold Me Closer" 41.35 (+0.52) 18 (-1) Jack Harlow - "First Class" 40.36 (-0.52) 19. Nicki Minaj - "Super Freaky Girl" 39.72 (+0.76) ** 20. Justin Bieber - "Ghost" 38.94 (+0.24) Tyler Hubbard - "5 Foot 9" 37.37 (+0.51) Ingrid Andress & Sam Hunt - "Wishful Drinking" 34.30 (+0.20) Joji - "Glimpse of Us" 33.90 (-0.05) Tems - "Free Mind" 33.86 (+0.38) Burna Boy - "Last Last" 31.65 (+0.28) Charlie Puth - "Left and Right (feat. Jung Kook of BTS)" 29.97 (-0.22) Drake - "Jimmy Cooks (feat. 21 Savage)" 29.62 (-0.33) Harry Styles - "Music for a Sushi Restaturant" 27.98 (+0.51) Yung Gravy - "Betty (Get Money)" 26.44 (+0.24) Lil Nas X - "STAR WALKIN' (League of Legends Worlds Anthem)" 25.91 (+0.24) Luke Bryan - "Country On" 24.97 (+1.16) Lizzo - "2 Be Loved (Am I Ready)" 24.31 (+0.17) DJ Khaled - "STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby)" 24.23 (-0.18) David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - "I'm Good (Blue)" 22.87 (+0.71) Bad Bunny - "Tití Me Preguntó" 16.80 (+0.22) Lewis Capaldi - "Forget Me" 15.14 (+0.27) ** Sam Smith & Kim Petras - "Unholy" 14.95 (+1.15) GloRilla & Cardi B - "Tomorrow 2" 7.48 (+0.42)
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