fan base K-Pop: New Year, New Us

[Darkling]

 

 

[youresotoxic]

so no BoA, Taeyeon, AND Wendy...? just cancel the whole thing at this point 

what a mess of a company and concert

 

Edited Monday at 03:30 PM by youresotoxic

[Joseline]

 

[Joseline]

Winners of 39th Golden Disc Awards

 

Best Group: LE SSERAFIM
Best Band: DAY6
Most Popular Artist (Female): LE SSERAFIM
Most Popular Artist (Male): PLAVE
Cosmopolitan Artist: NewJeans
Next Generation: KISS OF LIFE
Best OST: Crush 
Golden Honorable Choice: Shin Hae Chul
Best Producer: Han Sung Soo
Fan's Choice: ENHYPEN
Global K-Pop Artist: ENHYPEN, IVE
Best Solo Artist: YUQI
Rookie of the Year: ILLIT, TWS, NCT WISH, BABYMONSTER
Best Digital Song (Bonsang): aespa, BIBI, DAY6, (G)I-DLE, ILLIT, IVE, IU, NewJeans, TAEYEON, TWS
Best Album (Bonsang): aespa, ATEEZ, ENHYPEN, (G)I-DLE, IVE, NCT DREAM, SEVENTEEN, Stray Kids, TXT, ZEROBASEONE 
Digital Song of the Year (Daesang): aespa
Album of the Year (Daesang): SEVENTEEN 

Most Awarded Artists at 39th Golden Disc Awards:

3 awards: ENHYPEN, IVE, aespa, 
2 awards: LE_SSERAFIM, DAY6, NewJeans, ILLIT, TWS, GIDLE, SEVENTEEN

 

 

 

[Sailor Moon]

thinking about how solid irene's album is

 

she really did THAT.

[Raspy]

it takes forever to load the last page i just give up

[Supervillain]

2 hours ago, youresotoxic said:

 

This is incredible  We need a group comeback with this sound, enough of goofy songs

[Eternium]

11 hours ago, Cheers said:

Tokyo Dome sellouts are above being called Khias. Take it back!

Have they really? I feel like I've never heard of them and if you told me they just debuted, I'd believe you. What do they sing?

6 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

Maybe it's because he literally claimed that aespa outstreamed SKZ every year when comparing each of their first 4 years, so I pulled out the receipts and debunked his claim 

 

Btw, JYP acts didn't join Spotify until March 30 2018.

 

Anyways, the way you constantly wanna compare SKZ's first few years, when I myself acknowledged multiple times that SKZ's career started out slow  

And yet despite SKZ starting slow, aespa by the end of 2024 still wasn't able surpass SKZ's total numbers by the end of 2022  The fact that SKZ in their later half of their first 4 years (2020-2022) alone did almost the same numbers as aespa from debut to present which is 4 years   

 

If aespa were truly bigger than SKZ on streaming as you claim , they would've outstreamed them by now, just like how LE SSERAFIM and NewJeans managed to surpass aespa on Spotify, despite debuting later than them. 

 

SKZ with their back catalog alone are pulling in more streams yearly than aespa does in a year with multiple album releases + their catalog. They are not the same.

 

And it's funny how you wanna bring up Korean streaming platforms, when SKZ's total Spotify numbers ALONE is bigger than aespa's Spotify + Youtube + MelOn + Genie + every other music streaming platform COMBINED 

 

aespa will NEVER be bigger than SKZ on streaming or in general  The only 4th gen group that ever rivaled and truly gave SKZ a run for their money on streaming at some point was NewJeans who actually even managed to out stream SKZ in 2023. 

You didn't debunk anything. You posted calendar years to compare a group that debuted in January to a group that debuted in November. The fact that it was even close was devastating for SKZ

 

 

Your literal argument is that SKZ were flopping on Spotify and grew later so we should pretend the first part of their careers didn't exist. But Aespa experienced something similar because SM didn't playlist their music and they didn't even have ten songs out by their first anniversary. Yet Aespa are about 600M+ streams ahead of SKZ at the same point in their career. And that's just Spotify - they're doing significantly better on Apple Music, Melon, Genie, VIBE, etc. 

