base talk Can Gaga outdo Beychella?

[Pinkbutterflies]

Ga can sit down with a piano or do it with a real band. She can also hire 300 dancers and have millions of stage light effects to enhance her performance. She is more versatile.

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

Beyoncé and Gaga are different kind of performers. Beyoncé is perfect on stage - looks perfect, sounds perfect, moves perfectly. Gaga is more raw and theatrical (she is also a great actress for a reason). Obviously she won't outdo Beyoncé by Beyoncé standarts, but she can put on an equally incredible show, for different reasons, if she leans into her strenghts.

Regardless, she doesn't even have to come close to Beychella for it to be an outstanding show anyway.

[Chris]

*yawns*

[beyonceparkwood]

7 hours ago, Aden said:

Her SNL performance was actually good but for comparison's sake, her dancing like a sprayed roach on SNL during the Joanne era was more inventive than Beyonce recycling a leotard performance with *strong* *empowered* *women* dancers for the millionth time. 

I meant her recent SNL performance. The 'leotard' drag is so annoying and dense lol. Makes me think you're a fossil.

[wesleywalrus]

Beychella was BORING as **** and terrible to sit through. SORRY it must be said. I'd love to see a new performance with the new trilogy though. 

[longjohn9898]

10 hours ago, beyonceparkwood said:

I don't know why someone would ruin it for themselves by expecting a Beychella anytime. No one in the music industry can pull a Beychella.

Bey can't pull a Gagachella either to be fair but let's see what happens. I'll be there next weekend and let you know 

[swiftawaywithme]

7 hours ago, Triton said:

Why can't others do it then? 

 

5 hours ago, yonsé said:

if ANYONE could do it, why hasn't anyone else done it? 

Because no one is as obsessed with creating a superficial image as Bey is. The GP has no idea what a Beychella is, and they don't care either--they see right through the smoke and mirrors. On the other hand, Gags and Taylor are beloved because their pure talent and artistry speak for them. They don't need 40+ writers, PR machines, and Jay-Z dollars. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

3 minutes ago, swiftawaywithme said:

 

Because no one is as obsessed with creating a superficial image as Bey is. The GP has no idea what a Beychella is, and they don't care either--they see right through the smoke and mirrors. On the other hand, Gags and Taylor are beloved because their pure talent and artistry speak for them. They don't need 40+ writers, PR machines, and Jay-Z dollars. 

Honey, thr beautiful thing about life is:

Taylor can have ALL the records, ALL the sales, you name it.

But one thing it does not give her: talent and performance ability.

And its beautiful.

It gives me peace knowing shed absolutely get devoured by Bey, Gaga, Pink, Kelly Clarkson and any other truly talented performer/singer the moment theyd share the stage together. Its that one thing shell always suck at  

And no matter the streams or sales, nothing will and can change that

Edited Thursday at 06:00 AM by Kristie Kuwa

[swiftawaywithme]

13 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

It gives me peace knowing shed absolutely get devoured by Bey, Gaga, Pink, Kelly Clarkson and any other truly talented performer/singer the moment theyd share the stage together. Its that one thing shell always suck at  

[Ubermensch]

Gaga hasn't spent more than a couple weeks putting together a live show since the super bowl. Before that it was the born this way ball. She's one of the greatest performers in pop music history and her band is world class and like always, I expect that will be the focus. I think she's planning some gags but I doubt she's been secretly cooking up an exclusive one time only show for months.

Edited Thursday at 06:25 AM by Ubermensch

[Ubermensch]

27 minutes ago, swiftawaywithme said:

 

Because no one is as obsessed with creating a superficial image as Bey is. The GP has no idea what a Beychella is, and they don't care either--they see right through the smoke and mirrors. On the other hand, Gags and Taylor are beloved because their pure talent and artistry speak for them. They don't need 40+ writers, PR machines, and Jay-Z dollars. 

Not even you believe that Taylor is more talented than Beyonce. Please.

[Jay07]

2 hours ago, beyonceparkwood said:

I meant her recent SNL performance. The 'leotard' drag is so annoying and dense lol. Makes me think you're a fossil.

