Joey307 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 12 minutes ago, Vermouth said: I think it works in an American context. Fair enough. Given $30 an hour I can see why wait staff don't want it to change! That said it means customers are paying way more for wait staff than in Europe - which tends to end up on the cost, so not such a great deal for customers. Which is kind of why I don't want the "American context" to become "our context", because I can see eating out getting as expensive as it is in the US ( and believe me the US is waaayyy out of whack with the rest of the Western world here). In fairness, if something is clearly bad, checks will get adjusted in Europe (happened to me in Ireland six months ago where a lasagne had had a catastrophic experience in the oven!). Again the "create great customer service", I get works in a US context, but it's just so wearing and overbearing for most foreigners ( who aren't your main customers so also fair enough really😁), even those of us whose native language is English so interacting with the locals isn't a linguistic effort. To me at least ( and I suspect I'm not alone ) it's just so much nicer and chilled to have the whole experience dialled down, slowed down, and to kind of know what you're going to pay just by looking at the menu. Horses for courses I guess. Cultural differences for sure. But I appreciate the conversation and understanding from your side. Can't stand the Europeans and Australians who refuse tipping when in the US. It's always "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" until it comes to wallets
Vermouth Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 minute ago, Joey307 said: Cultural differences for sure. But I appreciate the conversation and understanding from your side. Can't stand the Europeans and Australians who refuse tipping when in the US. It's always "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" until it comes to wallets Yes that's true.
SoldierofLove Posted October 23 Posted October 23 52 minutes ago, superglowy said: I don't mind the 'do you want to donate a £1 to charity options', but outside of a waiter at a restaurant, I ain't tipping any of them. Hell naw. Oh no f*ck that too! When you directly donate to a charity, you get a tax receipt. Of course there's a minimum to get that tax receipt, but when you donate through the store, I'm assuming they get all the tax benefits! 1 1
Davidoff Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) If you don't understand the purpose of tipping keep your ass at home. Nobody is serving you, cleaning your table and washing your dirty dishes for free Edited October 23 by Davidoff
superglowy Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 minute ago, Davidoff said: If you don't understand tipping keep your ass at home. Nobody is serving you, cleaning your table and washing your dirty dishes for free Correct. They are doing it for their wage! 4
NEX Posted October 23 Posted October 23 NRA's fault. No, not that NRA (for once), but the National Restaurant Association
Sawk Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Tipping at a SIT DOWN Restaurant in U.S. = MANDATORY Tipping to go orders / pickup / fastfood = COMPLETELY OPTIONAL
Richie Posted October 23 Posted October 23 24 minutes ago, Davidoff said: If you don't understand the purpose of tipping keep your ass at home. Nobody is serving you, cleaning your table and washing your dirty dishes for free Blame the employers, not the customers. WTF?
Blue. Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Tipping culture in the US is so weird, it is almost violent? It also is very privileged in the sense that maybe people are in NYC forcibly for work or for tourism after saving for who knows how much time and they expect these foreigners to tipo those high percentages too?
Davidoff Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, superglowy said: Correct. They are doing it for their wage! Everyone knows servers get minimum wage and rely on tips to make their living. And before yall start yapping about how it's employers fault consider the fact that if they paid servers standard wage the prices would spike even higher and then yall will complain that cost of dining out is out of control. again, if yall can't afford to tip yall can't afford to eat out LBR.
superglowy Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Davidoff said: Everyone knows servers get minimum wage and rely on tips to make their living. And before yall start yapping about how it's employers fault consider the fact that if they paid servers standard wage the prices would spike even higher and then yall will complain that cost of dining out is out of control. again, if yall can't afford to tip yall can't afford to eat out LBR. Most major companies somehow manage it. Here in the UK you are guaranteed the national minimum wage of £12.60 ($16 dollars) an hour and you keep any tips people give you.
superglowy Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Davidoff said: Everyone knows servers get minimum wage and rely on tips to make their living. And before yall start yapping about how it's employers fault consider the fact that if they paid servers standard wage the prices would spike even higher and then yall will complain that cost of dining out is out of control. again, if yall can't afford to tip yall can't afford to eat out LBR. Most major companies somehow manage it. Here in the UK you are guaranteed the national minimum wage of £12.60 ($16 dollars) an hour and you keep any tips people give you. It's so crazy to me how Americans are convinced things are so impossible despite most major countries pulling it off. National Health Service? Gun Control? Living Wage plus tips? A complete given in the UK yet is consider crazy career destroying concepts for US politicians.
Davidoff Posted October 23 Posted October 23 5 minutes ago, superglowy said: Most major companies somehow manage it. Here in the UK you are guaranteed the national minimum wage of £12.60 ($16 dollars) an hour and you keep any tips people give you. It's cute how you think people can survive on $16 an hour in US.
superglowy Posted October 23 Posted October 23 3 minutes ago, Davidoff said: It's cute how you think people can survive on $16 an hour in US. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong,
OrgVisual Posted October 23 Posted October 23 5 hours ago, Maneater said: I live in the UK, I don't tip 5 hours ago, May said: while i hate the UK im so grateful we have absolutely zero tipping culture. could not imagine paying 20-30% extra Girlll almost every restaurant in London has 12.5% service charge now
RideOrDie Posted October 23 Posted October 23 oh uh the tipping brigade is already here... keep that **** over in america pls thank you
shinyshimmery Posted October 23 Posted October 23 they want us to pay double for the meals these days I tend to tip well bc I hardly eat out these days, but I do think it is completely stupid, ridiculous, and outright disrespectful for customers to have to compensate for the low wages food places pay their employees.
AvadaKedavra Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) Im from Latinoamerica and this american tipping culture is crossing over here and is the worst Restaurants-Corporation should pay their workers. Not us Edited October 23 by AvadaKedavra 1
Letters From Adi Posted October 24 Posted October 24 US needs a revolution of its own to fix the deep rot in its economic system.
Triton Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 10/23/2024 at 11:09 AM, superglowy said: I don't mind the 'do you want to donate a £1 to charity options', but outside of a waiter at a restaurant, I ain't tipping any of them. Hell naw. Um, don't the companies just use that for their own tax write offs? You donated, they might send some of it through and then claim it so they don't pay taxes
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