jordanjm Posted November 7 Posted November 7 We were coming off the worst recession in 80 years. The people wanted change. Also we weren't inundated with right wing propagandists masquerading as the sole valid version of masculinity. 4 1
nadiamendell Posted November 7 Posted November 7 The 2008 recession. The Iraq & Afghanistan wars were killing americans regularly. Bush's approval rating was at historic lows. Obama was charismatic, a great orator and ran on progressive policies (for the time). The competitive primary race between him and Hillary had him campaigning heavily in states that didn't typically go blue (like Indiana). 3 1
Lagerfeld Posted November 7 Posted November 7 He was a fresh face and people were sick of Bush. It's how Biden won too. People were sick of Donald and the COVID mess. 1 1
John Slayne Posted November 7 Posted November 7 21 minutes ago, Malkuth said: It was before the SJW/woke movement. I actually think Republicans would've never won another Presidential election ever again if it weren't for that. delusion 1
TiaTamera Posted November 7 Posted November 7 1 hour ago, charot said: Wokeness wasn't a thing then. Wokeness wasn't *weaponized* then. Wokeness was about Black people keeping abreast with their history and not allowing anyone to rewrite the narrative and tell us who we are and who we should be. It had nothing to do with all the other things that people lump into "Wokeness". Even the word "wokeness" is weird cause it's "Stay woke". Like stay vigilant, educated, alive (in all definitions), stay active, don't sleep on people thinking everything is buddy buddy because they might harm you. The Black Panthers is the epitome of "stay woke". So is Huey from The Boondocks. But white people, as always, stole and rewrote the narrative. Now it's seen as anything anti-republican/conservative even "anti-white". The sheer irony of being "woke" getting usurped by white people is the epitome of white supremacy and privilege. 4 3
Maxxxine Posted November 7 Posted November 7 He was well spoken, he had a plan, a great campaign, and no one ever suspected he would commit war crimes. 7
vuelve88 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Connecting with people through his annual Spotify Playlist 7
makeme Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) The real question is how did Regan get 49 states to go red I was so shocked when I saw that NYC/Cali etc voted for a republican in the 80s Edited November 7 by makeme 3
AvadaKedavra Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) Social media was just starting out, and there wasn't any Russian infiltration or political bot farms. People voted based on what they saw on TV and the candidate they thought was most suitable and Obama was really a good orator-someone with appeal. There were still certain standards to be president, and people had boundaries back then. It took decades to built those walls. Those standards were all burned in 2016. All the social media extremist, massive amounts of conspiracy theories, misinformation, and political propaganda destroyed people's minds-sanity Marck Zuckeberg allowed this with Facebook. Hope one day karma comes to him. Our old generations are very different to how they were in the early 2010s. Boomers-Gen X are just deranged-lost their common sense today. Instead of gettin better is like we regressed to the 50s-40s-30s-60s Looks like we have to start from scratch again but learning from the past Its time for manipulation and to move people to left in a smart way. We need definitely need more vitriolistic angry influencers blaming the right wingers. Every single thing should be scrutinized lmfao We have to play the same game Edited November 7 by AvadaKedavra 3 2
dawnettakins Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) Because he ran as a populist, and was the change candidate at that time with "Change" literally being in his campaign slogan. His promise for change was quite literally his whole campaign's premise. The only problem is he then governed like a standard, corporate politician. Not to mention bailed out the big banks and big financers, along with handouts to the healthcare industry with the individual mandate under his crown legislative achievement the Affordable Care Act. All the while completely neglecting the middle and working class after the 2008 financial crisis. He (his administration) basically helped get us to Trump since it didn't really deliver the change Americans were promised, two elections in a row (2008 & 2012). The Dems could win if they ran as a populist today and actually delivered for the voters, but they choose not to everytime they get elected, or only give crumbs, pennies, and incremental change. Edited November 7 by dawnettakins
Vrx. Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Like 60% of Americans lost at LEAST one of the following: their jobs, their retirements, their healthcare, or their homes People were tired of paying for a war as their purchasing power waned, instability, and prior to the economic crash they were far more centrist and willing to actually compromise on issues. Sadly, we are still low key suffering the effects of that 2008 crash whether or not people want to admit it. It's basically 2008 again in a different way --high inflation, wages not keeping up with modern costs, corporations being incentivized to purchase and gentrify low income areas at the cost of affordable housing, and also a government willing to bend over backwards to appease rich donors instead of constituents. It's really devolved rapidly since 2015 honestly.
