modeblock Posted December 4 Posted December 4 1 hour ago, Vermillion said: Although the story of someone being denied coverage is much sexier for David v. Goliath framing I now think this was just an investor Okay, but can we still have a little revolution as a treat? 1
Vermillion Posted December 4 Author Posted December 4 5 minutes ago, modeblock said: Okay, but can we still have a little revolution as a treat? Hey, the wife still thinks it was someone that was denied coverage, so you have that to hang your hat on. I don't buy the notion they'd spend their nonexistent money on an assassin, but have at it. 1
CandyCoatedClouds Posted December 5 Posted December 5 Regardless of whether this was an inside hit, or a disgruntled customer of UHC, I still hope it inspires people. Not to kill, but not take anything lying down. We've been over in the us for a long time with blinders on, while the rich and powerful have been stealing right in front of us. Now the blinders have been pulled from our eyes and we recognize the world we live in. That revolution can't come soon enough. I want CEOs to be not feel as though they are above us, let them be a little spooked by this event. Politicians too. 13 2 1 1
NEUTRON Posted December 5 Posted December 5 6 hours ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said: Watch BlueCross BlueShield be next after that press release earlier... I see it 1 1
Relampago. Posted December 5 Posted December 5 Imma keep it cute and say that I hope this is just the start of some very important changes for many underprivileged people in the United States. Simultaneously a bit nervous, but you can only piss so many people off for so long before it comes back around. 11 1
JanStan Posted December 5 Posted December 5 Can someone connect the dots for me? How is murdering this guy gonna improve the healthcare system? Reforming the system by actually voting for candidates who aren't bought off by lobbyists seems like a better solution? And if people showed the same passion for healthcare reform that they did for trying to get Ticketmaster to lower prices for Taylor Swift tickets maybe something would get done. But go off with the fake outrage I guess. 6 1 3
harwee Posted December 5 Posted December 5 1 hour ago, CandyCoatedClouds said: Regardless of whether this was an inside hit, or a disgruntled customer of UHC, I still hope it inspires people. Not to kill, but not take anything lying down. We've been over in the us for a long time with blinders on, while the rich and powerful have been stealing right in front of us. Now the blinders have been pulled from our eyes and we recognize the world we live in. That revolution can't come soon enough. I want CEOs to be not feel as though they are above us, let them be a little spooked by this event. Politicians too. Lets not get carried away. Nothing will change except maybe sales of bulletproof limos and helicopters. 4
CandyCoatedClouds Posted December 5 Posted December 5 5 minutes ago, JanStan said: Can someone connect the dots for me? How is murdering this guy gonna improve the healthcare system? Reforming the system by actually voting for candidates who aren't bought off by lobbyists seems like a better solution? And if people showed the same passion for healthcare reform that they did for trying to get Ticketmaster to lower prices for Taylor Swift tickets maybe something would get done. But go off with the fake outrage I guess. Ticket master and Health insurance companies are not the same by any means. You won't die if Tickemaster up charges you (even though you don't deserve it) but you will die if a health insurance company denies you for a medicine that could save your life, or giving you a medical bill that leads you to bankruptcy. Health insurance has been a long standing issue in the us and millions, not hundreds, not thousands, but millions have died preventable death or have gone into medical bankruptcy at the hands of the rich and powerful and those who have been bought by the rich and powerful. This one incident is not a fix within itself., it may even be a one off incident. However, there's also the possibility that this could lead us into reach change where people are so afraid, they give us the leathcare we deserve. 1 2
MatiRod Posted December 5 Posted December 5 Nobody should encourage this kind of thing. What if someone innocent on the street had been shot instead by accident?
CandyCoatedClouds Posted December 5 Posted December 5 7 minutes ago, harwee said: Lets not get carried away. Nothing will change except maybe sales of bulletproof limos and helicopters. For now, who knows what the future holds. Eventually people won't just be saying "Eat the Rich" they'll be out in the streets actually doing it. Anarchy is only nine missed meals away. 3
wulmite Posted December 5 Posted December 5 when i used to work at a answering service for dental offices no one would take united healthcare and we would get patients who had already called 15, 20 offices trying to find one who took it it's garbage 1
Cherish Posted December 5 Posted December 5 11 hours ago, Cherish said: some people deserve to be assassinated, sorry Still valid 1
Minto Posted December 5 Posted December 5 (edited) some of you guys do realise that you don't have to extend tolerance to a man who's career has ruined/destroyed millions of lives…violence is bad, yes? but it's not like despicable, wealthhoarding, void of morality CEO's are getting shot everyday… Edited December 5 by Minto 14
Communion Posted December 5 Posted December 5 57 minutes ago, JanStan said: Can someone connect the dots for me? How is murdering this guy gonna improve the healthcare system? It's not. Immense suffering just creates a hotbed for meaningful resentment. This is just a moment where the contradictions in our political system are at odds where politicians who got paid by UHC's lobbyists mourn a random CEO while the average American on Facebook finds this to be funny and is making "preauthorization required" jokes. This is just timed with Democrats facing historical embarrassment and trying to find which waves of populism to ride. Even a fake populist like Chris Murphy is tweeting the below: 3
hawx23 Posted December 5 Posted December 5 11 hours ago, Vegvisir said: Girl just stop. You're not winning any awards for mourning a key person responsible for hundreds of millions of americans either saddled with impossible medical debt or denied coverage. The rest of the world sees healthcare as a basic human right and not a means for profit. Heads will roll one day for what the top 1% have done to America, and I think we're seeing the beginnings of that snowball effect now. Yes so maybe tax billionaires 99.9% of their earnings and put that into healthcare or defund DOD and put all that money into hospitals. None of that has anything to do with celebrating someone's murder. 6
XDNA Posted December 5 Posted December 5 The pearl-clutching and boot licking for a healthcare CEO. Not condoning this, but also like the new first lady would say, "I don't really care?" The 1%ers have been flaunting their wealth while most people can barely get by. Maybe some of them (who influence politics btw) will get less greedy if they fear a revolt from the masses. 3 2 1
Hurem Posted December 5 Posted December 5 I will never feel bad for a CEO of an American health insurance company 7
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