base talk Taylor is the only MPG that could release a modern Ray of Light & you will deal

[Digitalism]

Poor girl is waiting for ROL and will get an even more washed out version of TTPD 

[Nico Robin]

Addison Rae sweetie…

 

 

[TaggedGalaxy]

It's true and you should say it

[Bimbo]

21 minutes ago, Le Grande said:

When she reaches her 60s I guess she'll mentally reach her 30s so maybe then. 

[Shimenawa]

As if she could pull off a Frozen lol she lacks the depth, maturity and artistry. It's all about numbers, money and attention with this one. She will keep making nursery rhymes for teen girls

 

Edited Friday at 12:19 PM by Shimenawa

[Witnessed ET]

She can never pull it off lol. 

[Zaram]

56 minutes ago, Le Grande said:

When she reaches her 60s I guess she'll mentally reach her 30s so maybe then. 

This is such a good drag

[edutada]

The last time she tried some EDM type of songs she released that eletronic fart called REPUTATION

[The7thStranger]

Taylor is, without a doubt, the closest we've had to a new Madonna in the way that she bends the music industry to her whim.

 

Creatively... I dunno. Taylor has yet to prove that she can truly think outside the box when it comes to the content that she creates. Her songs come across as very juvenile, something Madonna's albums stopped being by the end of the 1980s. As far as we know, Taylor has yet to face any serious adversity that would push her to grow up and push beyond the box of love/break-up song.

 

For Taylor to give us Ray of Light, she would have to give us Bedtime Stories or Erotica or Like a Prayer first.

 

There was something in the water with the MPGs in the late-1990s, and I don't forsee Taylor giving us a Ray of Light, Impossible Princess, Butterfly, or Velvet Rope. I'd love for her to prove me wrong though.

[alfonso12]

That's unlikely considering the production of her music is safe af. 

[tost1]

I will not deal!

[LittleStarmen]

She has not even reached MDNA tbqh

[Shimenawa]

Honestly I think Billie is the one who could pull it off. She has the talent and is not afraid to take risks musically. But she is too young now

[BlahBlahBlah]

[Sawk]

People really doubt Taylor's artistry after she dropped the sister albums in 2020? 
 

You people are fools, Taylor Swift most definitely can create a Ray of Light-esque album that deals with (potential) motherhood and religious reinvention. 
 

She wants money at the moment, she's in her Greedy.mp3 capitalist phase of her career. She knows she can get away with releasing trash like what's found on TTPD because her quasi parasocial fanbase is obsessed with decoding puzzles and knowing any detail about her personal life. 
 

That being said, she's proven time and time again that when it comes down to it, she can write a f*cking great song. To blindly ignore her lyrical prowess and melodic sensibilities because of a lack of vocal technique is foolish as Madonna was never considered a powerhouse vocalist during her own peaks. 
 

Hate on blondie all you want, but she has the capacity to develop a record of that caliber. 

[Mr.X]

Taylor alread tried it with Folklore which is more singer-song-writer folk than anything house/experimental that you will find on Ray of Light. Taylor will actually have to conceive a concept album and actually experiment with sounds that are beyond her usual.

 

She ain't that girl because she is too focused on selling her millions rather than expand her artistic vision and quality. She's dead, artistically.

 

The closest thing we have ever got to Ray of light's artistic intentions, focus, growth and experimentation from a current MPG, is BEYONCE and RENNAISSANCE. No-one else ever got close!

Edited Friday at 12:38 PM by Mr.X
expanding on the original point

[The7thStranger]

13 minutes ago, Sawk said:

You people are fools, Taylor Swift most definitely can create a Ray of Light-esque album that deals with (potential) motherhood and religious reinvention. 

Adversity and finding peace is what led to the creation of Ray of Light, including Madonna's feelings about motherhood after losing her own mother at a young age, the death of her friends, and her becoming disillusioned with fame after dedicating her entire life to it. The Velvet Rope came from Janet's continued struggle with disordering eating and depression, her abusive first marriage, and coping with racism. Impossible Princess was Kylie trying to prove that she wasn't a vacuous disco Barbie doll. These struggles and motivations sparked real change in their content.

 

What fuels Taylor's music isn't on that level.

 

13 minutes ago, Sawk said:

she can write a f*cking great song.

She can, but she often chooses to pad her albums with subpar, mediocre poetry. For every Ivy, there are 5 Bad Bloods.

 

13 minutes ago, Sawk said:

but she has the capacity to develop a record of that caliber.

Not in 2024 she doesn't.

Edited Friday at 12:47 PM by The7thStranger

[Dante Silva]

When Madonna did ROL it stemmed from seeing life from a different angle after giving birth combined to an exploration of spirituality and mysticism as much as it was about growing sick of the superficialities of the excesses of fame.

