LOTF Posted Friday at 07:46 PM Posted Friday at 07:46 PM I don't come back to COWBOY CARTER as much as I did Renaissance or Lemonade or Self titled but it is undeniably a good album. To hell whether she wrote it on her own or not, the final product is what matters. And even if she's not coming up with the songs herself, she's definitely making them her own and their lyrics are totally in line with who she is as a person so why the criticism? 3
getBusy Posted Friday at 07:49 PM Posted Friday at 07:49 PM I don't LOVE the album but now i want her to win AOTY just to see the haters seethe 1
Taylor fanboy Posted Friday at 07:50 PM Posted Friday at 07:50 PM 1 hour ago, swissman said: I agree that RENAISSANCE is a stronger album overall, but COWBOY CARTER is still very deserving. RENAISSANCE's 9 nominations aren't even that far behind. As an album it has less genre-play than COWBOY CARTER which accounts for CC's two more nominations. REN got nominations in Dance and R&B, whereas CC got nominations in Country, Americana, Pop, and Rap. I think Cowboy Carter as a concept album and body of work is better and the deserved noms show it. 4
TipToe Posted Friday at 07:59 PM Posted Friday at 07:59 PM Not surprised, she makes a point of being in good terms with this corrupted ceremony (only god knows why) and in return they acknowledge her efforts. CC is a great body of work. 1
makeme Posted Friday at 08:05 PM Posted Friday at 08:05 PM 1 hour ago, iHype. said: The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. The Grammys will move your submission if they do not see it fitting. This happened to Nicki and Doja in rap categories where they were moved to pop.
Maxxie Posted Friday at 08:35 PM Posted Friday at 08:35 PM If anyone pays attention to the Grammys anymore…they need their head checked. The music industry has been shown to be corrupt for years and Bey & Jay lead the pack. Cowboy Carter and TTPD made 0 noise outside deranged fans! 6 2 2
Erotica Posted Friday at 08:40 PM Posted Friday at 08:40 PM 3 hours ago, MusicIsMyMaster said: also adding that there was 0 visuals and no tour. This is not the VMAs, it's the Grammys. She doesn't need visuals or a tour. 2 1
B-Luke Posted Friday at 08:51 PM Posted Friday at 08:51 PM No. She delivered yet another excellent album that deserves to be rewarded accordingly. 3
Fleahive Posted Friday at 08:52 PM Posted Friday at 08:52 PM (edited) Your faves make 1 genre of music are thus limited to only the 3-4 main categories and pop/dance category which is extremely competitive. Beyoncé always has multiple genres of music and submits her well received album tracks into said categories which expands her nominations. Until your faves can successfully make r&b, country, pop, Americana, and rap all in the same album then don't expect them to have more than 6 nominations. Nominations ultimately don't matter unless you're winning them. She will lose all the main categories, pop, and likely country too. She will take home 1-2 wins. A Grammy darling is someone who consistently wins main categories Billie, Bruno, Taylor. At best Beyonce is an r&b Grammy darling she tends to sweep that category but this year she didn't receive a nomination. Lastly, stop moving the goal post. Being the most popular does not equate to who should win. You all said Beck deserved it and that Beyoncés self titled shouldn't win just for how much it sold. Then you said Adele deserved because he had the most successful album. Then you said Renaissance shouldn't win because of the amount of contributors. If H.E.R. can win song of the year for a song that had less than 1 million views for its music video at the time of its win, if Beck, and Jon Batiste can win after making no mainstream noise, anyone can be nominated and win. I Edited Friday at 08:52 PM by Fleahive 4 1
Fleahive Posted Friday at 08:58 PM Posted Friday at 08:58 PM 2 hours ago, iHype. said: The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. So you're telling me Spaghetti is a country song? How is it greedy if she's not the only person winning the Grammy? Do you know contributers also get Grammys? Do they not deserve an award for contributing to the highly acclaimed album? Sounds like you want to box people into one genre even if every song doesn't fit. Maybe you should actually listen to CC and see why that's an issue instead of raging over the fact that she got more nominations than your fave.
Where are you now? Posted Friday at 08:59 PM Posted Friday at 08:59 PM 23 minutes ago, Maxxie said: Cowboy Carter and TTPD made 0 noise outside deranged fans! Honey hate to break it to you but google "highest selling album of 2024"
Shelter Posted Friday at 09:03 PM Posted Friday at 09:03 PM 2 minutes ago, Where are you now? said: Honey hate to break it to you but google "highest selling album of 2024" And still no one cares. Midnights and TTPD are MID. 6
Maxxie Posted Friday at 09:07 PM Posted Friday at 09:07 PM 4 minutes ago, Where are you now? said: Honey hate to break it to you but google "highest selling album of 2024" Yeah because it's what…32 songs with 17 variants released again and again? The album is not going to be remembered. None of the songs are hits. The GP wouldn't know a single song off that album. Same with CC 4
Mezik Posted Friday at 09:08 PM Posted Friday at 09:08 PM Personally I wish RIIVERDANCE got submitted for a nomination instead, but I will forgive her team for not submitting it - the Grammys couldn't handle it's superiority. 3
redsbae Posted Friday at 09:40 PM Author Posted Friday at 09:40 PM 4 hours ago, Teen Spirit said: THE RACIST FUMES. THIS IS ALSO JUST ADMITTING THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE VERY FRAGILE AND HATE SEEING BW SUCCEED WHICH IS WHY THEY VOTED FOR TRUMP. NOT SURPRISED. TEA
redsbae Posted Friday at 09:43 PM Author Posted Friday at 09:43 PM The meltdowns in this thread are amazing. A black woman dominating 27 years into her career both critically and commercially just makes yall seethe! "She bought it", "her husband bought it", "payola" are only accusations when Beyonce is involved. If your fav led the pack, it be because of "talent" Beyonce is the star of our generation. Other girls have great BEAUTIFUL gowns but Beyonce is the moment. She's touched all genres, can tour stadiums, and is PRAISED BY LEGENDS. barba Streisand, Whitney Houston, Prince, Michael Jackson, Tina Turner, they all have given the crown to BEYONCE. 3 4
Kh-Loud Posted Friday at 09:46 PM Posted Friday at 09:46 PM Why are the stans of the horrible, dated and ears destroying track DAISIE so mad? Like I don't get it Your fave has zero acclaimed work so please know your place! 1
rebeltwat Posted Friday at 09:49 PM Posted Friday at 09:49 PM Genres... are a funny little concept aren't they 1
Where are you now? Posted Friday at 09:54 PM Posted Friday at 09:54 PM 42 minutes ago, Maxxie said: Yeah because it's what…32 songs with 17 variants released again and again? The album is not going to be remembered. None of the songs are hits. The GP wouldn't know a single song off that album. Same with CC It's not going to be remembered because Maxxie says so everyone! It sold 2.6 million its first week, BEFORE she was doing all the annoying variants with an extra live song. Every major artist on the planet does multiple variants, get over it (although i'm not sure variants existed back when your fav Rih last released anything)
aotwbys Posted Friday at 09:56 PM Posted Friday at 09:56 PM The Grammys snubbed Renaissance and now they're overcorrecting with these noms lmao
Jay07 Posted Friday at 10:11 PM Posted Friday at 10:11 PM Beyonce cannot game the nominations. Grammys have famously moved songs from R&B to pop if they felt it was more fitting. Literally take two seconds to look it up. 3
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