fan base K-Pop: New Year, New Us

[Save-Me-Oprah]

14 hours ago, Ryan said:

I've been watching Enhypen videos all week. I really am obsessed with every member.

stan Jungwon

 

[Sailor Moon]

not even more clips of sungchan picking his nose 

stop it i can't defend him anymore!!

 

the stress from the workzone causes him to pick up some habits!

at least he's keeping things clean!

 

 

sm failed to teach their idols about hygiene, i'm sending the blimp!

 

[Sheep]

6 hours ago, MonsterNavy said:

confession time: i've been enjoying red velvet's discography the past few months for some reason 

 

And if I told you the BP solos got me together? We were Freaky Friday'd I fear worstie

[Raspy]

 

jennie and lisa would smash harder than roseanne with bruno feature

she just got lucky 

[Darkling]

So Close Your Eyes (the Project 7 group) did their first performance in the GDA and it seems like they did good for the people worrying about who was gonna sing 

 

 

I'm happy they performed Time After Time it was the best song from the survival, if this is gonna be their kind of songs and aesthetics and if Frants keeps giving them these bangers I predict a good future for them 

[Pluto6]

11 hours ago, Eternium said:

Stray Kids after 1,604 days - 3 billion Streams on Spotify

 

Aespa after 1,508 days - 3,420,132,492 streams on Spotify

 

Stray Kids after 2,552 days - 14 100M+ streamed tracks

 

Aespa after 1,508 days - 12 100M+ streamed tracks

 

Aespa did it with fewer releases, fewer tracks, fewer albums and fewer comebacks. I have no idea if this was aimed at me, but I'm guessing it was so I'll bite  

Spoiler

The way you're still trying 

Anyways, let's compare aespa streams in their 4th year (2024) vs SKZ's 4h year (2022):

 

aespa's pulled 1,703B Spotify streams in 2024

 

SKZ pulled 1,717B Spotify streams in 2022

 

They practically pulled the same numbers with SKZ having a little bit more, however aespa's 2024 numbers still couldn't surpass SKZ's numbers in 2022, despite Spotify being bigger for Kpop acts in 2024 than it was in 2022. 

 

SKZ by the end of 2022 had 3,7B total Spotify streams since debut

 

aespa by the end of 2024 had 3,4B total streams since debut, which is still less than SKZ.

 

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It's also a known fact that SKZ had a slow start, and it wasn't really until 2020 that they became very popular. Like SKZ literally performed better in 2020 than 2018-2019 combined for example.

So trying to compare the first years of each group would't really reflect anything, cause you could literally remove the first 2 years of SKZ's career, and it would barely have an influence on their overall numbers. 

 

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Btw, even if SKZ hadn't released music in 2024, they still would have outstreamed aespa with their back catalog alone. SKZ's back catalog pulled in 2.1B streams in 2024, while aespa, including their 2024 releases, pulled 1.7B streams.

 

Anyways this whole thing started because of you randomly making claims about aespa being bigger on streaming than SKZ out of nowhere. Though I don't wanna take away aespa's achievements either, since they are actually doing good on streaming right now and broke the SM streaming curse 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 11:14 AM by Pluto6

[MonsterNavy]

1 hour ago, Sheep said:

And if I told you the BP solos got me together? We were Freaky Friday'd I fear worstie

 

[Witnessed ET]

2 hours ago, Raspy said:

 

jennie and lisa would smash harder than roseanne with bruno feature

she just got lucky 

Jennie and Lisa would never think of making a song like APT though. It sounds very Rose

 

[Witnessed ET]

On 1/3/2025 at 5:41 PM, Delirious said:

Do you guys feel like recently in kpop it's either youre a really successful group or you get left behind?

 

Also don't know why so many groups are flopping hard like IVE, itzy, gidle, stayc despite being invincible at the start 

 

Also what happened to Billie, everglow, nmixx etc. all those groups were like pretty popular and now they faded into super irrelevancy.

I wouldn't say IVE and Gidle are flopping "hard" though? They're still getting #1s even though there is a slight decline from their previous eras. The others….yeah you're right. 

[Antisocialites]

this thread always does the same and treats top 10 hits as massive flops. IVE's HEYA peaked at #2 on MelOn and Circle Digital... how is that a hard flop? 

[Antisocialites]

same with NJ's How Sweet, peaked at #2 on MelOn and Circle Digital. that's just another great hit.

[Joseline]

 

Hmmm.. I feel like they're baiting people.

