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Born This Way and Joanne vs. Cowboy Carter and Renaissance


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  1. 1. Better album combo?

    • Born This Way and Joanne
    • Renaissance and Cowboy Carter


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Beyoncé, sweetie…

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BTW is the album I go back to the most. But Bey's combo feels more solid and way less over the place/chaotic. I abstain from voting this time. 

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1 hour ago, dumbsparce said:

Imagine genuinely enjoying anything Beyonce has ever put out more than BTW. :bibliahh: Liddos are a mess sure but they don't deserve to be gaslighted like that.

I don't have to imagine. BTW is lowkey an incredibly overrated, painfully mediocre album that screams dated from start to finish. Some gays overhype it because they refuse to let go of nostalgia.

 

It's nowhere near the same level as Renaissance or CC :foxaylove2:

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Renaissance alone devours gag discography 

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Renaissance clears and eats every and any part of Gaga's discography. 
 

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Renaissance alone clears I'm afraid

 

But BTW is a lovely album :clap3: 

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Heavy Metal Lover clears all three albums

 

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BTW and Ren are top mfn tier, but CC is just much better than Joanne (that halftime ate) so yea… we need Gaga to compliment act 3 (or vice versa) in the best way possible tbh! 

 

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BTW is Gaga's best album but it's still loud, overproduced and occasionally cringy. Cowboy Carter is bloated and meandering but the creativity and genre bending remains exquisite so those two are about even for me. It's that Rennaisance is a masterpiece and Joanne a failure that clinches this choice.

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BTW on its own definitely topples Beyoncé's latest efforts for me, and Joanne is a pretty decent album (bar a couple songs like Million Reasons and the bonus tracks).

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Renaissance clears anything Gaga has ever released. It's not close.

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Unfortunately for Gaga, Renaissance is too groundbreaking for anything in her discography to even compete

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4 minutes ago, BlackoutZone said:

Unfortunately for Gaga, Renaissance is too groundbreaking for anything in her discography to even compete

What was groundbreaking about Renaissance? 

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6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

What was groundbreaking about Renaissance? 

The flawless execution of every single layer that made this masterpiece come together. She managed to convey joy, power, confidence and pride in a way that genuinely feels so thrilling and entertaining no other pop girl has before. However this might be affected strongly by the fact I've seen the album live 3 times and it was also easily the most insane concert experience I've ever seen 

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Not Beyoncé winning a poll created by a Liddo to drag her 

 

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1 minute ago, Hey Babes said:

Not Beyoncé winning a poll created by a Liddo to drag her 

 

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You know how utterly disliked Joanne is on here when Gaga loses an atrl poll by that much lol 

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Is this a backfire or what? 
 

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gaga wins for bad kids and yoü & i alone

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2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

What was groundbreaking about Renaissance? 

Taking genres that Black creatives and divas originated decades ago like house and disco and fusing them with soul, gospel and R&B to not only make them fit Beyonce but make them current,  fresh and exciting. And doing it with production that was complex with immaculate attention to detail.

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6 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Taking genres that Beyonce and black vocalists hadn't tackled in decades like house and disco and fusing them with soul, gospel and R&B to not only make them fit Beyonce but make them current,  fresh and exciting. And doing it with production that was complex with immaculate attention to detail.

I mean… weren't most songs sampling past black artists, and some songs being almost straight up covers, or sampling songs without permission? Big Freedia already collabed with a bunch of pop girls atp. 

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Should have added also side projects to the movies

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The Gift > Harlequin 

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24 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

I mean… weren't most songs sampling past black artists, and some songs being almost straight up covers, or sampling songs without permission? Big Freedia already collabed with a bunch of pop girls atp. 

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I love Born Like That and Cowboy Carter

 

and I don't quite love the other two as much lol! idk I can't really pick between those two options :ryan2:

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43 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

I mean… weren't most songs sampling past black artists, and some songs being almost straight up covers, or sampling songs without permission? Big Freedia already collabed with a bunch of pop girls atp. 

What does that have to do with what I said? A song that uses a sample can't be fresh and innovative? If anything, integrating a sample actually shows how meticulous and layered the production was. Are you aware of like, the entire history of hip hop and R&B for the past 30 years? What a boomer'd take.

 

As for "sampling without permission" it's simply not true. The Milkshake sample was credited properly and Kelis' issue was with Pharrell and not Beyonce. If anything, Beyonce is fastidious about credits, leading to the ignorant "100 writers on a song" OBH talking point. Finally, I can't think of a song that was a "straight up cover" other than the homage to the iconic I Feel Love bassline which was clearly a nod to a Black disco legend and certainly did not make the song a cover. Maybe you should listen again or stop spreading misinformation. 

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Born This Way > Ren > CC > Joanne

 

But Bey wins overall because Joanne was that bad. 

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