needs Posted October 9 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, Capris Groove said: Maybe that's because Lady Gaga's first order of business is, uh, Lady Gaga? Her singular purpose in the world is not to be of service to the queer community. The queer community is one of many, many communites in the world, and is not more important than any other. Did I ever say it was her singular purpose? Point me to where I said that. Point me to where I said that the queer community is more important than any other community. Fibromyalgia, the elephant in the conversation, my mom has it and I probably will too because of genetics. So miss me, Capris Groove.
Capris Groove Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 minute ago, needs said: Did I ever say it was her singular purpose? Point me to where I said that. Point me to where I said that the queer community is more important than any other community. Fibromyalgia, the elephant in the conversation, my mom has it and I probably will too because of genetics. So miss me, Capris Groove. Well you're acting outrageous and quite frankly unhinged about the whole matter. Gaga has done plenty for the queer community in her career. "What has she done since Chromatica" is a non-starter. It's not a yearly membership that she needs to renew. 6
needs Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 minute ago, Capris Groove said: Well you're acting outrageous and quite frankly unhinged about the whole matter. Gaga has done plenty for the queer community in her career. "What has she done since Chromatica" is a non-starter. It's not a yearly membership that she needs to renew. You can think that, IDC. You make a valid point that it isn't a yearly membership. And yet now, ahead of the election next month, is by far the most crucial time. Much more important than 2021 post-election of Biden, when she wanted to prop up the queer community and get us dancing. Which she profited off of, right? Be a bit more critical is all i'm saying. 4
Slap Posted October 10 Posted October 10 16 hours ago, needs said: @kawaiizaddy A confused react? What are you confused about? Do you want to explain to me what Gaga has done for the queer community post-Chromatica? Because from where I'm standing, ever since that album & tour, she has made everything about her. Her illness, her medications, her sponsorships, her film career, her goals. It may relate back to the queer community when she talks about where she pulls inspiration from or when she talks about gratitude for her fans. I am not denying that, I think Gaga is a good person with a strong appreciation for her fans and specifically her queer fans. That said - do you ACTUALLY believe that Gaga does enough as an ally? Lady Gaga - Stefani - is a white, cisgendered, extremely feminine (in the classic conception of what is feminine and especially what is beautiful and respectable in terms of being a woman), rich as **** woman with heaps and heaps of connections, talent, and investments in Hollywood, and of course in New York and abroad. Do you genuinely believe this woman has done enough for the queer community lately in terms of talking about queer issues online? In person and in interviews? Donating her money and especially her time to queer causes? Doing literally anything to express public support for queer issues and especially those intersectional issues like what's going on in Palestine, where many queer people are facing genocide in part due to their queer identity? I say public because we need public figures with the fame and especially the status that Gaga has, to be ABOUT it. We need them to speak up, donate their time and money, and help the cause. Otherwise that is cheap allyship and it is ineffective. Words are only words, I need and we need, action. If you don't agree or you're too much of a Little Monster to see where I'm coming from, I can send you a list of some books on queer politics and liberation that would probably really benefit your human experience. And you know, prevent you from being ignorant lol. A confused react to what I last said is crazy dude. Jesus Christ like she has definitely pandered to the straights a biT too much lately but people need to stop expecting entertainers to be full time activists, it's insane. Also I think she should just focus on music, maybe do a visual album to showcase her acting more?
