Ascension Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, liberalmusiclover said: Oh, so this doesn't include those vouchers? This is definitely a fraudulent certification then. Quote Jay-Z’s 13th and latest studio album, “4:44,” has been certified platinum by the RIAA, based purely on Tidal streaming and Sprint download numbers, less than six days after its June 30 release. The news was announced officially on Wednesday morning (July 5) by both the RIAA and Jay’s label, Roc Nation, although judging by the photo of him with RIAA CEO Cary Sherman, it may have passed the mark (or been anticipated) much earlier. People really need to learn to read directly from the source themselves. This is why half of Twitter believe there's a line in Jay's album dissing Kim K. Edited July 5, 2017 by Ascension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Same Ol' Mistakes Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Not again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsouko Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 So in 2017 there are two ways to go platinum: after like 300 years on sale or it's automatic upon release. A mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ascension said: . You left off the "UPDATED" part where they later included that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 LOL not again with the fake platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinashebanks Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, samseacrest said: So 1.5B it is... no F**KING WAAAAYYY They just changed it to include Sprint Downloads. Variety messed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyofbadgals Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tinashebanks said: Jay-Z’s 13th and latest studio album, “4:44,” has been certified platinum by the RIAA, based purely on streaming numbers, less than six days after its June 30 release. The news was announced officially on Wednesday morning (July 5) by both the RIAA and Jay’s label, Roc Nation, although judging by the photo of him with RIAA CEO Cary Sherman, it may have passed the mark (or been anticipated) much earlier. http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/jay-z-444-certified-platinum-purely-on-streaming-tidal-1202487447/ Another platinum plaque incoming omg at just from streams I mean RIAA approved of it so it must be true, but this is still too insane if it's just from strihming congrats to Jay though, he's a smart business man edit: oh the sprint downloads are counted now, that makes a lot more sense, and still great Jay is getting dem coinz regardless of how yall feel Edited July 5, 2017 by Navyofbadgals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Tinashebanks said: They just changed it to include Sprint Downloads. Variety messed up Nnn. I see they have it as "UPDATED" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenemhat Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Poor haters. Tidal wins again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, #ADOU said: I don't know why you're defending JayZ when you (and the Hive) were dragging Rihanna for the same thing last year Please don't quote me with lies. I dragged both Jay and Rih. Then moved on to exposing the hypocrisy of certain members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Second fake plat by Jay Z lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dussymob Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 34 minutes ago, ☆lex said: queen of sketchy riaa certifications jay z learning from the best Jay Z did it first...are you really his dumb and stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miley Cyrus Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 RIAA is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3009 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Are some of you really that dense or are you just pretending? He obviously didn't have 1.5B or no matter how many streams from TIDAL, it's because of the Sprint deal. Like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Lmao. Tidal and these inflated ass numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dussymob Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, mike3009 said: Are some of you really that dense or are you just pretending? He obviously didn't have 1.5B or no matter how many streams from TIDAL, it's because of the Sprint deal. Like... That's why I despise this site, the members here make my nerves bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenemhat Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, FutureHive said: companies are not lining up to do deals with random artists who cant go gold. show Jay some respect A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE HATERS IN THE BACK Edited July 5, 2017 by Amenemhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepo Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Jay wyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoMarcoCMM Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Rumour has it, 4:44 is going to be certified DIAMOND after being avaliable @ Apple Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Sprint bought one million copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Alonzo Harris said: Sprint bought one million copies Wasting all of that damn money for a one-week exclusive instead of improving their coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, sadnews said: what are you even talking about? lol RIAA doesn't count illegal download, but only official download that pay royalty. his free download won't be counted in nielsen. so? RIAA has been based on shipment since the beginning. which is why there's differences in soundscan and RIAA. some even have few millions difference because of club copies and freebies. You completely missed the point of my post. Jay's albums were given away for free and counted. Unless they start counting free albums from his peers, then it's unfair. I understand how RIAA works. They have never included free downloads before and just because Jay is cheating the system doesn't mean it's okay. 35 minutes ago, Tinashebanks said: No that's not how it works at all. Sprint customers had to redeem the album & Sprint has to provide reciepts for transactions. It's nothing like illegal downloading at all. Literally no different than stans doing gofundme's gifting their favs album Jay doesn't need this & he'll reach platinum in pure sales eventually anyway... If voucher albums shouldn't be counted then neither should tour bundles or discounted albums sold. Clicking download on a free link is not the same as buying an album. The difference between downloading an album for free and gifting a $10 album is literally $10. A $10 difference is a big deal. If he doesn't need it, then why does he continue doing it? Why is he so convinced he needs this mediaplay? Tour bundles are albums whose sales are built in to ticket prices - meaning people actually pay for them. Discounted albums are albums bought at a discounted price - meaning people actually pay for them. Free album downloads are not paid for. 34 minutes ago, KingKT said: His last album actually sold over 1 million. Dont count Jay out lol It doesn't matter how his last album sold. He's now over certified by at least 2M which is a scam We'll see if he tries to undermine Nielsen next with some huge report of TIDAL streams. Edited July 5, 2017 by Eternium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarie Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) We have e-mailed the RIAA for clarification on Jay's Platinum certification. We will update our article should they graciously send us a reply.Update: An RIAA spokesperson has replied to our inquiry, stating "Under the program’s rules, the artist needs to be compensated and there needs to be demonstrated consumer demand in the United States, either for an on-demand stream or a sale. A sale counts toward a certification if purchased directly by the customer or a business can purchase the album or song and offer it to fans who must take affirmative steps to acquire the album or song. Fans participated, took action and downloaded JAY-Z’s album offered by SPRINT." http://djbooth.net/news/entry/2017-07-05-jay-z-444-platinum Edited July 5, 2017 by Amarie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted July 5, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2017 This is such a mess TIDAL needs way more transparency. How tf they got the platinum plaque made and presented already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinashebanks Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Eternium said: You completely missed the point of my post. Jay's albums were given away for free and counted. Unless they start counting free albums from his peers, then it's unfair. I understand how RIAA works. They have never included free downloads before and just because Jay is cheating the system doesn't mean it's okay. Clicking download on a free link is not the same as buying an album. The difference between downloading an album for free and gifting a $10 album is literally $10. A $10 difference is a big deal. If he doesn't need it, then why does he continue doing it? Why is he so convinced he needs this mediaplay? Tour bundles are albums whose sales are built in to ticket prices - meaning people actually pay for them. Discounted albums are albums bought at a discounted price - meaning people actually pay for them. Free album downloads not paid for. It doesn't matter how his last album sold. He's now over certified by at least 2M which is a scam We'll see if he tries to undermine Nielsen next with some huge report of TIDAL streams. You're acting as if Jay just gave Sprint 1 million + copies to give away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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