celeb news Lizzo: Britney is a Janet impersonator

[Jeremiah]

16 hours ago, Phaunzie said:

Britney's entire performance style is based on Janet Jackson, so yesh

 

Britney's first two albums were based on Robyn, who rejected Jive's record's offer. Jive records would then try to make a new Robyn hence newly signed Britney was turned into Bubblegum Debut Brit.  This was during Britney's time with the group Innosense, before her departure. Musically, Britney would go full Janet during the ITZ era, "I'm A Slave for You", Early Morning, Boom Boom, Me Against the Music, Touch of My Hand and Breathe on Me. 

 

 

Britney's first albums have the Cheiron sound, which Robyn doesn't own and didn't create. "...Baby One More Time", the groundbreaking classic that put Britney in the map, was first pitched as an R&B song for TLC, so nothing close to "based on Robyn". And one main factor that made Britney a megastar is her passion for dancing, something she wanted to showcase and took her label executives by surprise. Paired with her ideas for striking visuals, Britney crafted her own brand and style.

 

 

I wish I could blame this disrespectful attempts to discredit Britney's artistry on ignorance, but plenty of people who has worked with her have expressed how involved and hands-on she is, so I can't help but think you people just hate to give props to a successful woman and to admit she's her own creator.

 

Btw, not even Robyn agrees with you:

 

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Speaking of Britney, your rejecting a deal with Jive Records years ago was crucial to her success, and this led Max Martin to write some of the most defining pop songs of the past two decades. In essence, I would say each subsequent wave of pop music has been an extension of your legacy. How do you feel about the direction in which both pop music and your legacy are expanding?

I don't agree. I think Max Martin would have written those songs anyway, whether I rejected it or not. I think he's extremely talented and good at what he does. I don't think I would have changed the course of his effect on the music industry. I think that would have happened even if I wasn't there.

 

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[Frappucino]

Maybe impersonator was a poor choice of words. Kinda like how her singles did poorly. Hopefully she doesn't end up poor, period 

[JustHoran]

On 4/3/2025 at 8:17 PM, Bussea said:

She's not wrong lmao. Even Britney would tell you that Janet is her mother but watch people be mad for the sake of being mad 

Britney has always said Janet is an inspiration, but impersonator is not true. That's why people are mad. Didn't know that was hard to understand but this is ATRL.

[JustHoran]

That Britney voodoo is coming for that khia

[Bad_vocal_technique]

 

[dumbsparce]

One thing I learned from this thread is that Lizzo is apparently an MTrain impersonator herself  I totally see it now that the seed has been planted.  

[BionicWooHoo]

5 hours ago, PoisonPill said:

I hope you can self-reflect on why, as a grown adult man, you feel the need to make juvenile snarky digs in the name of a quarter-century-old stan feud. If you feel that Britney did not contribute to her artistic identity, I would be genuinely interested in hearing you articulate your reasoning. 

The absolute brains for worms of the Britney stanbase to act like I need to be more kumbayah because I pointed out that Britney does not have the same creative impact on her body of work as Janet when you look at the numbers. In terms of percentage, Janet as 3 times as many songwriting credits on her catalog. How is it juvenile and snarky to point out these numbers on ATRL? 

At the end of the day, I come on ATRL to have a ki and occasionally that means dragging industry plants like Britney every three months or so, not to hold hands with the Britney stans in this thread with two braincells who cant come up with a more original or clever read than "Lol ozempic!!" 

[Richie]

3 hours ago, BionicWooHoo said:

The absolute brains for worms of the Britney stanbase to act like I need to be more kumbayah because I pointed out that Britney does not have the same creative impact on her body of work as Janet when you look at the numbers. In terms of percentage, Janet as 3 times as many songwriting credits on her catalog. How is it juvenile and snarky to point out these numbers on ATRL? 

At the end of the day, I come on ATRL to have a ki and occasionally that means dragging industry plants like Britney every three months or so, not to hold hands with the Britney stans in this thread with two braincells who cant come up with a more original or clever read than "Lol ozempic!!" 

