Why the Eternal Sunshine era is being completely ignored by the industry?

[OrgVisual]

23 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

Because the album was also completely ignored in real life too. If it weren't for WCBF, the album would have nothing going on for it. 

 

Yes And was #1 because of her fan base and quickly died down the charts. 

The album had okay-ish debut numbers. 

 

People were just not invested during this era. 

Not you again 

 

Spotify Daily Streams:

- Eternal Sunshine: 6.1M - WCBF (2.1M) = 4M / 12 (10 tracks + 1 intro + 1 interlude) = 333k streams per track

- TTPD: 10.6M / 31 tracks = 340k streams per track

 

[ImpressMeMuch]

1 minute ago, OrgVisual said:

Not you again 

 

 

 

[Feanor]

It just wasn't a particularly noticeable era among all the other big eras that happened this year. 

[BrokenMachine]

I'm guessing her, her label, and her team didn't want to take the focus out of the Wicked project. They released the album to please the fans before the movie, but her main focus was always Wicked

[Mrnoniee]

You mean the album whose Lead single is OUTSTREAMED by literally album tracks of Billie & Taylor???

Yes and? was a COLLOSAL Flop
Like Lady Gaga single level BOMB
and no, hitting #1 doesn't make it a hit

It had We Can Be Friends a Radio Fodder song did decently 
but like the song and the whole era was super generic
No change in her image/sound, no risk at all

You want Industry to give her flowers for her BASIC-RY?

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she's past her prime and Billie stole everyone's shine this year (Ariana's era is not the only HMHAS has EATEN)

Edited 5 hours ago by Mrnoniee

[byzantium]

Because she has been overshadowed by herself as Glinda.  

[BrokenMachine]

2 minutes ago, Mrnoniee said:

You mean the album whose Lead single is OUTSTREAMED by literally album tracks of Billie & Taylor???

So currently her only competition right now are those two women? Good to know 

[Fitzswiftie]

52 minutes ago, thatsmydemi said:

As a casual Ariana listener, she's at fault for this. It's one of the risks of not promoting your stuff. There was a point in which her album was completely forgotten because there was nothing going on. This time, unlike her previous eras, she's been competing against many new and exciting pop artists exploding and rising, so she's been completely overshadowed. 

She's been on Jimmy Fallon like five times this year and only once for Wicked. How is that not promoting.

[ariesgroove]

i love ariana so much and eternal sunshine is a top 3 album for me this year, i really do feel like arianators are being a bit dramatic about all this to say the least

[Smarticle]

The public saw her addressing her homewrecking allegations with yes, and?, then crying about her divorce in WCBF, then going back to TBIM, and something didn't add up

[jjmed59]

id be mad but for some reason her crossing over successfully into film acting just makes her way more legendary than any of these other things would. theres a reason the girls are always trying to launch their acting careers. you acquire a certain PRESTIGE when you do it right. and very few have accomplished it to this level  (critical acclaim AND box office smashery)

Edited 4 hours ago by jjmed59

[BrokenMachine]

8 minutes ago, Smarticle said:

The public saw her addressing her homewrecking allegations with yes, and?, then crying about her divorce in WCBF, then going back to TBIM, and something didn't add up

The album is inspired by early 00s imagery, and overall by the Eternal Sunshine movie, not by her personal life 

[Abracadabra]

11 minutes ago, Fitzswiftie said:

She's been on Jimmy Fallon like five times this year and only once for Wicked. How is that not promoting.

This lie  She's been on his show twice, once 3 months after ES came out, and once for Wicked.

[skeeyee]

Oh well she focused on her EGOT, which is understandable

as a Beyoncé fan my sympathy for her not promoting is limited. 
but this is among if not her best album.. so she should get SOME awards 

[Fitzswiftie]

3 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

This lie  She's been on his show twice, once 3 months after ES came out, and once for Wicked.

You right, my apologies.

 

The five times I thought it was on JF were TBIM performance (didn't realise this was the same night) and the Zane Lowe / Zach Sang interviews.

[bielneira]

Because the media doesn't have taste apparently. She released one of the best pop albums this year. 

[Zaynsus]

48 minutes ago, OrgVisual said:

Not you again 

 

Spotify Daily Streams:

- Eternal Sunshine: 6.1M - WCBF (2.1M) = 4M / 12 (10 tracks + 1 intro + 1 interlude) = 333k streams per track

- TTPD: 10.6M / 31 tracks = 340k streams per track

 

The way they keep spamming the same BS over and over again in every Ariana-related thread, like a ******* bot. At this point, I don't even bother to read their posts anymore, I just click dislike and go. Like what's the point ? 

[Reginald]

Wholeartedly agree, I am surprised to see Eternal Sunshine being pretty much overlooked. That album was great

[ariananext]

I don't think the reason is promo itself, she did more appearances and performances for ES compared to Thank U, Next and Positions, if anything, it was all condensed into one week and then nothing, the era was kinda over by the end of march, hadn't it been for TBIM's video.

 

I think things could've been handled better, and while I don't believe it was made just to make fans shut up (ES is the album she's been the most involved with creatively - she's the only songwriter apart from Max Martin and his producers, in that case she would've done the bare minimum) it was clearly going to be a short parenthesis as Wicked time was about to come, it's clearly not her focus right now. She'll probably pick up the era again in february or something.

[ImpressMeMuch]

3 minutes ago, ariananext said:

I don't think the reason is promo itself, she did more appearances and performances for ES compared to Thank U, Next and Positions, if anything, it was all condensed into one week and then nothing, the era was kinda over by the end of march, hadn't it been for TBIM's video.

 

I think things could've been handled better, and while I don't believe it was made just to make fans shut up (ES is the album she's been the most involved with creatively - she's the only songwriter apart from Max Martin and his producers, in that case she would've done the bare minimum) it was clearly going to be a short parenthesis as Wicked time was about to come, it's clearly not her focus right now. She'll probably pick up the era again in february or something.

It also was, importantly, a loophole for her to artistically discuss her personal drama and help right the conversation  about her in the press!

[Rabbit]

Imagine "flopping" with two number one singles and an album that has over 3.4 billion streams  

[sailor angel]

I lowkey think part of the issue is that she tapped into her introspective singer-songwriter bag at the wrong time. The zeitgeist in 2024 wanted fun, meaningless pop music back and Ariana - someone's who's known for serving fun, catchy bops - instead opted for a mid tempo, moodier album so the public chose the new girls (Chappell, Sabrina, Charli) who delivered on that front instead of Ariana. Releasing a slow introspective album works for someone like Taylor rn cause swifties put their money where their mouth is and buy albums no matter what, but arianators don't really do that. Also the only upbeat fun song was YA which just wasn't that good so the gp looked elsewhere. I think if this album came out two years ago or last year it would've smashed harder.

[bad guy]

The Spotify logos for Megan's flop and Olivia's deluxe (both producing zero hits) and that other random Don Toliver album is definitely weird, but that's probably a team thing because ES was bigger than those. Maybe her team ignored Spotify's emails idk

 

[Kimi]

Because we had Brat, Midwest Princess, Cowboy Carter, Hit Me Had And Soft, Short & Sweet, The Tortured Poets Department. All more memorable. 

[Bussea]

the album literally came and went. i don't understand why there's been so much discourse around it the last month because I don't think even Ariana herself cares about the album

Edited 3 hours ago by Bussea