Trash Posted October 15 Posted October 15 When Gaga adds DWAS to LG7, whats going to be left for the Kats? 11
Infatuation_Junkie Posted October 15 Posted October 15 6 minutes ago, Movimento Perpétuo said: Now Kats and Monsters know how us the 15 remaining Nelly Furtado stans felt back during the Spirit Indestructible's release week. Welcome y'all But that is actually a good album. 1 1
Doctor Dick Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, halcyonday said: tbh the thread is about Billboard 200 which is an American chart so things like Australian tour announcement or Rock in Rio (Brazil) don't do anything for her performance in the US And promo for the movie does work for Harlequin although it is nowhere near being the central part of that promo but Katy's promo in Australia and Brazil being the central part of her album does not? Harlequin had a billboard and a Kimmel performance that's it. Katy had singles sent to radio and music videos for crying out loud. The money was clearly spent on Katy. Edited October 15 by Doctor Dick 3 2
Doctor Dick Posted October 15 Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Trash said: When Gaga adds DWAS to LG7, whats going to be left for the Kats? When Gaga doesn't add DWAS and it still outperforms Katy's 911 by a large margin what's then going to be left for the KatyKats? 3 2
halcyonday Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, Doctor Dick said: And promo for the movie does work for Harlequin although it is nowhere near being the central part of that promo but Katy's promo in Australia and Brazil being the central part of her album does not? Harlequin had a billboard and a Kimmel performance that's it. Katy had singles sent to radio and music videos for crying out loud. The money was clearly spent on Katy. well JFAD was the biggest movie premiere of the year, people all around the world anticipated that and I assume the US audience as well so it's different than singing for 1.5h in Brazil or posting tour dates on Twitter for Australia... like how does it affect its numbers in the US? woman's world had a budget mv and 1 radio payola, but thats it. lifetimes wasn't even sent to the US radio and the vid was just quickly recorded on her vacation with a phone, and they sent IHHM now that the era is dead and she has no streaming payola nn 1 1
Doctor Dick Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, halcyonday said: well JFAD was the biggest movie premiere of the year, people all around the world anticipated that and I assume the US audience as well so it's different than singing for 1.5h in Brazil or posting tour dates on Twitter for Australia... like how does it affect its numbers in the US? woman's world had a budget mv and 1 radio payola, but thats it. lifetimes wasn't even sent to the US radio and the vid was just quickly recorded on her vacation with a phone, and they sent IHHM now that the era is dead and she has no streaming payola nn But the Joker movie premiere wasn't all about the album at all. And the album had no singles and zero payola on radio. Literally the only promo were the billboards and Jimmy Kimmel. And let's not get into the hype for an all new studio album vs. a jazz album from each core fanbase. It's much more understandable and logical why Harlequin is flopping (Liddos don't care for her jazz albums, mostly covers, no single to push it) but 143 says a lot about Katy's brand. Edited October 15 by Doctor Dick
ontherocks Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Bottom line is that the music listeners didn't give a damn about either album. Based on their names alone and especially Gaga with the fanbase she has, should have remained on the charts for a little bit longer than a week 1 6
halcyonday Posted October 15 Posted October 15 17 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: But the Joker movie premiere wasn't all about the album at all. And the album had no singles and zero payola on radio. Literally the only promo were the billboards and Jimmy Kimmel. And let's not get into the hype for an all new studio album vs. a jazz album from each core fanbase. It's much more understandable and logical why Harlequin is flopping (Liddos don't care for her jazz albums, mostly covers, no single to push it) but 143 says a lot about Katy's brand. Happy Mistake was pushed on streaming 4 1
mael Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Doesn't Lady GaGa have a song smashing at the moment, why aren't people checking her other music out? Unless... 1 7 1
Doctor Dick Posted October 15 Posted October 15 14 minutes ago, halcyonday said: Happy Mistake was pushed on streaming We have direct comparisons why companion albums and movies don't say much about an artist's status. Beyoncé's The Gift didn't mean Renaissance flopped and Harry Styles' movie Don't Worry Darling also didn't tarnish his musical reputation. Meanwhile, we have direct comparisons of studio albums flopping, especially back-to-back, downright tarnishing the commercial appeal. Too many to mention.