Girlie just stfu and eat your food, no one takes you seriously.

 

You want to talk about industry plants? Because Xtina was actually planted and marketed to be Britney 2.0, but all she could do was play second fiddle and enjoy perhaps a quarter of the success that Britney achieved.

 

 

 

 

 

[PopThatCorn]

I really think Lizzo was not trying to shade Britney, only saying Janet did "it" first. Which is the truth considering Janet is the pioneer for every dance heavy female performer.

 

Janet is the one who really popularized big synchronized dance breaks with an army of dancers. Not to mention chair routines, headset microphones during live performances, removing costumes onstage, athletic movements, always showing toned midriff (Madonna of course was also known for the last few points).

 

If it weren't for Janet's style of performance, choreography and sexuality, Britney the pop star wouldn't exist. There's a reason why Britney cited watching Janet's music video for If (1993) as her earliest inspiration. She was performing Janet songs on Mickey Mouse Club, she had her first kiss to a Janet song, she attended Janet's concerts and when she finally went on her first tour she covered Janet's songs.

 

Janet was the TEMPLATE.

 

A less obvious example is the Oops Tour (2000), Britney performs 3 uptempo choreographed songs wearing a headset and then begins talking to the audience. She sits down to "catch her breath", switches to a handheld microphone, and performs a ballad with her guitarist sitting beside her. Literally identical formula to Janet's iconic Velvet Rope Tour (1998). 

 

No one would say those tours look the same but you cannot deny Britney took many pages from Janet's book while doing her own thing and growing into her own artistry.

 

Remember Janet was also a child/teen star just like Britney was and had a public metamorphosis into womanhood. That's why Britney said she selected Herb Ritts to direct the video for Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know, basically to mark a departure from her previous teen image (the Herb Ritts directed video for Janet's Love Will Never Do marked a new image for Janet).

 

They have a lot of parallels and there's nothing wrong with pointing them out even if Lizzo saying "imitator" sounds dismissive of Britney and her own iconic career. I get why her fans were offended but it just doesn't make sense to me that many Britney fans are now acting like Lizzo's claim was just completely unfounded as if Britney hasn't referenced Janet time and time again.

[Jay07]

5 hours ago, BionicWooHoo said:

The absolute brains for worms of the Britney stanbase to act like I need to be more kumbayah because I pointed out that Britney does not have the same creative impact on her body of work as Janet when you look at the numbers. In terms of percentage, Janet as 3 times as many songwriting credits on her catalog. How is it juvenile and snarky to point out these numbers on ATRL? 

At the end of the day, I come on ATRL to have a ki and occasionally that means dragging industry plants like Britney every three months or so, not to hold hands with the Britney stans in this thread with two braincells who cant come up with a more original or clever read than "Lol ozempic!!" 

Industry plants? Do you know what that phrase means? Britney came from Louisiana, was dirt poor and was working since she was a child to get her success, she didn't have connections. It's like MAGAts calling everything they don't like "DEI" without understanding what that means.

 

Between that and the "doesn't sing the bulk of her songs" claim, that two braincell drag is coming from inside the house.

 

And as people said, aren't you getting a bit old to be this corny? It's been 25 years, let it go.

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[Phaunzie]

 

15 hours ago, Jeremiah said:

Britney's first albums have the Cheiron sound, which Robyn doesn't own and didn't create. "...Baby One More Time", the groundbreaking classic that put Britney in the map, was first pitched as an R&B song for TLC, so nothing close to "based on Robyn". And one main factor that made Britney a megastar is her passion for dancing, something she wanted to showcase and took her label executives by surprise. Paired with her ideas for striking visuals, Britney crafted her own brand and style.

 

 

I wish I could blame this disrespectful attempts to discredit Britney's artistry on ignorance, but plenty of people who has worked with her have expressed how involved and hands-on she is, so I can't help but think you people just hate to give props to a successful woman and to admit she's her own creator.

