base talk Beyonce MOST RIAA certifcations by any female. Why?

[Burn]

3 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said:

Where, in your mind, does Beyonce stand on that color scale?

 

Plus no one says Rihanna doesn't deserve any of her accolades regardless of who is below her and she's the same tone if not slightly browner than Beyonce. 

Whether you think she deserves the accolades or not doesn't change the fact that she has them. Not sure what there is to be pressed over - do you think ranting about it endlessly will  take her achievements away from her? I'm not sure exactly what you're hoping to achieve here, and I'm not sure you do either. 

[BnPac]

19 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said:

Where, in your mind, does Beyonce stand on that color scale?

 

Plus no one says Rihanna doesn't deserve any of her accolades regardless of who is below her and she's the same tone if not slightly browner than Beyonce. 

Nobody gives two shits. I don't know why you feel the need to insert your fave's name on this thread so many times. 

If you want to talk about her so bad, go into a thread dedicated to her. 

[WildHeart]

51 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

The reality:

 

Most Grammy awarded and nominated artist ever

 

Greatest Popstar of the 21st Century

 

Most certified RIAA titles of any female artist (not even including Destinys Child)

 

#1 hits across 4 decades 

 

Multiple #1 hits surpassing 8+ weeks 

 

Every solo album debuting with over 300k sales

Highest official grossing tour of 2023 as a 40 something year old black women that made an album and tour themed for a niche demographic unlike other artists that cater to the vast majority of the population with safe kiddy music 

 

Most googled live performance ever

 

Every celebrity's favorite celebrity

 

Doesn't rely on breakup songs every album for a quick lil hit that flies off the charts in record breaking numbers nor relies on creating several different versions of the same songs and albums + discounts + guilting little girls daddies to buy all versions to support their fave during financially rough times due to not owning masters. 
 

whew I could go on but the endless accolades speaks for itself. And I know you SEETHE. 

Why would i seethe at khia records like most googled performance or biggest tour of 2023 by a 40 years old female or 300k debuts... 

 

The standarts are crazy is all i am going to say 

 

43 minutes ago, JonginBey said:

Yet y'all are still bothered every time that girl's name appears BELOW Beyoncé's.

 

Wasn't she just #25 below Tate? I don't think Taylor being below Bey is a common thing we have to worry about but i am sure hive got used to it being other way around for years now hence why they can't even celebrate their fave's long waited update without swifties in their minds like we see in the OP

Edited 19 hours ago by WildHeart

[IsidoraMarí]

2 minutes ago, BnPac said:

Nobody gives two shits. I don't know why you feel the need to insert your fave's name on this thread so many times. 

If you want to talk about her so bad, go into a thread dedicated to her. 

Oh I thought this thread was about the female artist with the most certifications? Why wouldn't I mention her?

 

18 minutes ago, Burn said:

Whether you think she deserves the accolades or not doesn't change the fact that she has them. Not sure what there is to be pressed over - do you think ranting about it endlessly will  take her achievements away from her? I'm not sure exactly what you're hoping to achieve here, and I'm not sure you do either. 

I think she deserves more. I think her fans clearly aren't buying music and it's a shame.

 

It's not about what she deserves it's about reality and the hive keep saying she's the most certified female artist of the 21st century and it simply isn't true.

[sillycilla]

23 hours ago, swissman said:

 

 

And every fan should wish that their fave is neither measured by their last #1 nor the amount of diamond singles they have, but actually by the quality and importance of their work.

 

I cannot think of a single pop artist in history whose cultural importance, notoriety, acclaim and general status INCREASED while the #1s and top tens decreased almost entirely. THAT is power. THAT is truly the power of pop music done well.

 

 

This is a SERMON!!!! 
 

[Lovett]

15 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said:

Oh I thought this thread was about the female artist with the most certifications? Why wouldn't I mention her?

 

I think she deserves more. I think her fans clearly aren't buying music and it's a shame.

 

It's not about what she deserves it's about reality and the hive keep saying she's the most certified female artist of the 21st century and it simply isn't true.

Not you still trying to lie because you can't read the thread title.  Literally no one has said she's the most certified female artist of the 21st century. Learn to read, it's getting embarrassing.

[latingrl2005]

1 hour ago, Lovett said:

 

I said what I said...Beyoncé is the whitest black girl ever. So stop. I'm probably tanner than her right now just from living in Florida.

[Lovett]

1 minute ago, latingrl2005 said:

I said what I said...Beyoncé is the whitest black girl ever. So stop. I'm probably tanner than her right now just from living in Florida.

We all knew the racism was just bubbling beneath the surface. You lot are never very subtle with it.

[JonginBey]

1 hour ago, WildHeart said:

Why would i seethe at khia records like most googled performance or biggest tour of 2023 by a 40 years old female or 300k debuts... 

 

The standarts are crazy is all i am going to say 

 

Wasn't she just #25 below Tate? I don't think Taylor being below Bey is a common thing we have to worry about but i am sure hive got used to it being other way around for years now hence why they can't even celebrate their fave's long waited update without swifties in their minds like we see in the OP

Aah, the Greatest Popstar of the 21st Century has you bothered!

 

 

[JonginBey]

13 minutes ago, latingrl2005 said:

I said what I said...Beyoncé is the whitest black girl ever. So stop. I'm probably tanner than her right now just from living in Florida.

Trying to get those ki's in before the next hurricane wipes you out? 
 

[Loca]

Of course the stans of that woman ran to this thread. They really can't tolerate other women outdoing her.

 

Congratulations to the greatest pop star of the 21st century on her achievements.

