eleganceislearned Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aston Martin said: I don't think they'll give her the Vanguard this year since she'll be in Toronto on the day they're going on. Everyone who's gotten the vanguard since the early 2010s has been there in person. This lowkey pisses me off. I'd love to see her perform some Mayhem tracks, as I think those tracks would compliment The Fame and The Fame Monster SO much if done in a medley. Huge missed opportunity for a great televised performance. She should do it while she can still dance good, and before MTV goes off the air. Edited March 29 by eleganceislearned
Sombre Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Whether she deserves or not this year doesn't matter, seeing that she booked a concert on the same day the VMAs are being held lmao.
ericcartman Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I guess her album campaigns never really coincided with the VMA? Also why didn't they just give it to her that one year instead of that made up triton award? Did they offer her, but she turned it down and wanted her own award or something? If she is touring that day, she can always pull a Chappell and reschedule
KatyPrismSpirit Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, ericcartman said: I guess her album campaigns never really coincided with the VMA? Also why didn't they just give it to her that one year instead of that made up triton award? Did they offer her, but she turned it down and wanted her own award or something? If she is touring that day, she can always pull a Chappell and reschedule or she can pull a bad bunny and live broadcast part of her tour performance as a vma's "medley"
Jay07 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Not sure why the elitist attitude about these "made up" awards for "hasbeens" when she had her own made up award in 2020. Is it because they made up a special one for her? Cool. 2 2
Punky Rooster Posted March 29 Posted March 29 No, but there's no one really left to give it to is there? Bjork deserves but she doesn't do awards. 1
Jay07 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said: No, but there's no one really left to give it to is there? Bjork deserves but she doesn't do awards. Imagine giving it to Bjork after Katy Perry ahsjdhahghfk. 1
prézli Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said: No, but there's no one really left to give it to is there? EDIT: nvm, she won it. Edited March 29 by prézli
dopamina Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, simplywohoo said: to me these made up awares always seem a little bit like a gift out of pity. Same goes for that honorary Oscar Angela Bassett got. To me it feels like "you're not good enough for the real thing but here you have something you fan play at home with so shut up". They created this award in 2020 to escape the controversies involving Michael Jackson's name at that time, a documentary was coming out about him and his past victims. So MTV created this award for Gaga and for the first time in 8 years they did not present Vanguard and not even the following year 1
Achilles. Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, simplywohoo said: to me these made up awares always seem a little bit like a gift out of pity. Same goes for that honorary Oscar Angela Bassett got. To me it feels like "you're not good enough for the real thing but here you have something you fan play at home with so shut up". The Honorary Oscar is not remotely comparable to these paid awards and honors. It's a legitimate honor that has existed for the Academy's entire 97 year history and is usually awarded to extremely influential and iconic talents who made a lasting impact on film. Some recipients had previously won a competitive Oscar, such as James Stewart, Sidney Poitier, Hayao Miyazaki, and Sophia Loren and a few went on to win a competitive Oscar after winning their honorary one, including Paul Newman and Spike Lee. But the majority of the time, it goes to enduring and impactful talents who were overlooked by the Academy in their careers, such as Peter O'Toole, Jean Luc Godard, Barbara Stanwyck, James Earl Jones, Debbie Reynolds, Robert Altman. There's no shame or diminishment of a person's talent or achievements in being honored this way. Spoiler Angela received hers prematurely I fear. People shouldn't be eligible for the honorary within 5 years of their most recent nomination. Edited March 29 by Achilles. 2
Into The Void Posted March 29 Posted March 29 She may next year since as people said she has a tour date on the day of awards
Achilles. Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) They'll never do it because America but nobody deserves it more than Kylie. And since she's touring the states this year, it's probably the best chance they'll ever have to do the right thing here. Edited March 29 by Achilles.
ScorpiosGroove Posted March 29 Posted March 29 she obviously does but who cares about anything vma related in this day and age ? that award has exclusively gone to flops, fads or legacy acts, the last truly important/deserving artist to get it was bey in 2014 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: she obviously does but who cares about anything vma related in this day and age ? that award has exclusively gone to flops, fads or legacy acts, the last truly important/deserving artist to get it was bey in 2014 Shakira won it in 2023… and thats a legend. Is she a fad and not deserving too?
sunbathinganimal Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, ericcartman said: I guess her album campaigns never really coincided with the VMA? Also why didn't they just give it to her that one year instead of that made up triton award? Did they offer her, but she turned it down and wanted her own award or something? it was quite soon after Leaving Neverland premiered I think they didn't want the MJ association
ScorpiosGroove Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said: Shakira won it in 2023… and thats a legend. Is she a fad and not deserving too?
Eternal220 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: she obviously does but who cares about anything vma related in this day and age ? that award has exclusively gone to flops, fads or legacy acts, the last truly important/deserving artist to get it was bey in 2014 Rihanna won in 2016 and Shakira in 2023. I'd say they are just as deserving.
MAKSIM Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Like others have said, does she deserve it? Yes. Will she get it this year? No. She's arguably had the two most successful music videos for a western act this past year. DWAS will hit 1 billion and Abracadabra will hit 100 million views this week. The only people who have kept up with multiple successful MVs this past year is probably Sabrina and Billie? And it is too early in their career for a "legacy" award like Vanguard. 1
Infernal Paradise Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I'm fairly certain the VMAs have tried to court her for years now but she kept declining to accept it at some later point in her career for whatever reasons Does she deserve it? Undeniably so, she's far more deserving than some of the recipients before her. Does she care? I don't think so, the VMAs have been pretty irrelevant for about a decade now. It would be cool to see her visual legacy be celebrated with a 10 minute+ medley but other than that, I don't see the point. Besides, the Tricon Award, despite not being an exact replacement, is further testament of her pioneering cross-media influence and the singular place that she holds within the modern entertainment industry. 1
dman4life Posted March 29 Posted March 29 She's long deserved it but it honestly lost it's prestige after the likes of Jennifer Lopez and Katy Perry having won it. Even Nicki felt kinda questionable.
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