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[JO1s]

2ne1 and SNSD both having 2 mil + monthly listeners 11 and 8 years since their last proper eras says a a lot. SKZ have a huge fandom but they'll probably be a tvxq or super junior type in terms of being remembered for their music.

[Windy Day]

1 minute ago, Pluto6 said:

Why are you as a non korean worried about whether Stray Kids are popular in their home country or not, when they still managed to become one of the biggest kpop acts of all time globally 

 

this has to be the most unintelligent post in this thread  you genuinely sounds like an imbecile NO SHADE

[Gorjesspazze9]

1 minute ago, Ubermensch said:

 

This is the US iTunes chart in 2012. This is before streaming and this was BY FAR the most important album chart in the entire world at the time. You could only ever buy an album ONE time on iTunes too, there were no streaming farm or bulk buy workarounds here.

Heavy Bold "One Album" for these Gen Z kids. Let them know! We don't bulk buy in this house… unless it's I Got a Boy 9 versions👀… or EXO…

[Ubermensch]

Just now, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Heavy Bold "One Album" for these Gen Z kids. Let them know! We don't bulk buy in this house… unless it's I Got a Boy 9 versions👀… or EXO…

IGAB only had 8 versions. 

[Darkling]

EN-karma 

 

 

 

To be honest I didn't like Loose that much, I mean, it was okay but I was hoping for a hoe anthem so it was a bit of a disappointment but anyway, excited for En-Chella in just one week!

 

[Windy Day]

stray kids being one of the biggest kpop group of all time but their biggest song has...

 

400 millions streams

 

and they have...

 

10m monthly listeners...

 

okay

[prettyinpink940]

Me reading y'all arguing about SNSD's legacy

 

[Pluto6]

29 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

BTS and Black Pink are the only groups that can truly claim to be on a totally different level to their 2nd gen counterparts, and even then its only because of endless media play and sajaegi to prop them up and kickstart their careers in the west, something that would have NEVER happened if Sone did not make the west into a viable market for kpop to seriously expand into.

 

to act like groups like TWICE, Stray kids and NewJeans etc. aren't on a different level in the West compared to 2nd gen is just delusional worstie, sorry. 

 

And also, 3rd gen are the result of the global audience and the new wave of Kpop fans we have today that 4th gen groups are now benefitting from. 

For example, I Personally, got into K-pop thanks to BLACKPINK. At the time, no other group even came close to making it onto my radar. From there, I explored more and ended up getting into new groups and stanning groups like Stray Kids and TWICE etc.

[Pluto6]

4 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

stray kids being one of the biggest kpop group of all time but their biggest song has...

 

400 millions streams

 

and they have...

 

10m monthly listeners...

 

okay

That still more than aespa's most streamed song though 

[Darkling]

 

 

[Ubermensch]

5 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

to act like groups like TWICE, Stray kids and NewJeans etc. aren't on a different level in the West compared to 2nd gen is just delusional worstie, sorry. 

NewJeans were definitely on track to be on that tier. I have literally never heard a normal person mention Twix or SKZ though. I'm a Twix fan too so its really really not about being shady or delusional. Twice are on that level in Asia but not ww, and if we're counting asian popularity then my stan list takes a wrecking ball to even BTS.

 

5 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

And also, 3rd gen are the result of the global audience and the new wave of Kpop fans we have today that 4th gen groups are now benefitting from. 

For example, I Personally, got into K-pop thanks to BLACKPINK. At the time, no other group even came close to making it onto my radar. From there, I explored more and ended up getting into new groups and stanning groups like Stray Kids and TWICE etc.

And this happened because sone were in the trenches telling our friends that we listen to Korean music in a country so xenophobic that it tried to rename french fries into freedom fries. The endless spending on western marketing for BLACKPINK that included collabs with Dua, Cardi, Selena, and Gaga would have never happened if there wasn't a proven kpop fandom.

 

 

 

Anyway thanks for another excuse to rant about SNSD's countless achievements and untouchable impact. It's the thing you're best for. Stream the greatest song ever recorded.

 

Edited yesterday at 01:49 PM by Ubermensch

[Pluto6]

You guys are letting nostalgia get to you, cause how can you downplay SKZ or TWICE's numbers in the West and at the same time trying to make SNSD happen over there  THE DELUSION

 

Edited yesterday at 01:52 PM by Pluto6

[Ubermensch]

Just now, Pluto6 said:

You guys are letting nosstalgia get to you, cause how can you downplay SKZ or TWICE's numbers in the West and at the same time trying to make SNSD happen over there 

We witnessed the rise of bulk buying and spotify fraud so we're good at detecting it. Please stop setting up legends TWICE by putting them next to a group that literally nobody has ever heard of.   

[Gorjesspazze9]

SNSD peaked changed all of kpop and literally started a new Hallyu wave. That's not nostalgia. They really did that.

[Pluto6]

1 minute ago, Ubermensch said:

We witnessed the rise of bulk buying and spotify fraud so we're good at detecting it. Please stop setting up legends TWICE by putting them next to a group that literally nobody has ever heard of.   

The nerve, when aespa are carried by Chinese bulk buys and SEA streaming farms globally 

[youresotoxic]

 

let me just sneak this SMASH in real quick 

[Pluto6]

1 minute ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

SNSD peaked changed all of kpop and literally started a new Hallyu wave. That's not nostalgia. They really did that.

[Pluto6]

forgive me bestie  @Gorjesspazze9

[Inspirit]

2 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

SNSD peaked changed all of kpop and literally started a new Hallyu wave. That's not nostalgia. They really did that.

 

[Ubermensch]

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

The nerve, when aespa are carried by Chinese bulk buys and SEA streaming farms globally 

Meanwhile on planet earth, aespa has much better longevity on every relevant western chart both with albums and singles than your favs.

[Windy Day]

10 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

That still more than aespa's most streamed song though 

drama's daily streams 424,356

god's menu's daily streams 250,352

 

not for long i fear

 

[Ubermensch]

25 minutes ago, JO1s said:

2ne1 and SNSD both having 2 mil + monthly listeners 11 and 8 years since their last proper eras says a a lot. SKZ have a huge fandom but they'll probably be a super junior type in terms of being remembered for their music.

The way this is an entire genre of boy group that falls off a cliff once they hit twink death and somehow new generations of fans keep getting duped into embarrassing themselves and all of the other kpop fans by putting them on a pedestal. 

[JO1s]

Syoya looks so good 

[Windy Day]

also not comparing aespa and stray kids' daily streams when aespa only 84 tracks and does 4M while stray kids has 300+ and does 9M 

[MonsterNavy]

1 hour ago, Ubermensch said:

BTS and Blackpink did not pave the way

we know and no blink is saying this. pluto is just inserting bp to this conversation to win cause bts, twice and stray kids combined "paving the way" isn't something anyone would take seriously