Erreur2 La Nature Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Every single time one of these two is flopping, the other one is fighting to flop harder, it's hilarious somehow 8
orange22 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 The monsters always rushing to that "side project" excuse … enough. Stand by your flop.
Acuminatus Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Honestly I'm shocked Katherine managed to last for 2 weeks before going OUT! Watch her next album start off being OUT. As for Lady Gaga, I hope she has some great collaborators cooked up for LG7. Imagine a dark electropop song featuring Charlie XCX
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted October 16 ATRL Moderator Posted October 16 Yikes at both. Not surprised about Harlequin, it's attached to a flop movie and there's just not demand for a Lady Gaga jazz album in 2024. Thankfully it's a side project, she currently has a WW #1 hit, and her next actual studio album is coming soon. Bad for Katy though since it was her studio album, was primed to be a "return to form" comeback for her and had pretty extensive promotion. But that's what you get for working with a rapist. 7
DiabeticGrandpa Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 hours ago, mael said: Doesn't Lady GaGa have a song smashing at the moment, why aren't people checking her other music out? Unless... Because that's a Bruno Mars song first and foremost 1 3
Into The Void Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Maybe we should compare Katys 6th album 143 to Gagas sixth album Chromatica
Great808 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Damn, Meghan and Kim Petras' last albums last 2 weeks on the charts and Meghan had 1-2 hit eras and Kim one single hit. Katy had 20+ hits during her reign and this is who's level she's on now? Mind boggling, TRULY. Gaga's should have lasted a bit longer but yeah not a single mf asked for Jazz covers let alone the whole lot of that album dddddd.
OmegaRidley Posted October 16 Posted October 16 14 hours ago, Smarticle said: Cause theyre defending Gaga doing promo and their current project in 2024.... you using it as a gotcha moment for a stan war is just as concerning. 15 hours ago, $ebert said: It's proving Gaga has a great artistic vision, great LIVE vocals and she's doesn't care about the charts, a true legend and artist. He's literally saying she's a legend and a true artist lmao You cannot cherry pick, if you want to be consistent and not a hypocrite you have to acknowledge that Lady Gaga is a rapist enabler as she collaborated with several of them. 8 4
Smarticle Posted October 16 Posted October 16 22 minutes ago, OmegaRidley said: He's literally saying she's a legend and a true artist lmao You cannot cherry pick, if you want to be consistent and not a hypocrite you have to acknowledge that Lady Gaga is a rapist enabler as she collaborated with several of them. Closer to a legend and true artist than Katy And you can acknowledge Gaga apologized, and as a victim herself, did the work by doing things such as taking down DWUW, bringing TIHTY to the spotlight, and standing with Kesha. Unlike Katy, platforming Dr. Luke further and giving excuses for working with him. They are not the same no matter how much you try to both sides it 3 2
Suilen Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I knew back in the day when I bought both OOTB and The Fame that they were destined to be together.
OmegaRidley Posted October 16 Posted October 16 16 minutes ago, Smarticle said: Closer to a legend and true artist than Katy And you can acknowledge Gaga apologized, and as a victim herself, did the work by doing things such as taking down DWUW, bringing TIHTY to the spotlight, and standing with Kesha. Unlike Katy, platforming Dr. Luke further and giving excuses for working with him. They are not the same no matter how much you try to both sides it She apologized 6 YEARS later, coincidentally at the same time she had an Oscar campaign about a song (she barely contributed to) about SA. not only to add to fire, the things she's done were far worse than what Katy did. Not only she DEFENDED R.Kelly, saying that what was said about him was untrue, she then proceeded to HUMP him on live television, made a semi *****graphic video where he puts her to sleep, and made a song called « Do What You Want (with my body) + she tried to OUT Katy thinking that she was raped too by Dr Luke to another industry peer. As a survivor what a disgusting thing to do. and she also works with another abuser within her team. so yeah they're not the same at all y'all try too hard to paint her as a Saint when she's one of the worst POS of this industry lmao 1 10 1
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