charts discussion Gaga's Abracadabra one of the biggest second singles in recent memory, suprised?

[Magno]

BIrds of a feather is also wasaayyyy bigger than It , and was Second single after Lunch 

[Magno]

9 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

Deja Vu: 11 official charts. 

Good luck trying to reach its streams

[Doctor Dick]

5 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Abracadabra went top 10 in 16 countries' official charts, according to wikipedia. I think your count includes numerous airplay charts but these do not account for overall song consumption. 

 

Also, what do you consider recent memory? Because songs like

 

Birds of a Feather

Please Please Please

luther

 

are still going very strong and are undeniably way bigger hits than Abracadabra.

 

And Ari's song would've gone Top 10 in like 19, so what's your point? Most countries do NOT have consumption charts so when counting global charts you have to account for airplay charts. 

 

I assume you want to nitpick this because it's Gaga and not Katy but Abracadabra has officially gone Top 10 in around 30 countries in what they count as their official charts. And yes, airplay charts are official charts as well. 

Edited yesterday at 10:09 PM by Doctor Dick

[Popboi.]

18 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

It's implying that it's a big hit. And if you look at Europe, it's a bigger hit than Please Please Please. Instead of fuming, please join us in celebrating that it was deemed to be a flop, but ended up being a huge hit internationally and has added even more territories where it peaked Top 10 and even more #1s. Similarly to the songs mentioned by you, it has gone Top 10 in Europe, the Middle East, Asia and LATAM. I think the only reason YOU are implying it isn't near those songs is because Abracadabra didn't go Top 10 in the US or Canada which makes it seem like a lessor hit. Ask anyone in Europe and they'll probably place it in the ball-park of those hits (well, except BOAF). 

 

 

It's not bigger than Please Please Please on any European chart  peaks are not everything. For example it's likely to fall below PPP in UK next week, difference being one is almost a whole year older than the other. 

 

You can celebrate it being a hit without saying something outrageously false 

Edited yesterday at 10:13 PM by Popboi.

[Doctor Dick]

1 minute ago, Popboi. said:

It's not bigger than Please Please Please on any European chart  peaks are not everything. For example it's likely to fall below PPP in UK next week, difference being one is almost a whole year older than the other. 

I mean, you're already comparing the longevity of a song that's been out for almost a year to a song that's peaking right now. Abracadabra has reached the Top 10 in more countries than PPP and is currently still charting high in many territories in Europe so we can't say for certain. 

 

It's still nitpicking because the point of this thread is not that it's bigger, it's that it's a global hit. 

[OrgVisual]

Liddos and their made-up methodology

 

One moment "Global 200 is the indication of hit" (which WCBF went #1 for example while Abra never did); and now "How many countries it went top 10"

[KatyPrismSpirit]

33 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

And Ari's song would've gone Top 10 in like 19, so what's your point? Most countries do NOT have consumption charts so when counting global charts you have to account for airplay charts. 

 

I assume you want to nitpick this because it's Gaga and not Katy but Abracadabra has officially gone Top 10 of around 30 countries in what they count as their official charts. And yes, airplay charts are official charts as well. 

I mean it's not nitpicking. I personally don't think the measure you use is that effective to determine how big a song is. Especially when you have other measures you can compare that are more effective for a good comparison (i.e. official chart peaks of major music markets, weeks in the top 10, YouTube & Spotify streams etc.) It helps for a better and fairer comparison.

 

Because even a monster flop like Woman's World went top 10 in like 20 nations' official Airplay Charts. That feat doesn't necessarily hold much value if the countries are quite small and are like I said, solely based on radio.

Edited 23 hours ago by KatyPrismSpirit

[Magno]

23 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Abracadabra went top 10 in 16 countries' official charts, according to wikipedia. I think your count includes numerous airplay charts but these do not account for overall song consumption. 

 

Also, what do you consider recent memory? Because songs like

 

Birds of a Feather

Please Please Please

luther

 

are still going very strong and are undeniably way bigger hits than Abracadabra.

 

I meant ...

[Magno]

10 minutes ago, OrgVisual said:

Liddos and their made-up methodology

 

One moment "Global 200 is the indication of hit" (which WCBF went #1 for example while Abra never did); and now "How many countries it went top 10"

Their CUT is Crazy and funny 

[Doctor Dick]

2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

I mean it's not nitpicking. I personally don't think the measure you use is that effective to determine how big a song is. Especially when you have other measures you can compare that are more effective for a good comparison (i.e. official chart peaks of major music markets, weeks in the top 10, YouTube & Spotify streams etc.) It helps for a better and fairer comparison.

 

Because even a monster flop like Woman's World went top 10 in like 20 nations' official Airplay Charts. That feat doesn't necessarily hold much value if the countries are quite small and are like ai said, solely based on radio.

But Abracadabra is doing good in all those areas and is in fact a big hit. Regardless if it's not as big as BOAF or PPP. 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

But Abracadabra is doing good in all those areas and is in fact a big hit. Regardless if it's not as big as BOAF or PPP. 

I mean if you would compare it with more effective measures (the ones I just mentioned) then I personally don't think Abracadabra holds up as well compared to the other big second singles we just mentioned: WCBF, luther, Please Please Please, Birds of a Feather etc. 
 

It's up there, but the argument that it's one of the biggest second singles of recent memory does fall flat. 

[elincomprendid]

Considering is a comparable 2nd single to BOAF, PPP & WCBF plus it had the super smash hit of DWAS I assume the album gonna break records left & right!

[єѕℓαм]

Surprised? No 

she's a global legend and that's what global legends do

[By the Water]

All those top 10 peaks yet it couldn't go #1 on the Global 200, which apparently is a very important chart

 

Slay those 200 streams from Latvia

 

[nikevo2925]

It's the biggest song released globally this year and it's only been 2 months. Godabadacabra will continue to light a fire under OGHs ass for the rest of the year with the milestones it will achieve 

[Maneater]

I swear it's always you setting Gaga up 

 

[OrgVisual]

5 minutes ago, nikevo2925 said:

It's the biggest song released globally this year and it's only been 2 months. Godabadacabra will continue to light a fire under OGHs ass for the rest of the year with the milestones it will achieve 

The lies after lies

 

Dtmf has 600M streams and still currently in top 10 Global 

[Shelter]

If you say so 

 

[Mikeymoonshine]

1 hour ago, NoAngelus said:

I mean you can't choose week and say it would've gone top 3. Using that logic we can also all pretend that #2 and #3 peak singles would've been #1 if we use their peak points and weak week.

I'm confused by your point? I'm not saying it went top 3 because it could have gone top 3 this week if it was doing what it did at it's peak. I'm saying it's peak was at a very competitive time and usually 166 points would be enough for a top 10 placement even top 3 some weeks. I'm saying it did as well as many songs that have gone top 10 it was just unlucky with it's release window. How is any of that incorrect or something I can't say? 

[Xtina23]

Well considering that song is banned in my household, I don't think so!!

[Doctor Dick]

1 hour ago, By the Water said:

All those top 10 peaks yet it couldn't go #1 on the Global 200, which apparently is a very important chart

 

Slay those 200 streams from Latvia

 

Spotify Latvia: 319,457 

And the millions from Germany or the UK but I'm not going to post them so you don't fume even more. 

[HardBambi]

3 hours ago, Devin said:

should have peaked in the top ten.

Absolutely 

[Pheromosa]

the way this ******* song is either the lead or single 2 or 3 is insane Gaga what have you done

[Assassin]

255M streams on Spotify.

[Magno]

14 minutes ago, Assassin said:

255M streams on Spotify.

I Die lol