 

 

[Joseline]

NEW TAEHYUNG PHOTOS! ARRRMMMMSSSSSSSSSSS 

 

[Brooklyn Baby]

 

[OrgVisual]

Another DAESANG in the basket

[Dialamba]

4 hours ago, Raspy said:

 

jennie and lisa would smash harder than roseanne with bruno feature

she just got lucky 

Jennie has a feat with The Weeknd 
only Lisa has a solo hit 

[hallucinate]

10 years since this klassique dropped

tiktok would eat this up today tbh

[Eternium]

4 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

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The way you're still trying 

Anyways, let's compare aespa streams in their 4th year (2024) vs SKZ's 4h year (2022):

 

aespa's pulled 1,703B Spotify streams in 2024

 

SKZ pulled 1,717B Spotify streams in 2022

 

They practically pulled the same numbers with SKZ having a little bit more, however aespa's 2024 numbers still couldn't surpass SKZ's numbers in 2022, despite Spotify being bigger for Kpop acts in 2024 than it was in 2022. 

 

SKZ by the end of 2022 had 3,7B total Spotify streams since debut

 

aespa by the end of 2024 had 3,4B total streams since debut, which is still less than SKZ.

 

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It's also a known fact that SKZ had a slow start, and it wasn't really until 2020 that they became very popular. Like SKZ literally performed better in 2020 than 2018-2019 combined for example.

So trying to compare the first years of each group would't really reflect anything, cause you could literally remove the first 2 years of SKZ's career, and it would barely have an influence on their overall numbers. 

 

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Btw, even if SKZ hadn't released music in 2024, they still would have outstreamed aespa with their back catalog alone. SKZ's back catalog pulled in 2.1B streams in 2024, while aespa, including their 2024 releases, pulled 1.7B streams.

 

Anyways this whole thing started because of you randomly making claims about aespa being bigger on streaming than SKZ out of nowhere. Though I don't wanna take away aespa's achievements either, since they are actually doing good on streaming right now and broke the SM streaming curse 

 

 

 

You started this argument months ago. I told you I'd finish it and I stuck to my word. As Aespa keeps outperforming SKZ, I'll keep reminding you.

 

I have no actual ill will towards SKZ or you (even though I enjoy a good drag every now and again), but I do like number analysis.

 

As far as your argument that SKZ's 4th calendar year (2022) outstreamed Aespa's 4th calendar year (2024), that's a daft argument. SKZ debuted on January 8th, 2018 and Aespa debuted on November 17th, 2020 which gives SKZ over 10 months of an advantage on Aespa for calendar year comparisons. SKZ had 7 minis, 2 full albums, a repackage, a special single album, a pre-debut mixtape, 2 Japanese mini albums, a Japanese single and a Japanese best album by the end of 2022. Aespa had 1 full album, 5 mini albums and 1 Japanese single by the end of 2024. Aespa achieved way more with less.

 

And the argument that you could drop SKZ's first two years and it wouldn't take away much doesn't bode well for claiming SKZ is so much more successful. It makes them look worse when you compare them to Aespa as they performed similarly on Spotify within their first two calendar years despite Aespa getting just two mini albums and two digital singles as title tracks.

2 hours ago, Antisocialites said:

same with NJ's How Sweet, peaked at #2 on MelOn and Circle Digital. that's just another great hit.

The girls in this thread have literally no idea about any receipts and they get their opinions based on what a Twitter user tells them from the song's first release day. "How Sweet" will be #9 on Gaon's year end and "Heya" should be in the Top 20. NJ were the #1 girl group for digitals and album sales of 2024 and IVE was #3 for digitals (with 1 comeback) and I believe #5 or #6 for sales (again, with just 1 comeback).

 

This thread needs to start thinking more about profitability than just chart positions if they want to understand why certain groups are successful.

[Save-Me-Oprah]

 

lord have mercy

 

[muddysquirrel]

So NJ is done with ADOR-based stuff? I read starting from tomorrow you can expect major media play? Looking forward to it. I think its gonna take an huge effort from Hybe. NJ is still majorly loved around Korea and Japan.

[TheCal]

 

my man

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

 

he is so gorgeous

 

[TheCal]

 

things are going to get ugly from tomorrow

 

[Eternium]

6 minutes ago, TheCal said:

 

things are going to get ugly from tomorrow

 

It's time we start really bullying the LSF, Fraud (BTS) and ILLIT stans for going out of their way to stan such an abusive company. 
 

Not even a NJ's fan but the way they stan this company abusing mostly teenaged girls is so ******* weird.

[illia]

16 hours ago, Butters said:

 

 

I saw Crazy in many Tiktok edits lately 

Korea better follow suit with the virality