celeb news Update: Sexual assault case against Jay-Z dismissed

[Trent W]

10 minutes ago, qurl said:

whatever girl. i have a long memory and you still break a heel jumping into anything that's defamatory to Bey and her family. saying "I was wrong" doesn't do much when you were just another voice in the chorus amplifying false claims.

 

 

 

I made sure in the post you supposedly read to exclude her from Jay Z's accusations 

 

I still think he has a shady past and don't trust him

 

You don't have to stan both you know?

 

They are different people with different pasts. 

 

 

[Chris]

  

 

 

[Havoc]

Well there goes that...

[Vermillion]

@qurl Not gleeful about any of this. The accusations didn't surprise me nor the lack of the benefit of the doubt granted Jay-Z nor Beyonce given what she knew about him when they started dating and got married.

 

Buzbee's taking advantage of this woman's either hubris or mental illness or both is gross too.

 

A relative of mine was raped and now keeps a magnum in her bedroom. You don't know me.

 

The Hive and Swifties will continue impugning each others motives long after this dies down and their reputations will continue holding as a result, including not giving the other the benefit of the doubt when this all started.

 

That's all, I'm done.

[Comedor]

13 minutes ago, Chris said:

Jail Z

*****

[LustSpell]

This feels oddly similar to the Justin Bieber situation..?  He sued that false accusation right on back and they fell apart. If Jay starts suing people, would not be surprised to see people packing up and running in a flash.

[dumbsparce]

2 minutes ago, LustSpell said:

This feels oddly similar to the Justin Bieber situation..?  He sued that false accusation right on back and they fell apart. If Jay starts suing people, would not be surprised to see people packing up and running in a flash.

I mean.. do you blame him? This is one of the worst things someone could get accused of. If there's anyone who has the power to put an end to such extremities being spread like it's nothing, it's him. Maybe that we'll make those tiktokers and twitter accounts who spread nothing but lies rethink their actions.

[Dreajae]

From Taylor fans on ATRL to Nicki and Rihanna fans who pat their pum pum on LSA and Twitter. Neither of these parties can mind their business and BEG for Beys man to be just as broke, deviant and convicted as their faves man who they beg to marry and give babies and access to.

 

You should be embarrassed that your faves, and likely yourselves don't have a man that can stand on business. Your faves are suing labels cause they're mad they lost a rap beef and access to bots for their mid ssa music. Jay can sue entire police departments and has multi billion dollar corporations PAYING him for messing him over.

 

Bey doesn't have to lift a finger, and I love that for her. Maybe if the girls thought outside riding bum D and paying his bills so he'll stay, they wouldn't be so resentful that Bey and her beautiful daughters (and proven son) don't have to beg for ****. 

Edited December 15, 2024 by Dreajae
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[Park Jinyoung]

TBH I would be paying for PR too. If you look at reddit, the counter posts with the alleged victim's interview have not received even a fraction of the traffic the original accusations did. Same with the clips on TikTok. There's a lot of people out there that will just go about never knowing anything about this beyond the original headline.

 

I went several years thinking Connor Oberst (Bright Eyes) had sexually assaulted someone. I wasn't super into his music, but I did enjoy it casually. I never learned until a couple years ago that the woman had publicly admitted her story was false and Connor had sued her for defamation. So like I went all that time casually thinking he was a sex criminal when he wasn't. Every time I see people bring up his case on reddit, there's people that jump in to say they also had never known the accusation against him was recanted. So yes, while this should be handled delicately, if Jay Z didn't do this thing he's being accused of, why should he stay silent about something that already damaged his public standing and shames his family?

[Shelter]

My prediction, she will say she made another mistake, that it didn't happen in 2000, and will say a different year that it was hosted in NYC. Buzbee won't want to drop this. 

[Arrogant]

6 hours ago, Shelter said:

My prediction, she will say she made another mistake, that it didn't happen in 2000, and will say a different year that it was hosted in NYC. Buzbee won't want to drop this. 

I have no doubt. I saw people on Twitter twisting themselves into knots to explain how Good Charlotte could have flown in for one night to attend the afterparty before returning to their tour Constantly changing years and details until they finally land on something that makes sense will only make them look more clownish. This case is done, stick a fork in it.

[Lovett]

36 minutes ago, Arrogant said:

I have no doubt. I saw people on Twitter twisting themselves into knots to explain how Good Charlotte could have flown in for one night to attend the afterparty before returning to their tour Constantly changing years and details until they finally land on something that makes sense will only make them look more clownish. This case is done, stick a fork in it.