 

Aespa's Spotify + YouTube + Melon = 8.3B+ (start of Year 5)

Stray Kids's Spotify = 9.4B+ (2 days before Year 8 starts)

 

So now you think Aespa has pulled less than 1.1B streams from Genie, VIBE, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Bugs, etc? Genie alone is 500M streams  Sorry Aespa aren't just propped up by Stationhead Spotify streams like SKZ. 
 

Anyway, I'm done because you're just ignoring every fact. But I'll make sure to tag you when Aespa surpass 4B streams about 100 days faster than Stray Kids  

3 hours ago, Zack said:

We don't really know for sure, the "personal reasons" came from SM's announcement, not WENDY. This phrase worried fans which is why she made her own message saying she's not sick, since that was what SM's statement was kinda suggesting.

 

She said that she really wants to sing and stand on the stage. So it's possible that SM isn't letting her perform. She said it was discussed more than 1 month ago but SM is only revealing it now. Some think it could just be a conflict with planned schedules, but that doesn't make sense because SM manages her activities and this SMTOWN concert is a big 30th anniversary event. She is the RV soloist with the most songs, she should be there like everyone else.

 

So it's kinda fishy. Either there is some issue behind the scenes or it's because she's not renewing her contract. 

 

Full translation of WENDY's message:

 

 

They just did the same thing to Taeyeon. They didn't plan anything because they don't value soloists, especially female soloists. It's their MO, despite nobody caring about their male soloists at all.

[Supervillain]

IVE teasers are terrible  Where's the budget? Why are they releasing a cheesy pop rock song? 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

So Wendy is OUT at SM huh

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

sjdjLxhsldhskshdjd Sunoo when he saw Mingyu, I screamed

 

same gorl, same

[Save-Me-Oprah]

:deadbanana3:

 

 

[Red Velvet]

is boynextdoor doing payola? Is it this year's TWS chart manipulation 

[Darkling]

All this chart manipulation talk is so tiring it's pointless being excited about a new group doing numbers because as long as it is not one of your faves, you always end up accusing people of payola, jesus

 

Anyway do you know who deserves all the payola, exactly, ENGODPEN and the real bg soty of last year, Moonstruck 

 

Edited Monday at 06:23 PM by Darkling

[youresotoxic]

 

the queens are BACK  ugh, I missed them SO much 

[ItsJustMe.]

30 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

sjdjLxhsldhskshdjd Sunoo when he saw Mingyu, I screamed

 

same gorl, same

ugh when mingyu walks by.. a MAN

this is what we need more in kpop plzzz rachel skip the twinks

[ItsJustMe.]

3 hours ago, youresotoxic said:

she looks BETTER than EVER

[ItsJustMe.]

3 hours ago, youresotoxic said:

 

they are not doing this to me no no  

[Darkling]

And if I say this is one of the best songs coming from a bg in the last year what? I hope they escape the Treasure curse and do not make their best song the one they did in the survival even before debut 

 

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

3 hours ago, youresotoxic said:

 

 

[ItsJustMe.]

but where is SOMI

[Inspirit]

RIIZE coming for our feels once again.

 

[Zack]

18 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

but where is SOMI

Don't worry, most likely once BP have had their comeback, she'll have her annual 2 week summer outing from the dungeon with one of Teddy's scraps

 

 

Edited Monday at 07:03 PM by Zack

[ItsJustMe.]

5 minutes ago, Zack said:

Don't worry, most likely once BP have had their comeback, she'll have her annual 2 week summer outing from the dungeon with one of Teddy's scraps

 

 

  her last release was such a letdown after Fast Forward's smashery
 

 

[hallucinate]

1 hour ago, Supervillain said:

IVE teasers are terrible  Where's the budget? Why are they releasing a cheesy pop rock song? 

well they are not actual teasers (thankfully)

but photos from the concept trailer

 

the song is just a b side that should've been kept