 

Btw, not even Robyn agrees with you:

 

 

 

Sis, it has been documented that Jive Records wanted to make an American Robyn, who Jive used as the blueprint of Britney's early albums. It is common knowledge and easily researchable. I love Britney but she was Robyn down during her early albums. The dances were Janet coded, like you can't be serious if you think the Janet influence wasn't first thing to come to mind when you look at the BHMOMT MVs. Something that Britney is more than happy let world know about. 

 

Also how is it disrespectful, when it is a fact. Like, Britney has artistry, but her first three albums were crafted after Robyn and Janet. The teen pop/ r&b from Robyn sound & the way it was used definitely can be found in Britney's debut album. Like, Show Me Love has been confused by Britney Army as a Britney Spears song. Even going out of their way to call it a Demo for Britney Spears Also who do you think give Max Martin his first hit in the U.S.A, it was Robyn with Show Me Love which peaked at 14.  Like, Max Martin would be scouted by Jive to produce Baby after Robyn rejected their offer..

[Stellar1103]

Britney is Janet-coded...the end.

[BOOM!]

She sounds super dumb.

[PoisonPill]

16 hours ago, BionicWooHoo said:

I pointed out that Britney does not have the same creative impact on her body of work as Janet when you look at the numbers. In terms of percentage, Janet as 3 times as many songwriting credits on her catalog.
 

Yes... yes! An articulated, reasoned opinion that doesn't devolve into nastiness and middle-school name-calling... Now we're talking! 

 

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The absolute brains for worms of the Britney stanbase to act like I need to be more kumbayah

 

At the end of the day, I come on ATRL to have a ki and occasionally that means dragging industry plants like Britney every three months or so, not to hold hands with the Britney stans in this thread with two braincells who cant come up with a more original or clever read than "Lol ozempic!!" 

No... oh no... We were doing so well! 

[MadOnHer]

On 4/5/2025 at 5:45 PM, Welovetrouble said:

"There were no such things as pop divas before Janet. Janet was first..."  

Wtf did Lizzo say this? I'm screaming if she did lol

 

On 4/5/2025 at 6:48 PM, Jay07 said:

Can you post the full comments? Erasing pop divas before Janet is beyond dumb. Diana Ross, Donna Summer, Cher, Tina Turner. 

 

 

[Démodé]

Could there be a Lizzo-related post without blatant fat-phobia?

[BionicWooHoo]

14 hours ago, Jay07 said:

Industry plants? Do you know what that phrase means? Britney came from Louisiana, was dirt poor and was working since she was a child to get her success, she didn't have connections. It's like MAGAts calling everything they don't like "DEI" without understanding what that means.

 

Between that and the "doesn't sing the bulk of her songs" claim, that two braincell drag is coming from inside the house.

 

And as people said, aren't you getting a bit old to be this corny? It's been 25 years, let it go.

Oh my sweet summer child, do you not understand the difference between nepo baby and industry plant? All nepo babies are industry plants but not all industry plants are nepo babies. There are plenty of people who are dirt poor who can become industry plants. Case in point, Janet Jackson is a nepo baby but not an industry plant. Britney is an industry plant but not a nepo baby. 

And no, she really doesn't sing the bulk of her songs. Myah Marie aside, her vocals are so distorted and autotuned on literally 100% of her tracks at this point, is it even her voice? Not really. Its quite disgusting to compare this fraudulent behavior to be on the level of an actual artist like Janet Jackson tbh. 
 

[Jay07]

Just now, BionicWooHoo said:

Oh my sweet summer child, do you not understand the difference between nepo baby and industry plant? All nepo babies are industry plants but not all industry plants are nepo babies. There are plenty of people who are dirt poor who can become industry plants. Case in point, Janet Jackson is a nepo baby but not an industry plant. Britney is an industry plant but not a nepo baby. 

And no, she really doesn't sing the bulk of her songs. Myah Marie aside, her vocals are so distorted and autotuned on literally 100% of her tracks at this point, is it even her voice? Not really. Its quite disgusting to compare this fraudulent behavior to be on the level of an actual artist like Janet Jackson tbh. 
 