Did he also get the tattoo, then remove it and get it again years later?  These people, I swear...

[BnPac]

9 hours ago, Vermillion said:

The accusations didn't surprise me nor the lack of the benefit of the doubt granted Jay-Z nor Beyonce given what she knew about him when they started dating and got married.

 

Just pathetic. 

The way you try to justify yourself and bring on Swifties every time to distract from your appealing behavior. 

 

So you know Jay-Z personally now, huh? Just a couple of weeks ago, you and the rest swore he raped this woman and countless other young girls, you knew it for certain because you've heard things. 

 

The idea that someone is both a pedophile and a rapist and it should be believed on faith because you have an awful opinion of them is maddening. 

And you bringing up a relative being assaulted is just as maddening because it's thanks to you and other losers in this thread that real victims are not believed all the time. 

 

Sickening behavior. 

[Arrogant]

She was on it from the beginning

 

 

[Kristie Kuwa]

35 minutes ago, BnPac said:

Just pathetic. 

The way you try to justify yourself and bring on Swifties every time to distract from your appealing behavior. 

 

So you know Jay-Z personally now, huh? Just a couple of weeks ago, you and the rest swore he raped this woman and countless other young girls, you knew it for certain because you've heard things. 

 

The idea that someone is both a pedophile and a rapist and it should be believed on faith because you have an awful opinion of them is maddening. 

And you bringing up a relative being assaulted is just as maddening because it's thanks to you and other losers in this thread that real victims are not believed all the time. 

 

Sickening behavior. 

Literally this. Im all for ATRL permabanning users like this. ATRL shouldnt be a place that invites people like this and gives them a platform. They are part of the reason why the internet is such a toxic place - to accuse someone of sth as horrible as rapping a minor for the sake of fanwars? Sick and deplorable.

[Park Jinyoung]

nnn I guess she could say she misremembered, and that it was actually the 2003 ceremony she attempted to attend, where not only did Good Charlotte, Diddy AND Jay Z perform, but also Fred Durst was in attendance. Getting the year/age wrong is not uncommon for those victimized. Although this could make her 16/17 depending on her birthday... I'm trying to keep an open mind still.

 

However... Jay Z and P. Diddy hosted separate after-after parties in 2003, according to this industry blog. If you click on the links, they 404. However if you google the titles it leads to their direct pages with descriptions of the parties :

 

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P. Diddy's Libido-Driven After-Party ()

With dangling acrobats, pole dancers and a bevy of other seductresses—including a lingerie-clad bar staff—planned for his much-anticipated MTV Video Music Awardsafter-party, Sean "P. Diddy" Combs didn't want his guests overheating. So at 10 AM on the morning of the event, he decided to blast 30 extra tons of air-conditioning into Show, the burlesque-themed Midtown club that set the scene for the night's sexiest extravaganza. An ever-solicitous host, Combs also pumped up the club's sound system with 20 additional speakers courtesy of Bad Boy Entertainment, ensuring that the stylings of DJ Cassidy and DJ Clue—and Diddy's own impromptu turn at the mic—would keep the neighbors up all night long.

 

https://www.bizbash.com/production-strategy/event-production-fabrication/media-gallery/13470894/p-diddys-libidodriven-afterparty

 

Jay-Z Has Golden Girls at His Party

They looked nothing like the moon man awards given out at the MTV Video Music Awards, but event firm Artist Exposure posed five models painted gold from head to toe to look like trophies at Jay-Z's after-party. (It's probably best not to explore the symbolism.) The motionless models were gilded by Party Productions NYCmakeup artist Karl Giant and bathed in lavender light at the rapper's new hip-hop flavored sports bar, 40/40.

 

https://www.bizbash.com/production-strategy/event-production-fabrication/media-gallery/13470895/jayz-has-golden-girls-at-his-party

So right off the bat, Jay Z and Diddy were at different locations after the VMAs. Jay Z's party was at his club 40/40 (Flatiron) while Diddy's was at some unnamed Midtown venue. Diddy stopped by the official after party which was at the Four Seasons, then went to his own after-after event. There are pictures on the blog showing Diddy at his party, but it doesn't give a time. Here are some pictures of Jay Z and Beyonce at their after-after party at 40/40 club. Beyonce is wearing the same outfit she walked the red carpet in, but Jay Z seems to have changed from his stage outfit (can't seem to find proof of him walking the red carpet). So it's likely they went from the awards show straight to the club, which wouldn't leave much time in the timeline established by the alleged victim. Like I said I'm trying to keep an open mind but even if the year changes, unless there is metadata in these pictures contradicting his alibi, it's not looking too good.

