Chance Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Chemical X. said: Radio IS still the most consumed method regardless of “payola,” and I don’t know why people bring up the idea of good, bad, or what’s ethical when discussing it. As long as Billboard is measuring popularity, something being good/bad/influenced has nothing to do with the chart. What’s most heard/listened to is still most heard/listened to. That being said, radio is an entirely different beast than CDs, and radio outlasting every form of physical ownership does nothing to support the idea that CDs will “come back.” I believe people bring up the ethics of payola because it’s illegal right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torturo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 How did this happen? I cant find it on itunes, nor spotify nor radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsmoker Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Shape of You is still on the Hot 100 at #23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylenaStan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chainsmoker said: Shape of You is still on the Hot 100 at #23. One of the biggest songs EVER WW Numbers: #13 iTunes WW after 13 months #28 WW Spotify with a bunch of Black Panther songs etc that will fall soon, so might be back to top20 soon #5 WW Youtube + it already sold 17-18M SPS worldwide AND is on the album which sold over 10M WW aswell... Edited February 13, 2018 by TaylenaStan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Torturo said: How did this happen? I cant find it on itunes, nor spotify nor radio YOUTUBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob.23 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Henstridge said: None of these songs broke the record for the biggest freefall of all time so I wouldn't get that brave They didn't freefall because all their points were coming from radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rabbit Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Bartier Cardi lower than Bodak Yellow on Hot 100. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homogenic Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Dua Lipa won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediabase Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 50 minutes ago, Jacob.23 said: They didn't freefall because all their points were coming from radio. What? People are talking about its freefall both on POP airplay and Overall airplay. In both instances it broke all time records for biggest drop in history. Both on a daily and weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 "How Long" has stalled at #21 the last three weeks? I'm genuinely shocked at MAX's "Lights Down Low" performance. Top 30 now?! A true zombie single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umich Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Chainsmoker said: Shape of You is still on the Hot 100 at #23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Exodus said: "How Long" has stalled at #21 the last three weeks? I'm genuinely shocked at MAX's "Lights Down Low" performance. Top 30 now?! A true zombie single. Very deserved too Edited February 13, 2018 by Miguel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemical X. Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Chance said: I believe people bring up the ethics of payola because it’s illegal right?? lol no, they care because it’s “unfair.” unless this turned into a lawyer forum when i wasn’t looking ? 16 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: I couldn’t agree more with your radio comments, and I’ve said so myself several times. Consumption is consumption. lets be clear about one thing though, I NEVER said anything about CDs, vinyl or physical sales. I specifically stated that it would be a NEW form of sales. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dark Age Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Chainsmoker said: Shape of You is still on the Hot 100 at #23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicBiz234 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Exodus said: "How Long" has stalled at #21 the last three weeks? I'm genuinely shocked at MAX's "Lights Down Low" performance. Top 30 now?! A true zombie single. It’s on the radio every 2 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) sustained paying radio to play a song that consumers don't want to buy or stream, whew the power. poor songs that peak #1 sales and #1 streaming just can't relate. Edited February 13, 2018 by fridayteenage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Shameless v2 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 20 hours ago, ChartsFan said: Sales will come back in some form someday. People will wake up and realize they are spending all this money to stream stuff and don’t actually have anything to show for it. gotta have yer own stuff after the EMP goes off people thought radio was dead dead many times, and it’s still the most consumed method of soncumption for the charts. So while sales impact on the charts are at a low point, I’m unconvinced the long term future is the demise of sales. People like to own stuff. I’ve never heard of people thinking radio is dead. As for people liking to own stuff, that couldn’t be any less true for music right now and in the past few years. People enjoy the convinenece of streaming, clearly. Even theaters and TV are being effected by that as consumers flock to services and easy access to everything. It saves money too, so don’t see the “spending all this money” part. $360 a year for Spotify or just 20 albums for the same price. Gift cards worth year of streaming. Movie Pass is $10/month to see a free movie a day in cinema? Phone companies beginning to include Hulu/Spotify/Netflix, etc. in plans for free so it won’t overcharge you for streaming data. Something extreme will have to happen to kill this progress and even if that does happen, it won’t revert back to sales. We saw sales hit bottom before digital singles came along and even that was due to cheaper options (99 cent songs). What would you propose happens for consumers to go back to spending tons of money again on music at this point? Cause you’re always bringing up these arguments.. just never with your own side of things. Just saying nonsensical things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediabase Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: sustained paying radio to play a song that consumers don't want to buy or stream, whew the power. So tired of you screaming PAYOLA about everything. Why don't you focus on this and leave organic no1 smashes alone? POP:15 -2 TAYLOR SWIFT End Game f/Ed Sheeran/Future-490 Spins-470 Bullet-2.370 Audience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I'm not the one who screams payola every day about the same person over and over and over again due to a singular fixation. but thanks. ...anyway I wonder how high true organic hit Meant to Be will peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNAMI Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 is reputation era over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Early predictions 1 God's Plan 618 (=) 2 Perfect 383 (=) 3 Finesse 376 (=) 4 Havana 346 (=) 5 Rockstar 270 (=) 6 Meant To Be 233 (+3) 7 New Rules 213 (-1) 8 Pray For Me 203 (-1) 9 Let You Down 202 (+3) 10 Stir Fry 200 (-2) 11 Him & I 195 (+4) 12 Love.192 (+1) 13 Thunder 190 (-2) 14 All The Stars 184 (+17) 15 Bad At Love 180 (-5) 16 The Middle 172 (+6) 17 Motorsport 167 (-3) 18 How Long 158(+3) 19 I Fall Apart 156 (-1) 20 No Limit 153 (-4) 21 Bartier Cardi 152 (-1) 22 Mine 149 (+7) 23 Wolves 147 (+2) 24 Bodak Yellow 146 (-5) 25 Shape Of You 146 (-2) 26 Look Alive 142 (debut) 27 Say Something 142 (-10) 28 Never Be The Same 142 (-1) 37 Wait 117 (+18) 41 Lemon 111 (+3) 42 King's Dead 111 (+27) 50 X 97 (debut) 55 End Game 84 (-10) 59 Black Panther 80 (debut) 61 The Ways 78 (debut) 71 Friends 68 (debut) 98 No Roots 51 (debut) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 MESS at God's Plan's points. No one bigger is releasing. Adele definitely wont Changing my predictions to 10-14 weeks at #1. Call it the year end #1 at this point tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Shape Of You still holding on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedastardly Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 1 God's Plan 618 (=) The stability when everyone else is decreasing. Was kinda expecting a higher debut for Look Alive, but this is still good. Edited February 13, 2018 by thedastardly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Early predictions 6 Meant To Be 233 (+3) sales t5 hit might go t5 soon-ish? cool. also in the teens on spotify which is pretty impressive given its sound. Edited February 13, 2018 by fridayteenage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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