base talk Why is Gaga's acting success diminished so much on ATRL?

[GraceRandolph]

5 hours ago, narid said:

Oh, but you do care! And by you I mean the fanbase.

 

Liddos get triggered at the most basic dig when they are absolutely vile towards others artists and fans. 

 

The truth is Gaga is no Nicole Kidman, no Meryl Streep, not even a Jennifer Lawrence kind of Actress. She has a couple of movies to her name. She goes for Oscar bait movies and never takes any risks, because she cares too much about awards and validation (just like her fans). 

How was signing onto a movie with a first time director (Cooper) not a risk? Joker 2 being a musical was literally a risk that didn't pay off. Not sure what "risks" yall want her to take but she has turned down commercial roles (Clea in the MCU) for R rated adult dramas. 

Edited Monday at 10:12 PM by GraceRandolph

[Giorgoc]

4 hours ago, manuelalex9810 said:

Cannot read all that, Lady GaGa is not a good actress. 

Fixed it for you.

[Filthy Pop]

6 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

The irony chile. You are aware that almost half of the gross goes to the cinemas so if it did 150m, around 70mil went to the cinemas, 75m is the budget, where's the dosens of millions that, went into salaries, advertising and promo? 

 

It lost money. 

-Cast salaries are usually included into overall budget

-Advertising and Promo was very minimal at that time for obvious reasons

-There's literally no way for us to know if it made money or not. But considering the fact that marketing was pretty modestand (again) we're not taking into account streaming, home media, merch, etc. it is completely plausible that it AT LEAST broke even.

 

Also

Forbes predicted that the film would become "by far, the most 'successful' adult-skewing non-action drama of the so-called pandemic era." 

[IlianVargas]

Because OGHs are pathetic and jealous 

[babyforlife]

jealousy and insecurity (that their fave would never achieve what gaga has achieved)

 

 

 

 

 

[Jessie]

17 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

what acting success she has one hit movie

Name another Hollywood actress who has led an R rated drama, crime movie or biopic to over $150m at the Box Office in the last 5 years?

[PrettyHurts]

probably because, despite her doing her best in them, her last two films were major disappointments in comparison to ASIB....

[Namie-Knowles]

15 hours ago, edutada said:

Poor Lady Gaga!

You should ask why little monsters always wants to drag others artists instead.

 

Putting them down in every single achiviement like it's nothing, like coming for Beyonce in the past saying that she didn't get a solo hit during DIL/Perfect Duet

 

Is funny that right now Lady Gaga is the only who only gets #1 with collabs.

 

Honestly **** this let's lash these mfs who got the forum closed for a day cause their extreme racism. So many of the people kii'ing at the Bey drags were the same one calling her a monkey on the old forums. Nasty 

[CherryBay]

that's where she lost my interest in her acting … 

 

AHS she was alright 

ASIB she was mid playing something that I saw before by real actors just with a modern twist

 

but this above killed everything for me 

Italian sounding like Russian ma'am (if you know what i mean) 

 

there is nothing to diminish she is a bad actress and she should stick to the music as long she releases quality again and no collabs

 

[longjohn9898]

19 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Gaga won for a TV role, and some of the most prestigious actors do TV nowadays. Funny how Madonna fans bring up Madonna possibly being sixth in the Oscar race for Evita as some great achievement when Gaga being sixth in the Oscar race for House of Gucci was looked at as a disgrace and embarrassment. An Oscar NOMINATION for acting is far more prestigious than Madge's GG win anyway. 

End it 

 

People love to hate on Gaga because she's an easy target—she's brash, different, and constantly not fitting into the mold of what people want from her or what people think of her. She's an artist first and foremost, but her acting wins and nominations across multiple films/shows speaks her cornucopia of talents that span film and music. The goalposts are constantly being moved—if she is nominated well she didn't WIN, if she won a GG well she didn't win the Oscar—how many amazing actresses can say they've even been nominated for an Oscar let alone won? How many music superstars? Gaga is immensely talented in both acting and singing and her success will continue to make her haters seethe. 

[Blade Runner]

Jealousy. 

[longjohn9898]

19 hours ago, Jay07 said:

In this case, successful doesn't necessarily mean financially but artistically. Her role in AHS won a Golden Globe and her roles in ASIB and Gucci won multiple awards. Even her part in Joker was praised. Like you can't make people believe Gaga isn't a respected actress no matter how hard you gaslight, especially since you can't come up with any real panned reviews for her.

Exactly. Nothing more needs to be said

[Eternium]

She's genuinely a terrible actress. If she had debuted as an actress and not had a storied music career with the connections she had before acting, she would not have even landed any of these roles.

 

As far as success goes, ASIB was her only successful project, but even that was a remake of a standard that had already smashed twice. 
 

The difference between Ariana's and Gaga's careers is that Ariana gave one of the best acting performances by a pop girl ever whereas Gaga was mediocre, just like the average pop girl actress. And the difference in success shows it all.