[Arrogant]

5 minutes ago, Park Jinyoung said:

nnn I guess she could say she misremembered, and that it was actually the 2003 ceremony she attempted to attend, where not only did Good Charlotte, Diddy AND Jay Z perform, but also Fred Durst was in attendance. Getting the year/age wrong is not uncommon for those victimized. Although this could make her 16/17 depending on her birthday... I'm trying to keep an open mind still.

 

However... Jay Z and P. Diddy hosted separate after-after parties in 2003, according to this industry blog. If you click on the links, they 404. However if you google the titles it leads to their direct pages with descriptions of the parties :

 

So right off the bat, Jay Z and Diddy were at different locations after the VMAs. Jay Z's party was at his club 40/40 (Flatiron) while Diddy's was at some unnamed Midtown venue. Diddy stopped by the official after party which was at the Four Seasons, then went to his own after-after event. There are pictures on the blog showing Diddy at his party, but it doesn't give a time. Here are some pictures of Jay Z and Beyonce at their after-after party at 40/40 club. Beyonce is wearing the same outfit she walked the red carpet in, but Jay Z seems to have changed from his stage outfit (can't seem to find proof of him walking the red carpet). So it's likely they went from the awards show straight to the club, which wouldn't leave much time in the timeline established by the alleged victim. Like I said I'm trying to keep an open mind but even if the year changes, unless there is metadata in these pictures contradicting his alibi, it's not looking too good.

And her father still can't remember ever making that 10+ hour drive. After the Good Charlotte fumble, this is the next big piece of damning evidence.

 

Also, after more than 20 years to process what happened to you, how are you even still confused about whether you were 13 or 16 when it happened? It should be one of the least confusing aspects of your story. It's just so sketchy no matter how you look at it.

[Wicked]

Jay-Z's Lawyer Says Rape Case is "Provably Demonstrably False"

 

One day you're cruisin' in your 7, next day, you're sweatin', forgettin' your lies
Alibis ain't matchin' up, bullshit catchin' up

 

 

[Wicked]

15 hours ago, Arrogant said:

She was on it from the beginning

 

 

I don't know if the Mary J. Blige stuff will ever hold. A man already said when he was 15 Mary flew him out and they had relations, nobody believed him and it quietly went away.

[loveisdead9582]

So… looks like this was a big bag of bullshit from the get go?

[FLAallday]

The TikTok jourNOlists need to hang it up with the desperate reaching to connect dots that never existed. Hang it up, flatscreen!

[Sours]

On 12/15/2024 at 3:47 PM, Vermillion said:

@qurl Not gleeful about any of this. The accusations didn't surprise me nor the lack of the benefit of the doubt granted Jay-Z nor Beyonce given what she knew about him when they started dating and got married.

 

 

i've seen you a lot during the election thread and covid thread 

 

you've always been the first in breaking news or giving great updates on important subjects and mostly with great neutral-centered opinions which i agreed with 

 

this time was so different though, you immediately took a side and acted as if it was a stan war against beyoncé and jay-z? with something so serious as this? i didn't say anything when it started because I thought there was something you knew about this lawsuit or something, but now that it all came crashing down this is your response?  

 

what the hell 

[REDMAN]

 

[Vermillion]

The notion that Jay-Z didn't have a friendship with Diddy as the lawyer is implying is ludicrous.

 

And @TROPICUM if you wanted to not read any of my posts throughout the thread that's fine. I'm not going to be gaslit into the argument that the crimes he's committed are victimless just because it's nowhere near child rape, the former of which contributed to an environment where he wasn't given the benefit of the doubt that the Hive's never granted anyone. Stan wars implied a favoritism towards a different artist that I never brought up here by the way nor have seeing as the only other one I see getting mentioned constantly is Taylor who I've never given a damn about. News about her fanbase seems to make more noise here. People keep talking about bans here without reporting a damn post of mine because there's nothing to successfully report  They're not willing to make their argument which is not my problem.

 

You also clearly don't know me or my history on the Civics threads based on your characterization but if you want to take it there to clarify your point be my guest.

[Lovett]

The way everyone just ran from this thread as soon as the story started falling apart, yet they're in other threads still claiming he's a rapist. Disgusting.