Vrx. Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, makeme said: The real question is how did Regan get 49 states to go red I was so shocked when I saw that NYC/Cali etc voted for a republican in the 80s Reagan was the governor of California People were happy he was finally dealing with "counter culture" by basically cracking down on college protests and also led to a surplus in the state's budget They basically wanted the same to happen in their states. Also, Carter was basically useless sadly a la Biden Edited November 7 by Vrx. 1
AlanRickman1946 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 I don't think people are so taken up by sloganeering anymore
Dula Peep Posted November 7 Posted November 7 2 hours ago, Onyxmage said: Because Millennials weren't brainwashed with social media like Gen z and most of MAGA is. People dont seem to understand the evil forces that are trying to destroy the US from the outside, between Russian and Chinese bots, people like Elon Musk and Robert Thiel this country is as the kids say "cooked." this tbh 1
Bosque Posted November 7 Posted November 7 He tried to build unity in the country instead of insulting everyone who has a different opinion on any topic 1 1 1
Marianah Adkins Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, makeme said: The real question is how did Regan get 49 states to go red I was so shocked when I saw that NYC/Cali etc voted for a republican in the 80s Reagan was insanely popular + Mondale was similar to Kamala in that he was a VP of an unpopular administration + good economy in years Less polarization as well and California was Reagan country basically Its telling that even in Minnesota where he lost, Reagan trailed only by 3,000 votes thanks to it being Mondale's home state Edited November 7 by Marianah Adkins Additional info
Onyxmage Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Bosque said: He tried to build unity in the country instead of insulting everyone who has a different opinion on any topic When did Kamala insult people on what topic? I do remember Trump calling Democrats, communist, marxist, evil and VERMIN. Edited November 7 by Onyxmage 2
Princess Aurora Posted November 7 Posted November 7 4 hours ago, shimind said: What exactly is the SJW /woke moment? people demanding their human rights is a problem now? Apparently, it is in the US. I don't know what is going on in the US. 1
Princess Aurora Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Recession and Likability. Also, social media needs to be banned asap 1
kellebrity98 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 3 hours ago, TiaTamera said: Wokeness wasn't *weaponized* then. Wokeness was about Black people keeping abreast with their history and not allowing anyone to rewrite the narrative and tell us who we are and who we should be. It had nothing to do with all the other things that people lump into "Wokeness". Even the word "wokeness" is weird cause it's "Stay woke". Like stay vigilant, educated, alive (in all definitions), stay active, don't sleep on people thinking everything is buddy buddy because they might harm you. The Black Panthers is the epitome of "stay woke". So is Huey from The Boondocks. But white people, as always, stole and rewrote the narrative. Now it's seen as anything anti-republican/conservative even "anti-white". The sheer irony of being "woke" getting usurped by white people is the epitome of white supremacy and privilege. the whole woke thing is a far right bs like the religions. one day someone said that is a thing now and we gotta hate it cause far right does not had any issue that belonged to them so they chose these two. tbh religious people is giving the same thing what the pigeons are spys are.
808dream Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 6 hours ago, LittleStarmen said: Literally being probable the coolest president ever He really was. How could the US downscale from Obama to a huge stoopid dangerous clown like Trumpet is incredible. Edited November 7 by 808dream 2
glitch Posted November 7 Posted November 7 America was at her lowest...fat, nasty and broke. Career in shambles. Obama came on this ***** mad as hell 5
Thesedays Posted November 7 Posted November 7 6 hours ago, Onyxmage said: Because Millennials weren't brainwashed with social media like Gen z and most of MAGA is. People dont seem to understand the evil forces that are trying to destroy the US from the outside, between Russian and Chinese bots, people like Elon Musk and Robert Thiel this country is as the kids say "cooked." Lmao at the "evil forces" being other countries, not the US in itself. 1
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