chiliam Posted October 14 Posted October 14 well if Taylor is giving bad speeches then maybe your fave needs to go back to school lol. She is one of the most eloquent pop girls and celebs in general 15 1 1 3
BloodLuster Posted October 14 Posted October 14 25 minutes ago, Michael196 said: The speech was 15 minutes long, it would've been stupid, annoying and excessive, if they clapped and cheered the whole time, even for someone like her, also... the whole point of the speech was to summarize the insanely packed decade she carried for herself, which meant that she had to give a fraction of the speech to this topic. clock them, sis OTHs saying it's all about her yet she took time to give some good flowers to Mother Lana 1
WildHeart Posted October 14 Posted October 14 13 minutes ago, suburbannature said: when she's gotten where she is due to the media overpraising everything she does and allowing her to excel Meanwhile the media https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a12119630/taylor-swift-downfall/ https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-america-turning-on-taylor-swift https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/how-taylor-swift-played-the-victim-and-made-her-entire-caree https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-time-for-taylor-swift-to-denounce-her-neo-nazi-admirers https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/in-her-response-to-nicki-minaj-taylor-swift-has-just-proved-how-shes-white-feminisms-offbeat-bambilegged-patronus-10408320.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2016/7/12/16039240/when-did-you-first-realize-taylor-swift-was-lying-to-you-bb5a00a32b65 Y'all love rewriting the history 13 1 3
Gladiator Posted October 14 Posted October 14 How can we get stans to move on from things multiple years ago across all fandoms? Is there a GoFundMe? 7
Smarticle Posted October 14 Posted October 14 It's great that she's so hyper-aware of her public image
WildHeart Posted October 14 Posted October 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doctor Dick said: after she just had said to that to Kanye, then made it about the word "*****" She didn't make it about the word ***** after that, even during the phonecall she basically says "i was scared you were gonna call me, like, a ***** or something" and Kanye assured her he wouldn't after laughing nervously. Then he did AND they edited that out of the phonecall video. 54 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: She did not stop making break-up songs in any album post-Speak Now. She is talking about 1989 which is not a breakup album. Edited October 14 by WildHeart 12 1 3
Matchatea Posted October 14 Posted October 14 5 minutes ago, Gladiator said: How can we get stans to move on from things multiple years ago across all fandoms? Is there a GoFundMe? A gofundme for therapy or a lobotomy? Bc some people need the latter….
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted October 14 ATRL Moderator Posted October 14 1 hour ago, Doctor Dick said: Ugh. I just can't get into her. Same with the whole Kanye-drama. She knew exactly what he meant when he called her and rapped the lines "Taylor owes me sex" because he made her famous and she laughed and said it wasn't mean at all and was okay only to go on stage at the Grammys with that "there'll be people trying to take credit for your success" after she just had said to that to Kanye, then made it about the word "*****" as if that was worse than "someone owing you sex" which is far more misogynistic And then she acts like she never did any break-up songs on any other album after Speak Now. I just can't with her. And yes she has every right to date whoever whenever she wants but it's just kinda a specific vibe that no one from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s and 2020s mpgs have had that many partners. Do your thing girl but don't act like it's never your fault. She has some bops but her attitude and persona is just off-putting. She gave context in 2019 on why she was so pissed off about it: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/taylor-swift-rolling-stone-interview-880794/ And "And then she acts like she never did any break-up songs on any other album after Speak Now."....what? She's never said that? 1 1 2
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted October 14 ATRL Moderator Posted October 14 Anyways! This 2019 speech was actually fantastic 8 1 2
Janet Posted October 14 Posted October 14 Did she really need to give a 15 minute speech about her career? She isn't Madonna 2 1 4
PoisonedIvy Posted October 14 Posted October 14 29 minutes ago, Janet said: Did she really need to give a 15 minute speech about her career? She isn't Madonna Girl, they invited her to 3
vanishingbee Posted October 14 Posted October 14 if taylor spent half as much time working on making herself happy as she does trying to please other people, she might not be such a miserable person. 1 2 8
Tayman Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I can see it's cool again to hate on everything Taylor does or did. Go girl give us reputation TV it's time! 1 1
Witnessed ET Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I see where she's coming from when she summarized her career, but the speech as a whole was just very offputting. And it's not about anything else other than how she mostly made it about her being a victim instead of letting her success speak for itself. And she's always had that mentality, no matter how old she grows. 1 3
Luckitty Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I would've fell asleep if i had to hear her yap for 15 minutes 4 1
Rep2000 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 hours ago, Doctor Dick said: Of course she can talk about her own career. But she exaggerated many things in that speech. She did not stop making break-up songs in any album post-Speak Now. She played Kanye just as much as he played him and she has been playing the victim very often and often blames everyone else for her failed relationships. And the blocking and variants this year. And the one super close friend she has being Blake Lively and everything surrounding Blake's mean girl attitude just... it turns you off. Wow, the OTH jumped out! That's a lot of infos for someone to obsessively hate over lol. 2
Rep2000 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 1 hour ago, Janet said: Did she really need to give a 15 minute speech about her career? She isn't Madonna For an event that celebrates her career as Billboard's Woman of The Decade? Gurl, you are not following the assignment. 6
The Music Industry Posted October 14 Posted October 14 1 hour ago, Janet said: Did she really need to give a 15 minute speech about her career? She isn't Madonna You're right. She isn't Madonna because when it's all going to be set and done, Taylor will have an even MORE successful career than Madonna. Hope that helps! 3 2 1
Rep2000 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 3 hours ago, suburbannature said: This just proves Twatters have bad listening skill, because she was talking about Lana and other female artists in that same speech. But sure, away, ATRL. 1
naval23 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 3 hours ago, midnightdawn said: her saying "1989" and pausing, expecting a cheer from the audience but getting silence DFKM 2
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