Ariana Grande to address bodyshaming in a new interview releasing today

[Feanor]

1 hour ago, Truth Teller said:

Cynthia serving "oui oui baguette" broken French to make the interviewer like her more. She just couldn't help it, could she?

 

I first read this comment and then watched the video. the way I screamed…

 

[Cruel Summer]

My only hope, other than people leaving her to address things in her own way and at her own pace if indeed there is anything to address and she wants to do so, is that she is doing okay. That's the most important thing. I would hate to find out that she was going through something unimaginably difficult the whole time while being pressured to talk about it by the entire internet.

[Mitsouko]

These two homewrecking bandits are awful people regardless of their BMI

[kimberly]

5 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

These two homewrecking bandits are awful people regardless of their BMI

did you even have a home if it came down so easily 

 

they did their partners' exes a favor, really, by saving them from people who weren't fully committed to them. I never understood the "homewrecker" narrative as it usually pertains to women alone. in each of their cases, two consenting adults chose to ditch their exes and be together instead. we as the audience have nothing at stake?

 

OT: she looks extremely frail — it's silly to pretend she doesn't. but it's none of our business, really. as long as she says she's healthy, I have no reason to suspect otherwise.

[family.guy123]

Address why you licked the doughnut, Ariana. You've yet to explain this. 

[Riverbank]

People can pretend not to spot the obvious but we all have eyes. That being said, I truly hope she has a support system and gets help if she's dealing with something serious.

[Sawk]

End the skinnyphobes Arianka 

[Xalric]

Let's talk real for 2 minute, healthy or not, do you think it's easy for someone with body dismorphia (not saying she suffering from it) being pinpointed all your life, you were too fat then and now you're too skinny. 

[AlbumOfTheYear]

1 hour ago, Zaynsus said:

Funny how the haters are the ones pointing out that she's "unhealthy", pretending that they're "worried" about her when they just do that to make fun and bodyshame her. Please OAHs, do humanity a favour and go jump off a cliff.

 

 

 

And its not fake concern when you've been around a person who has issues with what she seems to have, which is why I'm not a fan anymore and cannot condone either her gaslighting or taking photos that are clearly body checks. Even when I was a fan her diet was constantly shown off the SC moonlightbae account and it was quite literally a pile of vegetables. Her old tumblr also detailed her diet with odd "weight loss" tips that are markers of certain communities. 

 

people pretending this is just stan war hate are just turning their eyes away. And I assume its with good intentions, but let's not play stupid either. I sincerely hope that she will not be a Karen Carpenter because that's a life lost no matter how I feel about her.

 

Thanks for keeping it classy by telling us to kill ourselves. 

Edited 21 hours ago by AlbumOfTheYear

[Rotunda]

37 minutes ago, kimberly said:

did you even have a home if it came down so easily 

 

they did their partners' exes a favor, really, by saving them from people who weren't fully committed to them. I never understood the "homewrecker" narrative as it usually pertains to women alone. in each of their cases, two consenting adults chose to ditch their exes and be together instead. we as the audience have nothing at stake?

 

OT: she looks extremely frail — it's silly to pretend she doesn't. but it's none of our business, really. as long as she says she's healthy, I have no reason to suspect otherwise.

I get what you're saying, but I will say having one of the biggest and richest pop stars on the planet into your husband isn't the same thing as competing with Shonda from Accounting  

[ariananext]

It's always the ones who hate on her the most around here who urge her to talk about her presumed eating disorder, as if, for them, this isn't something like another chart drag or whatever they've hold on to to **** on her in the past 10 years.

 

I honestly don't understand why anyone thinks she owes her fans an explanation about this. As someone who's been a fan since the beginning, I've seen this conversation come up over and over again, with people saying the same things since 2013. Still, I don't think she should feel obligated to talk about her body, her weight, or her eating habits at all. If, as a fan, you feel like she needs to address it, that's something you need to work through yourself because you're crossing some boundaries. We all want her to be healthy, but talking about it won't change anything factually. She's never expressed her wish to be a role model, and actually let me remind you, this is the first year in nearly six years that she's made herself publicly visible again. After everything she's been through she's made it clear she just wants to do her job and then go back into hiding. If you can't respect that, then that's on you, not her.

