Reginald Posted October 25 Posted October 25 (edited) The GOP has made it clear who they are. Downvote away, some of you don't want to see reality. When all of your rights are stripped away and you're jailed for being gay, I'm sure you'll have "proved a point" Edited October 25 by Reginald 1 4
Loca Posted October 26 Posted October 26 47 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said: It's also on record how the Obama/Trump/Bush and every administration has participated and actively helped with the wiping out the people of Palestine. This is an addendum to my point rather and a counterclaim.
Megan Pete Posted October 26 Author Posted October 26 (edited) 11 hours ago, LIT said: Not supporting a ceasefire is something Trump has in common with Harris. The Biden-Harris administration has the power to unilaterally impose a ceasefire on pain of ending their military support to israel. They have chosen not to (and the Harris campaign has promised she will not do so if elected president either) because they actively support the zionist extermination campaign of Palestinians and Lebanese. Vote how you want, but Harris supporters need to stop bringing up Palestine as a reason to vote for Harris. It's genuinely so insulting to do so while ignoring the fact that it is her administration that has spent the past 13 months arming, funding, and providing propaganda cover for a holocaust. This notion that Trump would be "worse" on Palestine is premised on an assumption that the Biden-Harris administration has thus far constrained Netanyahu at all—for which there is no evidence. This Trump and Biden are the same rhetoric is so false. Yes, a complete arms embargo would be the most morally right decision, but that's not happening under any president and it benefits no one to be set on that point while ignoring actually realistic options. The Biden administration has been seriously working on a ceasefire deal (and this is documented by literally every news source, even ones that are vehemently anti us). Their May 31st deal proposal was literally initially accepted by both Israel and most factions in Palestine, but then fell through due to multiple obstacles and sabotages, including Trump literally telling Netanyahu to not agree to a deal, in order damage Harris' campaign, under promise of supplying even more weapons. So no, Biden/Harris and Trump are not the same. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/9/2/biden-says-netanyahu-not-doing-enough-to-secure-gaza-ceasefire-deal https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew1jkgd7n8o.amp https://amp.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3279216/us-believes-gaza-ceasefire-deal-unlikely-bidens-term-report-says Edited October 26 by Megan Pete 2 2 4
heckinglovato Posted October 26 Posted October 26 2 hours ago, Megan Pete said: This Trump and Biden are the same rhetoric is so false. Yes, a complete arms embargo would be the most morally right decision, but that's not happening under any president and it benefits no one to be set on that point while ignoring actually realistic options. The Biden administration has been seriously working on a ceasefire deal (and this is documented by literally every news source, even ones that are vehemently anti us). Their May 31st deal proposal was literally initially accepted by both Israel and most factions in Palestine, but then fell through due to multiple obstacles and sabotages, including Trump literally telling Netanyahu to not agree to a deal, in order damage Harris' campaign, under promise of supplying even more weapons. So no, Biden/Harris and Trump are not the same. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/9/2/biden-says-netanyahu-not-doing-enough-to-secure-gaza-ceasefire-deal https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew1jkgd7n8o.amp https://amp.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3279216/us-believes-gaza-ceasefire-deal-unlikely-bidens-term-report-says "Please agree to a ceasefire but here's 100,000,000,000 USD in offensive weapons funding to continue wiping out the Palestinians. Anyway please stop!" The Liberal mind is an absolute joke 3 1
LikeATattoo Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) On 10/25/2024 at 9:31 PM, suburbannature said: And yet the left will continue to virtue signal for social currency. Please continue posting your Jill Stein ballots on Twitter and help this monster get elected again. At this point, I'm compiling a list of all the anti-Kamala users in every single virtual space that I frequent, including this one. It's cool if they hate Kamala and/or decide to sit out the election, but if/when I see them despairing over Trump's actions towards Palestine in future, I'll be there with receipts of their inaction. That's it and that's all. Edited October 28 by LikeATattoo 2 1 1 3
Mean Trees Posted October 28 Posted October 28 58 minutes ago, LikeATattoo said: At this point, I'm compiling a list of all the anti-Kamala users on here. It's cool if they hate Kamala and/or decide to sit out the election, but if/when I see them despairing over Trump's actions towards Palestine in future, I'll be there with receipts of their inaction. That's it and that's all. How disgusting when Biden and Kamala have been inactive in wanting a ceasefire and funding Israel's year long bombing campaign that has seen over 200,000 Palestinians die. That's your candidate. The delusion of liberals.
LikeATattoo Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Mean Trees said: How disgusting when Biden and Kamala have been inactive in wanting a ceasefire and funding Israel's year long bombing campaign that has seen over 200,000 Palestinians die. That's your candidate. The delusion of liberals. That's not "my" candidate because I'm not a US citizen, but that's beside the point. When the Trump admin starts detaining protestors of the genocide, systematically singling out the ones with immigrant backgrounds, and subsequently throwing them into deportation camps, then we can (and will) revisit this conversation. Until then, I'll reiterate that you absolutely have the right to opt out of participating in the upcoming election. Godspeed, friend! Edited October 28 by LikeATattoo 2
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