Explain how Britney Spears is an industry plant. I'll wait.

 

Also, having effects on your voice does not mean you're not singing on your own songs. Again, aren't you getting a little old to be this juvenile and obtuse?

[KeirGrey]

1 hour ago, MadOnHer said:

 

 

 

she looks like she's on coke 

[BionicWooHoo]

3 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Explain how Britney Spears is an industry plant. I'll wait.

 

Also, having effects on your voice does not mean you're not singing on your own songs. Again, aren't you getting a little old to be this juvenile and obtuse?

Industry plants are manufactured, meaning they have little to zero creative input into their bodies of work. Their success is not a reflection of their artistic abilities but rather their label successfully marketing a product. This is reflected in the fact that Britney has not produced any of her songs and has only 20% co-writing credits on her songs despite being in the industry for 25+ years. Meanwhile Janet has over 60% co-writing credits, over times the amount that Britney has which is why the comparison is ludicrous and why Britney is an industry plant while Janet is not. Hope that helps!

[Josh]

6 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said:

Industry plants are manufactured, meaning they have little to zero creative input into their bodies of work. Their success is not a reflection of their artistic abilities but rather their label successfully marketing a product. This is reflected in the fact that Britney has not produced any of her songs and has only 20% co-writing credits on her songs despite being in the industry for 25+ years. Meanwhile Janet has over 60% co-writing credits, over times the amount that Britney has which is why the comparison is ludicrous and why Britney is an industry plant while Janet is not. Hope that helps!

at least Britney is in the industry on her own talent and not because of her family connections

[Jay07]

18 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said:

Industry plants are manufactured, meaning they have little to zero creative input into their bodies of work. Their success is not a reflection of their artistic abilities but rather their label successfully marketing a product. This is reflected in the fact that Britney has not produced any of her songs and has only 20% co-writing credits on her songs despite being in the industry for 25+ years. Meanwhile Janet has over 60% co-writing credits, over times the amount that Britney has which is why the comparison is ludicrous and why Britney is an industry plant while Janet is not. Hope that helps!

Interesting.

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An 'industry plant' is largely accepted to mean an artist who presents themselves as being independent and doing things on their own terms, but secretly has the industry backing and money to fund them and to artificially shape such a narrative

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.loudandquiet.com/short/just-what-is-an-industry-plant-anyway/amp/

 

Literally the first result on Google. I can't believe I have to endure refreshing this decrepit website to entertain the delusions of someone trying to cope with accusations that only make sense in their heads. Britney doesn't write her own songs because she only writes 20% and not 60% and she doesn't sing on her own songs because she uses stylistic effects. Jesus, the second hand embarrasment. 

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[BionicWooHoo]

11 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Interesting.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.loudandquiet.com/short/just-what-is-an-industry-plant-anyway/amp/

 

Literally the first result on Google. I can't believe I have to endure refreshing this decrepit website to entertain the delusions of someone trying to cope with accusations that only make sense in their heads. Britney doesn't write her own songs because she only writes 20% and not 60% and she doesn't sing on her own songs because she uses stylistic effects. Jesus, the second hand embarrasment. 

Lmaooo downplaying having your album be 95% machine-made and your vocals being completely vocally distinct from your actual voice as "stylistic effects" 
Also what? Who's forcing you to reply to me? You literally replied to me first YET AGAIN. 

[Jay07]

3 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said:

Lmaooo downplaying having your album be 95% machine-made and your vocals being completely vocally distinct from your actual voice as "stylistic effects" 
Also what? Who's forcing you to reply to me? You literally replied to me first YET AGAIN. 

I see we conveniently moved on from the industry plant thing.

 

95% machine made? Literally what? I guess they had invented AI back in 2000 huh?

 

Delusional. It's been 25 years, stop embarrassing yourself. 

[Monkey_Juice]

Let's not do this

 

Out of all the girlies, Britney is the only one who shows Janet real love! 

 

Britney paved her lane while being inspired by the greats before her. 

 

She's an icon in her own right.