celeb news Beyonce leads Grammy nominations AGAIN… surprised?

[Pheromosa]

22 minutes ago, tshwark said:

Too late, the GP is finally seeing through all the PR and propaganda, and the comments on social media are already savage.

it's a good thing the GP doesn't get to vote

[Teen Spirit]

8 minutes ago, Taylor fanboy said:

That's more than REN yes?

So undeserved. UGH!!

[swissman]

We need to remember that this amount is in part because Beyoncé so brilliantly straddled genres that allowed her to receive nominations in multiple categories.

 

If you're mad at her total number, if you think your fave should have more, tell your fave to branch out and experiment in genres and see if they can then be recognized in those categories for making great music. If not, don't complain that someone else can and has.

[G.U.Y.]

According to the hive, everyone who disagrees with the excessive nominations Bey is getting is now racist?

 

 

[Tayman]

If this nominations would've been for Renaissance aka HER BEST ALBUM that would be fair, but for CC? ... 

[swissman]

People who can't see the quality of this album are saying more about themselves than the record itself, it seems.

[Mariano]

If you look carefully at the noms she got, she deserves all of them. It's just that she can fit in a lot of different genres. Bodyguard, Levi's Jeans are great. Spagetti deserves melodic rap performance too. And CC and Texas obviously deserve their noms even more. Hope she wins AOTY this time, but if she doesn't it's not a big deal Grammys are obvi not very reliable nowadays.

 

 

[Ivan_brit]

How many gernes did she submit this year??

[swissman]

8 minutes ago, Tayman said:

If this nominations would've been for Renaissance aka HER BEST ALBUM that would be fair, but for CC? ... 

I agree that RENAISSANCE is a stronger album overall, but COWBOY CARTER is still very deserving. RENAISSANCE's 9 nominations aren't even that far behind. As an album it has less genre-play than COWBOY CARTER which accounts for CC's two more nominations. REN got nominations in Dance and R&B, whereas CC got nominations in Country, Americana, Pop, and Rap.

 

 

Edited Friday at 06:02 PM by swissman

[Blade Runner]

And her fans want us to believe she's "underrated" and "mistreated". Pick a narrative. You CAN'T have it both ways lol

[Tayman]

6 minutes ago, swissman said:

People who can't see the quality of this album are saying more about themselves than the record itself, it seems.

But sis, saying this makes no sense. Music is subjective, I'm not a Bey stan but I LOVED Renaissance and didn't enjoy CC not even a little bit, and as a swiftie I don't think Taylor deserves any Grammy for TTPD at all and I'm sure a lot of swifties would come for my neck for saying this, but at the end of the day that's the fun of discussing music. 

[swissman]

26 minutes ago, G.U.Y. said:

According to the hive, everyone who disagrees with the excessive nominations Bey is getting is now racist?

 

 

Why did you just make this up though?

Even if we acknowledge your use of hyperbole as not literal fact, the honest hyperbole would be more like "no one who disagrees with the nominations is getting called racist" because in the four pages of this thread so far, the word "racist" or "racism" has occurred in only three instances:

 

1. In response to someone likened her nominations to SJW pandering and saying that this is why Tr*mp won (so, ya, kinda racist)
2. By me, while describing the hardship that Linda Martell faced in the 1960s/1970s, so: not what you're describing at all
3. By you, just now

 

 

Edited Friday at 06:19 PM by swissman

[iHype.]

The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. 
 

 

All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. 
 

Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. 

[swissman]

1 minute ago, Tayman said:

But sis, saying this makes no sense. Music is subjective, I'm not a Bey stan but I LOVED Renaissance and didn't enjoy CC not even a little bit, and as a swiftie I don't think Taylor deserves any Grammy for TTPD at all and I'm sure a lot of swifties would come for my neck for saying this, but at the end of the day that's the fun of discussing music. 

I am aware music is subjective and I have not said otherwise.

What I said was people who cannot see the quality of the album are saying more about themselves (the subject) than the record (the object).

[RiseAndShine]

Was Spaghetti nominated? That song is so laughably bad. I maintain its one of the worst songs she's released in recent times.

 

And no I'm not suprised. She's always the most nominated artist whenever she releases an album. Not sure why this year would be any different.

[swissman]

5 minutes ago, iHype. said:

The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. 
 

 

All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. 
 

Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. 

Spamming? Beyoncé didn't even put an ad out for her consideration like most artists do.

The Grammys also have genre committees dedicated to putting the songs in the right categories, the categories that the genre experts believe they fit into.

Also no song was put into a category because it had a piano production, nor because of a featured Americana artist.

[Jon Snow]

8 minutes ago, swissman said:

Spamming? Beyoncé didn't even put an ad out for her consideration like most artists do.

The Grammys also have genre committees dedicated to putting the songs in the right categories, the categories that the genre experts believe they fit into.

Also no song was put into a category because it had a piano production, nor because of a featured Americana artist.

+ her team submitted some songs to R&B categories and they moved them to pop

[swissman]

22 minutes ago, Blade Runner said:

And her fans want us to believe she's "underrated" and "mistreated". Pick a narrative. You CAN'T have it both ways lol

Beyoncé will always be underrated by people like those in this thread belittling her talents and demeaning her achievements by calling them bought and PR and whatnot. And if you don't think even a highly praised superstar can be mistreated, then you're not really acknowledging what people are saying it for or why.

 

 

Edited Friday at 06:29 PM by swissman

[Kristie Kuwa]

37 minutes ago, swissman said:

We need to remember that this amount is in part because Beyoncé so brilliantly straddled genres that allowed her to receive nominations in multiple categories.

 

If you're mad at her total number, if you think your fave should have more, tell your fave to branch out and experiment in genres and see if they can then be recognized in those categories for making great music. If not, don't complain that someone else can and has.

Its almost like they ignore the fact shes literally become the first Black female to top a lot of Country Charts with THE and Cowboy Carter. She literally broke barriers down

[Shelter]

16 minutes ago, iHype. said:

The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. 
 

 

All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. 
 

Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. 

You're mad that Bey can pull off multiple genres. I love it. 
 

[Ikejuju]

1 hour ago, MusicIsMyMaster said:

and once again, underserved... like what why is she most nominated?? 

 

im sorry the album is great and all but it legit didn't have any impact. 

 

at this point its become a joke and she will get called out for it. 

It got that many nominations because of the mixture of sounds/songs. Which means it could be nominated in so many genres. It is a great album, but definitely not her best. Plus we all know she'll be snubbed in all the major categories. 

[40_L3VE]

She (nearly) always does, doesn't she?

[no_better]

I don't mind, better Bey for CC than Taylor for TTPD

[40_L3VE]

33 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said:

How many gernes did she submit this year??

 

 

Pop.

Country.

Americana.

Rap.

General Field.

 

Submitted Tyrant for R&B, but didn't get a nom there.

Edited Friday at 06:35 PM by 40_L3VE

[QueenBLadyG]

Are there seriously people out there who are questioning how this masterpiece of an album got so many nominations? Anyone who can fix their mouth to try and say it's undeserved cannot be taken seriously. If anyone else made this opus we wouldn't stop hearing about it considering the plethora of material to work with and utilize. I can understand being a bitter ***** but, a stupid one, too? Get real. Péabody is that girl, and it shouldn't be surprising or controversial at this point, still.