base talk Can Taylor debut with 1M+ with ONE album variant?

[Solaria]

I mean folklore almost did 1M and those vinyls didn't ship until weeks later so what makes y'all think she couldn't do it? 

[Dear Reader]

If there's one person that can do it, it's her, be serious 

[By the Water]

31 minutes ago, HRHCOLLECTION said:

 

You can't listen to photo books on streaming services. People don't buy physical music because of that, so the book comparison is not right

You think people that bought that book wouldn't buy the album regardless? 

[smartalek22]

Yes but not 2m+ like what TTPD ended up with 

[Popboi.]

With absolute ease

[Popboi.]

2 minutes ago, Solaria said:

I mean folklore almost did 1M and those vinyls didn't ship until weeks later so what makes y'all think she couldn't do it? 

Those vinyl were counted as digital sales on week 1 as they included a digital download alongside, but she's now much bigger than when folklore dropped. TTPD streams alone almost dwarfed folklore and Lover's opening weeks.

[Buffy]

13 minutes ago, americanlife said:

She did this for reputation which had a couple CD variants at Target and she still hit 1M.

I'd like her to do this experiment again just to see how much she can do now. I imagine she can do it with ease since the Eras Tour has given her a major boost

[WildHeart]

49 minutes ago, Draper. said:

No.

 

46 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Nope. Her numbers thrive off of bolstered album sales and perceived obsolescence. 

 

42 minutes ago, Almighty Gaga said:

Please be serious

 

35 minutes ago, Feanor said:

She sold almost 1M books priced at $40 in one week.

 

Besides, she already did with 'TTPD':

683k SEA units + 342k sales of The Manuscript vinyl alone = 1.025M SPS units from just streaming + 1 vinyl version.

This just shows the difference between the perception of OTH and reality once again 

[iHype.]

Just now, WildHeart said:

 

 

 

This just shows the difference between the perception of OTH and reality once again 

I mean technically the SEA number had multiple versions since Anthology was another version of the album released digitally after release.

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Maybe a little bit more than 1m in the best case, but not anywhere near 2m.

[Richie]

No, that's the reason she releases endless variants.

[Popboi.]

1 minute ago, Richie said:

No, that's the reason she releases endless variants.

Quite literally everyone big (and even indie acts) does it and can't reach 500k, let alone 1m (or 2.6m like Taylor)

[YellowRibbon]

Yeah, but the bitter homosexuals in this forum will never accept it because it doesn't fit their narrative.

[WildHeart]

5 minutes ago, iHype. said:

I mean technically the SEA number had multiple versions since Anthology was another version of the album released digitally after release.

3/4 of its streams came from standart version which means ~500k units from streaming of OG tho. 

 

She sold 2M pure which means 500k each version (assuming they sold equally, we know OG sold most by far) so that's still 1M basically. 

 

She can definitely do 0.5M SEA +1M pure - 1.5M with one variant. 

Edited yesterday at 02:30 PM by WildHeart

[Cruel Summer]

Yeah, and pretty easily right now. TS12, Reputation TV, and even TSTV could all cross that mark without additional variants. Remember that the vast majority of her consumers only buy one copy, maybe two (across different formats) - you can't exactly divide her numbers cleanly by the number of distinct album covers available during release week and assume that's her "real" sales or anything like that.

[BnPac]

Yes. 

[Richie]

6 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

Quite literally everyone big (and even indie acts) does it and can't reach 500k, let alone 1m (or 2.6m like Taylor)

She still could not Swiftie 

[Libardes]

Can anyone debut 1M with variants? 
 

no. Only taylor 

[greento]

People severely overestimate how many people actually buy more than 1 version of each album, especially all during the opening week. Maybe some people will collect the variants later on, but it's a very small number actually buying all versions at release 

[Popboi.]

1 minute ago, Richie said:

She still could not Swiftie 

She did 700k on streams alone, wbk simple math ain't your forte but you REALLY think she can't do 300k from one variant when she did 300k+ from multiple variants EACH

[DevilsRollTheDice]

I wish we had the complete breakdown of where the sales come from because I think it's likely the vast of her physical sales come from people buying the standard CD and vinyl. It's a very small group that collects every version. 
 

Obviously she can easily debut with over 1 million album equivalent units without variants, she did 700k+ with streaming alone. As people love owning her physical media, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if TTPD still did north of 2 million without variants. Again, the majority of people who buy her CDs and vinyls don't buy multiple versions. For release week she actually had a pretty low number of variants compared to other artists recently. 

Edited yesterday at 02:42 PM by DevilsRollTheDice

[Johnny Jacobs]

We will never know 

[Richie]

3 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

She did 700k on streams alone, wbk simple math ain't your forte but you REALLY think she can't do 300k from one variant when she did 300k+ from multiple variants EACH

700K from 30 tracks sounds about expected… milk as much as you can, it's all about inflating numbers. 

[Headlock]

10 minutes ago, Richie said:

She still could not Swiftie 

The obstinant trolling 

[Popboi.]

5 minutes ago, Richie said:

700K from 30 tracks sounds about expected… milk as much as you can, it's all about inflating numbers. 

Go tell that to Morgan, Beyoncé, SZA, Chris Brown and Charli

[Cruel Summer]

5 minutes ago, Richie said:

700K from 30 tracks sounds about expected… milk as much as you can, it's all about inflating numbers. 

Oh so now the goal post has moved from whether she could do it to how many tracks she needs on her album to do it, "inflating numbers" nonsense as if any of those streams weren't real? Not to mention that no other album at that length has ever done that much. Are you like, just mad and fuming because you know she could actually do it?