Ironically, she wasn't even wearing a leotard during her Coachella performance so you know we're not dealing with a full deck here.

 

Look, there's so many excuses on the wheel here. Beyonce has PR, she wears a leotard, she has too many "empowered" dancers (?), too many lights (lmao). The bottom line is they know she can't do it, physically or conceptually and are already scrambling to make more excuses. It's sad and a little funny but par for the course. 

[John Slayne]

depends on what you'd consider 'outdo' Beyonce, Gaga won't outdance her and it probably won't be as viral as Beychella either

 

however, Gaga is a very strong performer herself with a catalogue of known quality hits, that's why she was booked in the first place so it'll be a great show regardless

[kimberly]

Gaga is a fun performer but no one will ever outdo Beychella, especially with the way Coachella has gone downhill post-covid.

 

Beychella came at a perfect time — Bey's comeback performance, Coachella's peak in terms of relevance, livestreamed festival performances were a novelty... it all lined up perfectly to make it a historic night for one of the best performers to ever do it.

[Calvin]

1 hour ago, Ubermensch said:

Not even you believe that Taylor is more talented than Beyonce. Please.

Lock them in a room with pen, paper and music instruments. See who comes up with a better song/album? 
 

[Ubermensch]

5 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Lock them in a room with pen, paper and music instruments. See who comes up with a better song/album? 
 

Beyonce has solo penned hits from DC days. Taylor still can't sing or dance. Considering they're both supposed to be SINGERS and not songwriters for hire this is a piss poor argument anyway. 

 

Taylor's self-imposed stagnation as an artist because of ego about album credits isn't a flex. Everybody outside of your base has stopped taking her endlessly rehashed music seriously.

Edited Thursday at 08:09 AM by Ubermensch

[MonsterNavy]

she's not gonna do all the stuff beyoncé did for beychella. she's going to make her own show so no

 

she can make an equally great show as beychella though that's for sure

[Calvin]

4 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Beyonce has solo penned hits from DC days. Taylor still can't sing or dance. Considering they're both supposed to be SINGERS and not songwriters for hire this is a piss poor argument anyway. 

They are both musicians. Only One can create music, other has a rich history of adding her name to songs credits with zero contribution. 

[Calvin]

Gaga can simply perform on piano and that will still be better than 300 dancers show off. 

[Mr. Duff]

They are both great performers. Don't think "outdoing" is the right term because both their Coachella performances can co-exist and be enjoyed by the GP, but Gaga can definitely put on a grand set for sure.

[Archetype]

Putting the performance styles of these two in a competition is stupid.  They're so different, their catalogues are so different, they have different goals, etc.  For Gaga fans, this will be better than Bey's Coachella set for sure, but it probably won't be the same for Bey fans.  It's not that serious.  

[Ubermensch]

5 minutes ago, Calvin said:

They are both musicians. Only One can create music, other has a rich history of adding her name to songs credits with zero contribution. 

I listen to albums and watch performances. I understand that the default mode of music consumption for Swifties is looking at chart numbers and scouring album credits for easter eggs to convince yourselves that she's secretly a lesbian, but this is actually not normal. 

 

The fact that this is a thread about festival sets and all you can come up with is 20 years past their expiration date writing credit drags says it all. 

Edited Thursday at 08:15 AM by Ubermensch

[Calvin]

4 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

I understand that the default mode of music consumption for Swifties is looking at chart numbers and scouring album credits for easter eggs to convince yourselves that she's secretly a lesbian, but this is actually not normal. 

[Ubermensch]

1 minute ago, Calvin said:

Yes you finally realized what you were doing here by bringing up writing credits in a thread about a festival that will NEVER even attempt to book Taylor Swift because she's genuinely dreadful on stage without the assistance of a billion dollar custom made production.

[ScorpiosGroove]

no lol, nobody can. that festival peaked with beyoncé and should've ended after her. it felt like a complete non event ever since and no headliner since has made any significant noise (last year's edition being the lowest selling one in their history )

 

gaga can still put on a great show, as long as it's none of her enigma mess or as lazily thrown together as the first one she'll do great