 

The one thing Madonna and Taylor both share, is being the most ambitiously driven artists of their respective generations - however they are very different personalities and Taylor is simply not ready to experience childbirth and the change in perspective that experience brings.

 

In the video for "Drowned World/ Substitute For Love", when Madonna looks to camera, grabs Lourdes in her embrace and sings "this is my religion" - she is literally singing about motherhood and that sentiment exists today with her now expanded rainbow family.

 

Edited Friday at 12:56 PM by Dante Silva

[Sawk]

5 minutes ago, The7thStranger said:

Adversity and finding peace is what led to the creation of Ray of Light, including Madonna's feelings about motherhood after losing her own mother at a young age, the death of her friends, and her becoming disillusioned with fame after dedicating her entire life to it. The Velvet Rope came from Janet's continued struggle with disordering eating and depression, her abusive first marriage, and coping with racism. Impossible Princess was Kylie trying to prove that she wasn't a vacuous disco Barbie doll. These struggles and motivations sparked real change.

 

What fuels Taylor's music isn't on that level.

 

She can, but she often chooses to pad her albums with subpar, mediocre poetry. For every Ivy, there are 5 Bad Bloods.

 

Not in 2024 she isn't.

I think one of the more misunderstood or not talked about issues that Taylor has is her alcoholism; she's sort of talked about it on her records, but I have a theory it's lowkey deeper than what she leads us to believe and that aspect of her life has the potential to fuel an experimental and off kilter record in my opinion.

 

To your second point, yes, she has a couple of duds on some albums, more recently she's been on a bit of a decline, but I wouldn't count her out just yet. 
 

Also, I agree 2024 was a bad year for her artistically, she lowkey released her worst album in more than a decade, but Taylor isn't a one trick pony, she has another amazing record in her, trust. 

[The7thStranger]

Just now, Sawk said:

I think one of the more misunderstood or not talked about issues that Taylor has is her alcoholism; she's sort of talked about it on her records, but I have a theory it's lowkey deeper than what she leads us to believe and that aspect of her life has the potential to fuel an experimental and off kilter record in my opinion.

 

To your second point, yes, she has a couple of duds on some albums, more recently she's been on a bit of a decline, but I wouldn't count her out just yet. 
 

Also, I agree 2024 was a bad year for her artistically, she lowkey released her worst album in more than a decade, but Taylor isn't a one trick pony, she has another amazing record in her, trust. 

I'm not saying she needs to fall victim to an -ism to create good music, but she would have to attack her subject matter, whatever that may be, on a more profound level. She's done it with love, particularly new romance and loss of that romance. But  if she isn't careful, she's going to get in the habit of releasing the same thing over and over again (once could argue she's already there). Stevie Nicks went through something very similar. Once her creative juice ran out, it really ran out, and it took her decades to get any of her mojo back.

 

One would hope that something will happen in Taylor's life that will at least change her way of thinking. Doesn't necessarily need to be tragedy.

[Sawk]

1 minute ago, The7thStranger said:

I'm not saying she needs to fall victim to an -ism to create good music, but she would have to attack her subject matter, whatever that may be, on a more profound level. She's done it with love, particularly new romance and loss of that romance. But  if she isn't careful, she's going to get in the habit of releasing the same thing over and over again (once could argue she's already there). Stevie Nicks went through something very similar. Once her creative juice ran out, it really ran out, and it took her decades to get any of her mojo back.

 

One would hope that something will happen in Taylor's life that will at least change her way of thinking. Doesn't necessarily need to be tragedy.

I can see why you'd think her creative juices are running out, but I was humbled really quick by her because, after Loser came out, I was going to unstan (ME!th did that), but she grabbed me by the neck and choked tf outta me when she released Folklord. That moment made me never doubt her ability to make an iconic album, even if she does release a sh*tty record like PTSD.

 

Her being with Travis, potentially getting married and having kids will likely be the catalyst for changing her way of thinking. Let's hope for the best. 

[Colmillo]

Noah Fence but I don't think Taylor has the maturity to create a Ray Of Light  she would have to experiment and create something completely different from what she's done to this point, and I don't think she wants to do that because she knows that she can continue doing the same thing and still be successful, I think she likes being successful too much so she doesn't want to risk it by doing something different.

[ChooseyLover]

Not y'all expecting Ray Of Light's and certain level of innovation from ordinary people. You have to be a bit crazy in the head to create greatness, these well adjusted girlies can only do so much.

[Kiss It Better]

love taylor but she can't even do Rebel Heart yet 

[bielneira]

She would never be fr