base talk Top 5 Most Influential Pop Girls of the 21st Century

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

30 minutes ago, Ben Ili said:

She made MANY trends, sounds and artists MASSIVE.

 

It's literally undeniable.

Yeah I'm not trying to downplay Rih's massive legacy. I just think Gaga was a more influential artist who shifted the industry in sound and visually. Rih rode many trends successfully, but she didn't really start anything, even if we're just looking at the mainstream. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. 

[MatiRod]

Michelle Branch deserves a mention. She was the first of the post-teen pop pop rock wave which led the industry to recognizing the alt rock girl packaged as a femme pop star was a very lucrative proposition. That directly resulted in P!nk's pop rock makeover, Avril, all the pop rock girls in the 2000s, which then bled into Taylor's pop-rock-country sound and all the singer-songwriter girls of the 2010s and today. "Everywhere" started it all in June 2001.

 

 

 

[bielneira]

7 hours ago, sasashite said:

The mood of pop music was already shifting before Royals. A year before we had Somebody That I Used to Know, I Follow Rivers and Born to Die.

Lorde was influential, but we're talking century here. She's not top 5.

They never said alt-pop songs never existed, but "Royals" is regarded by critics and artists alike to be the song that changed pop radio. There are countless articles and videos explaining what happened. "I Follow Rivers" doesn't even come close to the exposure of "Royals". "Somebody That I Used To Know" was way more radio friendly than "Royals" at the time, and "Born To Die" is pretty much a very commercial album, plus an antithesis of 'Pure Heroine'.

And almost every new pop girl has or had Lorde as one of their biggest influences, even those who never speak about her are easy to spot out.

edit: and her influence is not only seen in sound, but also lyrics (themes that weren't recurrent in the pop mainstream started to get more attention after "Royals", the 'anti-pop') and musicians relationships with producer (she is acknowledge for popularizing the formula 1 singer-songwriter/1 producer that a lot of artists followed, including Olivia, Billie, Taylor, Lana etc).

Edited 23 hours ago by bielneira

[suburbannature]

6 minutes ago, bielneira said:

They never said alt-pop songs never existed, but "Royals" is regarded by critics and artists alike to be the song that changed pop radio. There are countless articles and videos explaining what happened. "I Follow Rivers" doesn't even come close to the exposure of "Royals". "Somebody That I Used To Know" was way more radio friendly than "Royals" at the time, and "Born To Die" is pretty much a very commercial album, plus an antithesis of 'Pure Heroine'.

And almost every new pop girl has or had Lorde as one of their biggest influences, even those who never speak about her are easy to spot out.

edit: and her influence is not only seen in sound, but also lyrics (themes that weren't recurrent in the pop mainstream started to get more attention after "Royals", the 'anti-pop') and musicians relationships with producer (she is acknowledge for popularizing the formula 1 singer-songwriter/1 producer that a lot of artists followed, including Olivia, Billie, Taylor, Lana etc).

Girl, everyone knows that this was Lana's doing. Please let it go.

[bielneira]

Just now, suburbannature said:

Girl, everyone knows that this was Lana's doing. Please let it go.

Sure, grandma! Now let's get you to bed

[Sazare]

Lorde, Avril, Gaga, Beyoncé, & Amy

Edited 23 hours ago by Sazare

[suburbannature]

10 minutes ago, bielneira said:

Sure, grandma! Now let's get you to bed

Put me to bed like the GP did to your fave's career 

 

[MonsterNavy]

Rihanna

Lana Del Rey

Lady Gaga

Beyoncé

Britney Spears

Taylor Swift

 

in this order

 

edit: yes, avril too

Edited 22 hours ago by MonsterNavy

[bielneira]

1 minute ago, suburbannature said:

Put me to bed like the GP did to your fave's career 

 

I couldn't care less if people I don't even know exist listen to Lorde or not LMAO

[istan4badgalriri]

11 hours ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

Yeah I'm not trying to downplay Rih's massive legacy. I just think Gaga was a more influential artist who shifted the industry in sound and visually. Rih rode many trends successfully, but she didn't really start anything, even if we're just looking at the mainstream. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. 

I mean she put Calvin Harris on the map and made his sound go mainstream with We Found Love. She massively helped Drake break out outside America with What's My Name, his first worldwide hit.

She started a trend of dancehall-infused pop/R&B songs with Rude Boy & What's My Name circa 2011 when other pop girls tried to replicate that formula (JLo's "Into You" / Nicole's "Right There" / Keri Hilson's "Lose Control" / Kelly Rowland's "Lay It On Me"). She was the first pop girl to embrace the trap sound with Pour It Up back in 2012 and was a pioneer in the dance-pop trend of the late 2000s (Don't Stop The Music, SOS, Disturbia).

 

She's undeniably in the top 5 most influential pop girls of this century and she's not #5. The fact she's been on a hiatus for nearly a decade and the new generation of pop girls cite her as an inspiration today speaks for itself.

Edited 18 hours ago by istan4badgalriri

[Eternium]

1. Britney Spears

2. Beyonce

3. Lady Gaga

4. Lana Del Rey

5. Toss up between Rihanna and Taylor Swift

[Blackout2006]

23 hours ago, sasashite said:

The mood of pop music was already shifting before Royals. A year before we had Somebody That I Used to Know, I Follow Rivers and Born to Die.

Lorde was influential, but we're talking century here. She's not top 5.

The whole thing of "cursive singers" became a thing after Lorde

[dumbsparce]

Rihanna

Gaga

Lana

Britney

Nicki

 

[Robyn.]

It's literally in no order...

 

Rihanna

Beyoncé

Britney

Taylor

Gaga

 

21st century speaking they've all dominated at some point...

Britney during 2000-2007, Rihanna during 2007-2013, Gaga during 2008-2011, Beyoncé during 2014-2017, etc.

[UnusualBoy]

Britney

Lana

Bey

Gaga

Taylor

 

With Rihanna being an HM.