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

Don't believe this 

[Kristie Kuwa]

3 minutes ago, Loca said:

Of course the stans of that woman ran to this thread. They really can't tolerate other women outdoing her.

 

Congratulations to the greatest pop star of the 21st century on her achievements.

They be like "we were adressed in the op, so we replied" when I never mentioned her in the title to begin with 

 

[swissman]

1 hour ago, IsidoraMarí said:

It's not about what she deserves it's about reality and the hive keep saying she's the most certified female artist of the 21st century and it simply isn't true.

But again, while vague, the title of this thread isn't necessarily wrong.

 

Beyoncé has the most certifications because more titles have certifications. Comparatively, Rihanna has more most certified sales because the titles that have certifications have altogether been certified as having a higher total amount.

A certification is the RIAA saying "yes, this sold x amount". The amount itself doesn't necessarily matter if talking about certification as a state of being certified. If a platinum certification is technically also gold first, does that mean that one title is worth 2 certifications?

 

Someone could have 4 gold certifications and you could easily say that person has more certifications than someone with one title certified 3x platinum.

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by swissman

[swissman]

2 hours ago, IsidoraMarí said:

Where, in your mind, does Beyonce stand on that color scale?

 

Plus no one says Rihanna doesn't deserve any of her accolades regardless of who is below her and she's the same tone if not slightly browner than Beyonce. 

While both Rihanna and Beyoncé are Black women and receive different reactions to their success, it doesn't mean racism doesn't exist and can't be present in the way some people react to the two women. It's like when someone says "I'm not racist! I have a black friend!". They may treat their friend well but that doesn't mean they're automatically exempt from having racist attitudes or micro-aggressions.

 

In Beyoncé's case, unlike Rihanna, she has been a polarizing figure that people love to hate and question since 1999, despite really not doing much of anything but be the lead singer of a band back then. In her peak, she was labelled as "over-exposed" and was told to go sit down and have babies. Add to that her feminist stances, her political alignments, and the topic of racism and Black pride she's used in her work (perhaps more than any popstar ever has, or at least, any popstar of this generation) AND the fact that Beyoncé is a legend in the industry that the media, the public and her peers all generally acknowledge and you might see why certain hateful people might go out of their way to disregard her accomplishments more than her other successful, Black peer.

 

And going back to the friend analogy, the main difference between Beyoncé and Rihanna has been that Rihanna has always been the more "relatable" than the two. She has the IDGAF attitude. She has the perception of possibly being your friend. Beyoncé doesn't, and for the above reasons too, it's much easier and more likely that someone will feel salty towards her and begin demeaning her accomplishments.

 

To put it most simply, Rihanna is somehow less threatening to them, and thus they aren't spending time vilifying her for being rich, or crediting Jay-Z for her success (despite actually being signed to Jay-Z's label) or saying that awards or accolades are bought.

 

I don't think that this is always because Beyoncé is Black. A lot of the time I think it's more to do with the fact that she's seen as a musical superlative and stans of other artists react to their jealousy by reaching for excuses, but her being a Black woman too, for many, surely comes into play. Racism exists and it exists in the music industry too, and thus, in the way fans speak or think about certain artists.

 

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by swissman

[swissman]

8 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

But that argument never counted when we made u aware of Beys sales, so I remain confused

 

the way no one gets the wink in thread's question is quite telling.

[piotrert]

8 hours ago, Burn said:

Swifties crashing out in this thread.  Ouu they're not having a great month are they, between:

 

- Beyoncé being announced as the Greatest Pop Star of the 21st Century with Taylor in second place

- Beyoncé becoming the most RIAA certified female artist, overtaking Taylor

- Cowboy Carter making year end lists and TFDP nowhere to be found

 

And they're in for another whacking on Christmas Day when Beyoncé shows yall why she's the greatest performer of all time.
 

i think bigger beyonce news past months was 'she knows' meme on tiktok and coming out of pedo-rapist husband

[Lovett]

12 minutes ago, piotrert said:

i think bigger beyonce news past months was 'she knows' meme on tiktok and coming out of pedo-rapist husband

That pales in comparison to the allegation against him completely falling apart.

[WildHeart]

2 hours ago, JonginBey said:

Aah, the Greatest Popstar of the 21st Century has you bothered!

 

 

The only place i hear about her is ATRL since i never hear her name mentioned in real life, don't worry about me

[JonginBey]

12 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

The only place i hear about her is ATRL since i never hear her name mentioned in real life, don't worry about me

Telling me when you should be consulting with an audiologist.

 

Edited 15 hours ago by JonginBey

[ChooseyLover]

It should cost a billion to buy these plaques. 

[WildHeart]

1 hour ago, JonginBey said:

Telling me when you should be consulting with an audiologist.

 

Not you blaming your fave's lack of cultural currency on my innocent petite ears

[50thStateofMind]

why? cause shes the GOAT. And no pathetic ATRLerʻs opinion will change that,

[1000 forms of queer]

On 12/17/2024 at 1:03 PM, By the Water said:

Not every artist is chart obsessed and updates all their certifications

Sorry you are NOT allowed to say this as a swiftie like lbfr lmaoo

[Marla Singer]

The funny thing about this is that she hasn't cared about the charts since like 2012 and onwards. Beyoncé herself won't give a crap about this, and neither do I tbh.

 

But it's gotta suck for stans who do care about the charts and stats. Just give in and admit defeat, stanning Bey would mean you don't have to pretend to like shitty music and you get the stats, success and legend status. Why make things so difficult for yourselves?