 

As I said a thousand times, I don't understand what people (and casually it's mostly her biggest haters on here) want her to about this issue, IF she has an ED what are we as fans supposed to do? Feed her, send her to rehab? She's a millionaire with a great great family and support system, she doesn't need our nor your opinions, you should start caring more about people around you who may need you instead of expressing fake concern over celebrities you don't even like.

[midnightdawn]

They seem emotionally unstable the way they cry in every interview

[ariananext]

17 minutes ago, Rotunda said:

I get what you're saying, but I will say having one of the biggest and richest pop stars on the planet into your husband isn't the same thing as competing with Shonda from Accounting  

My co-worker has a rich husband who's the CEO of a big company, a couple of months ago at the airport he met one of the biggest celebrities of our country, a millionaire who had just separated from her husband. He was minding his business and she approached him asking info about the book he was reading, she even went as far as following him on social media (mind you she has almost 30 million followers on IG) despite knowing he was married with kids, and happily. He didn't even follow her back nor did he react to her attempts to flirt. Let's stop pretending like she's forced someone to leave their family. If your partner leaves you for the first cute girl that approaches him, no matter how rich, you have a big issue regardless of the specific case.

Edited 21 hours ago by ariananext

[Rotunda]

10 minutes ago, ariananext said:

My co-worker has a rich husband who's the CEO of a big company, a couple of months ago at the airport he met one of the biggest celebrities of our countries, a millionaire who had just separated from her husband. He was minding his business and she approached him asking info about the book he was reading, she even went as far as following him on social media (mind you she has almost 30 million followers on IG) despite knowing he was married with kids, and happily. He didn't even follow her back nor did she react to her attempts to flirt. Let's stop pretending like she's forced someone to leave their family. If your partner leaves you for the first cute girl that approaches him, no matter how rich, you have a big issue regardless of the specific case.

Maybe try engaging with what was said instead of making up arguments because you're so engrossed in Standom that it's compromised your ability to read. 

Nobody thinks Ariana forced Ethan to wreck his family. I just got a personal laugh out of mentally comparing someone trying to compete with a popstar for their man's attention with someone trying to compete with a random classmate/coworker.

Edited 21 hours ago by Rotunda

[BlondGuts]

Maybe she's just vegan. I know lots of vegans who look like that

[ImpressMeMuch]

2 hours ago, nostalgic said:

Whether it's obese or anorexic, the media has set a horrible example with the way they try to gaslight us that looking like that is healthy. Shaming and degradation is wrong, genuine concern is a natural reaction.

Concern about a stranger you don't know isn't very normal when there are many things it could be. You never know what someone's going through or the reality of their situation and people's bodies should be their own business. Someone who looks super healthy can be deeply unhealthy in other ways, etc.

[ImpressMeMuch]

1 hour ago, family.guy123 said:

Address why you licked the doughnut, Ariana. You've yet to explain this. 

Time and place girl, no

[Wicked]

1 hour ago, Mitsouko said:

These two homewrecking bandits are awful people regardless of their BMI

It's Cynthia's xenophobia towards Black Americans despite playing us in film and TV for me. 

[Blade Runner]

Cynthia has to be the cringiest person ever. I can't with that woman. So much talent, but whew... 

[RiseAndShine]

This is the same woman who staged a fake polygraph test to lie about never having surgery despite the obvious face transplant. Said she stopped doing botox years ago, yet has a frozen face everytime she tries to cry.

 

Ok girl, hope you stay as healthy as you are.

[Material Girl]

truly don't understand the narrative that she has some sort of eating disorder or that she looks 'frail' when she looks happy and healthy in all of her latest public appearances

 

people will post unflattering photos in bad lighting trying to prove their point and it's just ridiculous. she's a small girl who has always been relatively thin, unless a family member or someone close to her says different then it's really not anything deeper than that 

[AvadaKedavra]

I don't see the need for this. She looks perfect as she is. Absolutely gorgeous. She looks very healthy. The vegan diet is doing wonders for her. I want her body because I've been looking muy "masudo" lately. She looks a bit more gaunt with her new theatrical makeup, but I think she looks classier and more refined than before.