[SlimyGhoul]

because she is not a good actress. 

[longjohn9898]

6 hours ago, Eternium said:

She's genuinely a terrible actress. If she had debuted as an actress and not had a storied music career with the connections she had before acting, she would not have even landed any of these roles.

 

As far as success goes, ASIB was her only successful project, but even that was a remake of a standard that had already smashed twice. 
 

The difference between Ariana's and Gaga's careers is that Ariana gave one of the best acting performances by a pop girl ever whereas Gaga was mediocre, just like the average pop girl actress. And the difference in success shows it all.

Gaga has been praised in literally every role she has played and has been nominated and/or won awards for almost all of them. The success of the film at the box office is irrelevant to the quality of Gaga as an actress. She was cited as the only bright spot in House of Gucci and Joker 2 in many reviews. Just because she's connected well to others by way of having one of the biggest music careers of all time doesn't diminish her talents as an actress. How many actresses, let alone pop stars, in general can claim to have an Oscar nomination for acting? She's also had wins including a Golden Globe, Critics Choice, National Board of Review for Best Actress, and New York Film Critics Circle Award among many others for her roles in A Star Is Born, House of Gucci, and AHS. 
 

To claim she's a "terrible" actress is delusional when she's been objectively reviewed and celebrated as at the very least, a good actress, with many wins and nominations to her name. 

[Eternal220]

we were told she is a Butts in seats movie star but she's only had 1 successful movie?! her success is always overrated both in music and acting 

[applestar]

[plays HoG coffee scene and the entirety of Joker 2.mov] 

[Eternium]

7 hours ago, longjohn9898 said:

Gaga has been praised in literally every role she has played and has been nominated and/or won awards for almost all of them. The success of the film at the box office is irrelevant to the quality of Gaga as an actress. She was cited as the only bright spot in House of Gucci and Joker 2 in many reviews. Just because she's connected well to others by way of having one of the biggest music careers of all time doesn't diminish her talents as an actress. How many actresses, let alone pop stars, in general can claim to have an Oscar nomination for acting? She's also had wins including a Golden Globe, Critics Choice, National Board of Review for Best Actress, and New York Film Critics Circle Award among many others for her roles in A Star Is Born, House of Gucci, and AHS. 
 

To claim she's a "terrible" actress is delusional when she's been objectively reviewed and celebrated as at the very least, a good actress, with many wins and nominations to her name. 

Receiving praise from a publication does not mean something is good. Emilia Perez just swept the Golden Globes and it is laughably bad and highly offensive. 
 

Lady Gaga is a terrible actress. Her acting career is successful and received the attention it did because she is an excellent pop star, not because she is a good actress. I enjoy that she gets placed in campy roles, but she doesn't pull them off and they aren't remotely believable. Good for her if she enjoys doing it, but the people clearly want her in pop music, instead.

[longjohn9898]

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Receiving praise from a publication does not mean something is good. Emilia Perez just swept the Golden Globes and it is laughably bad and highly offensive. 
 

Lady Gaga is a terrible actress. Her acting career is successful and received the attention it did because she is an excellent pop star, not because she is a good actress. I enjoy that she gets placed in campy roles, but she doesn't pull them off and they aren't remotely believable. Good for her if she enjoys doing it, but the people clearly want her in pop music, instead.

"A publication" I literally listed multiple awards and nominations and you chose to ignore them. if you want her in pop music, then I understand since she's an amazing pop artist and you're clearly invested in her career, but she remains a great actress and you are clearly in the minority when you make delusional statements claiming Gaga is a "terrible actress." Perhaps consider you might just be terribly informed instead 

[hawx23]

 

On 1/6/2025 at 2:10 PM, MESSIAH13 said:

Because she is not a good actress and only had one successful movie?!

 

 

These OGH threads are getting pathetic and tiresome. 
 

Please let identify any pop star since Cher or Streisand, like almost half a century ago, to become nominated for a Best Actress Oscar.
 

So stupid. Try gaslighting harder.  

[hawx23]

Alongside the Oscar nom, please let us know any other pop star who's done this. 
 

A Star Is Born (2018):

Academy Awards (Oscars):

• Nominee: Best Actress (2019)

Golden Globe Awards:

• Nominee: Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama (2019)

Screen Actors Guild Awards:

• Nominee: Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role (2019)

• Nominee: Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture (2019)

BAFTA Awards:

• Nominee: Best Leading Actress (2019)

Critics' Choice Awards:

• Winner: Best Actress (2019)

MTV Movie & TV Awards:

• Winner: Best Performance in a Movie (2019)

National Board of Review:

• Winner: Best Actress (2018)

San Francisco Film Critics Circle:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2018)

Chicago Film Critics Association Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2018)

• Nominee: Most Promising Performer (2018)

Dallas–Fort Worth Film Critics Association Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2018) – 2nd place

