Popular Post wastedpotential Posted December 10 Popular Post Posted December 10 24 minutes ago, CoolNebraskaGuy said: My only sorrow regarding this sh*tshow is that I doubt anything meaningful will come of it. The public consciousness will move on soon enough and we will continue allowing ourselves to be ravaged by these corporations I'm not sure if this particular incident will lead directly to positive change, but there's no way this genie is going back in the bottle. The metaphorical snowball has started rolling, and there will continue to be copycat attacks (I can't say how many will be successful, but I'm confident this will lead to more attempts). Maybe there truly is no number of elites in scummy business models who can be targeted to enact change and we'll descend into something a lot messier, but there's no way to walk this back. The results may ultimately be a relatively positive, relatively peaceful, and relatively successful trustbusting progressive movement a la the Roosevelts (though... for the girlies pulling 1789 analogies out of their hats, I'd recommend giving some thought to what the following 50 years of French history looked like before endorsing that particular path of social change), or it could lead to a complete crackdown and tyranny (of which there are countless examples). The elites have very clearly lost sight of noblesse oblige, and the people seem about ready to try and remind them. Even in the worst case outcome, the immediate net good in my eyes is that it provides disaffected young men wanting to go out in a blaze of glory a better target than a classroom full of elementary students. 4 17
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 1 minute ago, nadiamendell said: It's sad, but true. The public will move on without some kind of real movement. He seems to have had good intentions, but the judge will likely throw the book at this guy and they'll try to make an example of him. Standing up to powerful forces is a dangerous game to play. It's been fun making memes, but in the end I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him too, but something tells me he's not looking for pity. It seems he wants to inspire others. 4
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 (edited) Double post Edited December 10 by CoolNebraskaGuy
Saddy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, Illyboy said: omg it isn't loading aaaa atrl work cmonnnn 1
Illyboy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saddy said: bye i hid the post bc the tweet took super long to load so i thought it was bugged, tysm nevertheless!! edit: most likely an issue on my side btw (no shade on atrl), bandwidth tends to slow down at this time of the day in my place idk why Edited December 10 by Illyboy 1
Illyboy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said: oh he's lame af nah he's got a point. Minors cant get cigarettes or travel* alone, why shouldn't the same apply to porn? edit: * I mean like airports and other large forms of travel afaik yes they can ride a bus or a bike but I don't think he meant that either Edited December 10 by Illyboy 1
DAP Posted December 10 Posted December 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, CallumDavies said: Not the ones that are dead, obviously. This is a genuine and fundamental question about the society we want to live in. If you think it is okay, and in fact preferable, for ANYONE to murder ANY CEO of a healthcare company, where does the line get drawn? If someone believes in something as passionately as you do about access to healthcare, but in something you disagree with. For example, climate change is real, trans are human rights etc. Whatever it is. Do you also then agree that is okay for them to kill anyone they think as responsible for those systems and movements? As citizens, we should not want be individual arbiters of morality. If we take that power for ourselves, we give that to everyone. Including dangerous people we disagree with. The system isn't perfect. It protects the wrong people sometimes. But that is the compromise to live in a fairer, safer society than the alternative, lawless anarchy. We are at this point because the capitalism we live under is failing everyone and will continue to fail everyone so long as their frustrations are being ignored. People can be both accountable to their behavior and influenced by forces beyond their control (like disparities in power). They aren't mutually independent and, in fact, are often related, and this context matters. These CEOs like Brian Thompson wield complete control over our lives and use violence as a means to preserve their hegemony. You don't think this affects how a person behaves? Let alone someone desperate? If you are denied healthcare because it is deemed too expensive to cover by your insurance, get sick, inundated with costs, and bankrupted or dispossessed, you don't think this will overwhelm someone? This man isn't even poor but was radicalized because he endured some of the same exploitation that defines most people's existence. This goes beyond some petty disagreement of opinion where each party is assumed equal. Climate activists and trans rights leaders are vulnerable and they don't inherit the motives or autonomy of a CEO, what kind of analogy is that? If we want to live in a better society, then part of that entails observing reality for what it is. We aren't equal, we don't live in an egalitarian society, but one where class dictates a person's position of power. The freest among us are perpetrators of the most heinous crimes of humanity (including some of these CEOs) that will never be fully scrutinized under our current system. Thompson's crimes of extortion aren't receiving even a fraction of the coverage of Mangione despite inflicting more harm than this single act of murder ever could. We do not need to nor should we respect this "compromise". Edited December 10 by DAP 1 11