She looked like a high school teen in the past and now she looks like a grown up woman. Like a legendary operatic diva
No ariana keep doin your thing. Youre doin great mom   ignore everyone


 

Edited 20 hours ago by AvadaKedavra

[Communion]

2 hours ago, DevilsRollTheDice said:

This might come out convoluted because it's a complex thought I'm struggling to express, but I think a lot of modern political correctness is constantly paradoxically at odds with itself. On one hand, you want to say you should never comment on peoples' bodies and that makes sense and seems intuitive and well meaning. On the other, not having public discourse about issues that have such serious consequences, especially for young women, seems harmful. Similar to gray areas like SW and plastic surgery. It's easy to frame everything as empowering or private decisions, but that's the same framing some people use to justify their defense of trad wife culture. None of this exists in a vacuum. Humans are highly social animals and lots of our behavior is subject to social contagion. 
 

I'd be mortified to be in Ariana's shoes and have thousands of people commenting on my body. I've struggled with disordered eating my whole adult life and hate when people tell me I looked unhealthy. She's still an individual. She's also a celebrity that many young people idolize and look up to. Idk, this is a hard one. I have compassion for her and don't think insulting her or blaming her is the answer (just like insulting or blaming obese people is wrong), but pushing this idea that these extreme weights can be healthy (mirror of obesity here, again) does damage too.
 

Curious to see her full answer. 

By the same token, other users acting as though someone owes them the reality of their medical records is illogical praxis.

 

Society can push back on the prominency of eating disorders by fighting back on the popularity of thinness that has become chic again and holding firm that disordered eating and the kind of behavior that is encouraged to become both financially, sexually, physically, etc. desirable and commodifiable is wrong.

 

I don't mean to appear like I'm prodding you here, since we have gone back and forth over other issues, but I just quote you because your post itself even with good intentions conflates the issue into being about abstract ideas of "healthiness", which only obscures it back to an individual issue. Not an issue of systematic pressure and incentive in society where a very specific body type is rewarded and, quite often, it is encouraged to sacrifice health to gain a body you can turn into a product desired by others. 

 

One won't have to worry about whether Ariana Grande or any other woman is too thin if there becomes a point where there's not societal pressure and coercion to become thin via disordered eating. 

[judasmonster]

sorry but anyone saying she looks unhealthy is delusional and does not actually care about her wellbeing because y'all don't actually know her. The echo chamber on twitter and TikTok spreading this about her does not make it real. For those who say she is so sickly looking now then what is the ideal body you are assuming she should have? Notice how that is already a gross thing to ask as we should not be dictating how anyone should look. If she says she's healthier now than she was before then its best for others to mind their business and leave her alone.

[DevilsRollTheDice]

38 minutes ago, Communion said:

By the same token, other users acting as though someone owes them the reality of their medical records is illogical praxis.

 

Society can push back on the prominency of eating disorders by fighting back on the popularity of thinness that has become chic again and holding firm that disordered eating and the kind of behavior that is encouraged to become both financially, sexually, physically, etc. desirable and commodifiable is wrong.

 

I don't mean to appear like I'm prodding you here, since we have gone back and forth over other issues, but I just quote you because your post itself even with good intentions conflates the issue into being about abstract ideas of "healthiness", which only obscures it back to an individual issue. Not an issue of systematic pressure and incentive in society where a very specific body type is rewarded and, quite often, it is encouraged to sacrifice health to gain a body you can turn into a product desired by others. 

 

One won't have to worry about whether Ariana Grande or any other woman is too thin if there becomes a point where there's not societal pressure and coercion to become thin via disordered eating. 

I'm picking up what you're putting down here. 
 

I still struggle with how you separate those larger societal norms and pressures from people who determine what is valuable and desirable in society. Celebrities, influencers, etc. Systemic issues are upheld by individuals and celebrities and influencers hold an inordinate amount of power here as the center of culture and desirability. They're also under inordinate pressure. 
 

It's also a vicious cycle where one feeds the other. What came first, the exemplar of "desirable" or the pressure to meet that standard? How can one exist without the other? And how do we dismantle societal pressure without individuals (especially those in the seat of power) taking action to do so?

I'll be frank, I really struggle with this topic, questions are genuine! 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by DevilsRollTheDice