Online Film Critics Society Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2019)

Phoenix Film Critics Society Awards:

• Winner: Best Actress in a Leading Role (2018)

San Diego Film Critics Society Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2018)

Southeastern Film Critics Association Awards:

Nominee: Best Actress (2018)

Teen Choice Awards:

• Nominee: Choice Drama Movie Actress (2019)

Nominee: Choice Movie Ship (with Bradley Cooper) (2019)

 

House of Gucci (2021):

Golden Globe Awards:

• Nominee: Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama (2022)

Screen Actors Guild Awards:

• Nominee: Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role (2022)

• Nominee: Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture (2022)

BAFTA Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress in a Leading Role (2022)

Critics' Choice Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2022)

New York Film Critics Circle:

• Winner: Best Actress (2021)

Hollywood Critics Association:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2022)

Satellite Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress in a Motion Picture, Drama (2022)

Dallas–Fort Worth Film Critics Association Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2021) – 4th place

Florida Film Critics Circle Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2021)

MTV Movie & TV Awards:

• Nominee: Best Performance in a Movie (2022)

Phoenix Film Critics Society Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress in a Leading Role (2021)

Seattle Film Critics Society Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2022)

St. Louis Film Critics Association Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2021)

Washington D.C. Area Film Critics Association Awards:

• Nominee: Best Actress (2021)

Edited 12 hours ago by hawx23

[hawx23]

19 hours ago, Eternium said:

She's genuinely a terrible actress. If she had debuted as an actress and not had a storied music career with the connections she had before acting, she would not have even landed any of these roles.

 

As far as success goes, ASIB was her only successful project, but even that was a remake of a standard that had already smashed twice. 
 

The difference between Ariana's and Gaga's careers is that Ariana gave one of the best acting performances by a pop girl ever whereas Gaga was mediocre, just like the average pop girl actress. And the difference in success shows it all.

I love Ari but if you've ever seen the musical she basically just copied Kristin Chenoweth, including her voice. 

[Jay07]

19 hours ago, Eternium said:

She's genuinely a terrible actress. If she had debuted as an actress and not had a storied music career with the connections she had before acting, she would not have even landed any of these roles.

 

As far as success goes, ASIB was her only successful project, but even that was a remake of a standard that had already smashed twice. 
 

The difference between Ariana's and Gaga's careers is that Ariana gave one of the best acting performances by a pop girl ever whereas Gaga was mediocre, just like the average pop girl actress. And the difference in success shows it all.

One of the best performances ever for a musical comedy where she couldn't even get the Golden Globe whereas Gaga has won multiple awards for each of her performances, including for the much maligned Joker 2? And why did Gaga get attention for being a popstar and not Ariana who is also a popstar? You are literallly contradicting yourself with every sentence.

[eclipsed]

Who cares atrl diminishes anything they don't like plain and simple. Shes obviously a fantastic actress and the best among the pop girls until proven otherwise.

 

I love Gaga, Ari and Selena so trying to remove bias. 

 

Selena is bad in Only Murders. She brings life to the show similarly to what Mandy Moore brought to This Is Us I feel the same way about Selena with Only Murders but Mandy's acting far surpasses anything Selena has ever done. Obviously its different because ones a comedy and ones a drama but Selena's line delivery just isn't good. I mean they've even written into the show how bored and disinterested she is, even commenting on her voice - if thats supposed to be her character then ok? But it isn't good. Emilia Perez I know some people are clowning her and I see why in some parts but then in other parts she is doing a fine job. She still has a long way to go imo.

 

Ari was fantastic in Wicked she held her own against Cynthia and they balanced one another so beautifully. An Oscar nom would be so deserved. Galinda isn't that much of a stretch for Ari but still she crushed it. Scream Queens/Don't Look Up cameos are supposed to be camp/cringe so I'm just gonna look the other way there. Idk if being a dramatic actor needs to be the tell of a good actress, we kinda view it that way with award shows and critics in general so I would kinda need to see more from Ari to see if she has the range.

 

Gaga of the 3 has had the biggest opportunities to prove herself and has risen to the occasion everytime. Personally I think she was a bit hit and miss in AHS, but it worked for a show like AHS and you could see her improving throughout. There was no denying The Countess commanded the screen. Roanoke was a small role but she was great. And then that brought her to ASIB the acting that role required can not be overlooked she was truly a revelation in that role. HOG she gave drama, she gave high camp, she gave not only what a fantastic actor would give but also again a commanding presence which was what carried that film. She outshined lifelong actors. As for JFAD her acting was that of a seasoned actor, not a single note. It was nuanced and she matched Joaquin Phoenix which tells you everything. I've yet to see any of the pop girls pull off the transformative roles or give the level of acting required from these Gaga roles thus making her the clear winner.

[burninredhot]

It's only exaggerated on here actually. Ask a normal film fan who the biggest or best actresses from this generation are.. no one would say Gaga