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 (edited) 24 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: I'm not sure if this particular incident will lead directly to positive change, but there's no way this genie is going back in the bottle. The metaphorical snowball has started rolling, and there will continue to be copycat attacks (I can't say how many will be successful, but I'm confident this will lead to more attempts). Maybe there truly is no number of elites in scummy business models who can be targeted to enact change and we'll descend into something a lot messier, but there's no way to walk this back. The results may ultimately be a relatively positive, relatively peaceful, and relatively successful trustbusting progressive movement a la the Roosevelts (though... for the girlies pulling 1789 analogies out of their hats, I'd recommend giving some thought to what the following 50 years of French history looked like before endorsing that particular path of social change), or it could lead to a complete crackdown and tyranny (of which there are countless examples). The elites have very clearly lost sight of noblesse oblige, and the people seem about ready to try and remind them. Even in the worst case outcome, the immediate net good in my eyes is that it provides disaffected young men wanting to go out in a blaze of glory a better target than a classroom full of elementary students. Finally, someone who understands how apocalyptic the French Revolution was!! Like, part of it was called "The Reign of Terror" for a reason y'all FWIW, the French have one of the better democracies of our time, in no small part because of the Revolution. The question is, do you want to be part of the generation that attempts to press the reset button on your government? Because there's a substantial chance you won't be alive to see the result. It's cynical but I think this leads to, like you said, a complete crackdown and tyranny. The USA is more likely to go in a tsarist Russia direction than it is to go back to it's square deal or new deal roots ala the Roosevelts. We Americans are ready for our Caesar, insofar as they ensure access to increasingly-hypnotizing algorithims and cheap garbage Edited December 10 by CoolNebraskaGuy 3
BeenTheShit Posted December 10 Posted December 10 Dear John (TV) and my tears ricochet. The taste jumped out!
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 3 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Dear John (TV) and my tears ricochet. The taste jumped out! So this man isn't straight then? This playlist gay asf
BeenTheShit Posted December 10 Posted December 10 4 minutes ago, CoolNebraskaGuy said: So this man isn't straight then? This playlist gay asf Based on his social media, people concluded he wasn't straight shortly after his arrest yesterday.
fa77ot Posted December 10 Posted December 10 11 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Dear John (TV) and my tears ricochet. The taste jumped out! Cruel World, Black Beauty and White Mustang oh wow 2
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted December 10 Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Based on his social media, people concluded he wasn't straight shortly after his arrest yesterday. I haven't seen his social media, please fill me in
ChatshireCat Posted December 10 Posted December 10 He commented in the r/IBS subreddit, he's def one of us 1 10
Domination Posted December 10 Posted December 10 10 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Based on his social media, people concluded he wasn't straight shortly after his arrest yesterday. There's no evidence he was bisexual. Gays spreading lies on social media ain't gonna cut it 3
PrettyHurts Posted December 10 Posted December 10 49 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Mangione's attorney said: "I've seen zero evidence" that his client is the shooter. #LUIGIINNOCENT 1
perfect blue Posted December 11 Posted December 11 2 minutes ago, Domination said: There's no evidence he was bisexual. Gays spreading lies on social media ain't gonna cut it Stanning Pokemon and Charli XCX was all the evidence I needed. 6
Capris Groove Posted December 11 Posted December 11 1 hour ago, artc0cx said: Still amazed at how hot he is, the full body picture, average body hot face, thats how I liked them lord Omg I'm a beluga. 5
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