needs Posted October 10 Posted October 10 8 hours ago, Slap said: Jesus Christ like she has definitely pandered to the straights a biT too much lately but people need to stop expecting entertainers to be full time activists, it's insane. Also I think she should just focus on music, maybe do a visual album to showcase her acting more? Then don't come out in 2009 like you're an activist, talking about gays and queer community and rights all the time, using the queer community & culture as a springboard for one's art and success and fame and especially, money. Is it insane to ask that person to stay about it? Baby, you're insane to give her a pass. You're the reason we will continue to have celebrities like her who put money and fame over everything. You're the reason the culture won't move forward. We need celebrities who are activists because it is inspiring and more importantly because they shift culture, silly girl. They get us to think. They do it with their art, and they do it with their words too. Do you think Taylor endorsing Kamala accomplished nada? Obviously that was a big deal babe. So it would be helpful if someone like Gaga - who pretended to be a huge ally when she came out in the sense of allyship that is verbal, allyship that is very public and straight up and forward, she isn't like that anymore & you have to admit it. It would be helpful for that person to do more. Y'all wanna call me unhinged and outrageous for having a different opinion than you. However I express it you can get over it, it's called being passionate and outspoken and expressive. Maybe you just don't relate to that and that's okay too. But use your head and show respect even when you disagree. I grant all of you respect! LOL.
Slap Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 43 minutes ago, needs said: Then don't come out in 2009 like you're an activist, talking about gays and queer community and rights all the time, using the queer community & culture as a springboard for one's art and success and fame and especially, money. Is it insane to ask that person to stay about it? Baby, you're insane to give her a pass. You're the reason we will continue to have celebrities like her who put money and fame over everything. You're the reason the culture won't move forward. We need celebrities who are activists because it is inspiring and more importantly because they shift culture, silly girl. They get us to think. They do it with their art, and they do it with their words too. Do you think Taylor endorsing Kamala accomplished nada? Obviously that was a big deal babe. So it would be helpful if someone like Gaga - who pretended to be a huge ally when she came out in the sense of allyship that is verbal, allyship that is very public and straight up and forward, she isn't like that anymore & you have to admit it. It would be helpful for that person to do more. Y'all wanna call me unhinged and outrageous for having a different opinion than you. However I express it you can get over it, it's called being passionate and outspoken and expressive. Maybe you just don't relate to that and that's okay too. But use your head and show respect even when you disagree. I grant all of you respect! LOL. I was probably making a broader tangent point and it shouldn't have been directed at your perspective. Sorry it wasnt clear and came off as dismissive to your point, sis. Ironically I was being passionate in my own way about that broader tangent and didn't think of that. I'm actually not giving her a pass, I agree with you that it was performative and then she dipped, I felt that way at the time and it definitely made me think twice about how genuine her allyship was, I just don't think we should expect that level of activism and allyship from entertainers who really underneath it all are there to promote themselves and their own image and aren't going to save us. I think I'm just too cynical about celebrities to expect that their allyship would ever be genuine if it's coming from pressure from that group, then it's pandering and personally as a member of the queer community I really don't want that or think we need that because it is very superficial and lacks real impact. That said I agree Taylor endorsing Kamala did something - that's the sad part is that even performative allyship will influence people to be less bigoted even in small ways. We probably agree more than disagree, so sorry if I dismissed your perspective. Edited October 10 by Slap 2
Pop Fan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Is Tarantino about to join Tony Bennett, Bradley Cooper and Bruno Mars on their mission to save Gaga's dying career? 7 1
terrijoe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Nothing can save her except pulling a Nicki Minaj by releasing her biggest album and attaching vol 2 to it. Fame 2 in ready
Pop Fan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) ACT 1: The Fame (2008) ACT 2: The Fame Monster (2009) ACT 3: The Fame Monster Monster (2025) Edited October 11 by Pop Fan 1 1 1
ThePopStop Posted October 11 Posted October 11 12 hours ago, Slap said: I was probably making a broader tangent point and it shouldn't have been directed at your perspective. Sorry it wasnt clear and came off as dismissive to your point, sis. Ironically I was being passionate in my own way about that broader tangent and didn't think of that. I'm actually not giving her a pass, I agree with you that it was performative and then she dipped, I felt that way at the time and it definitely made me think twice about how genuine her allyship was, I just don't think we should expect that level of activism and allyship from entertainers who really underneath it all are there to promote themselves and their own image and aren't going to save us. I think I'm just too cynical about celebrities to expect that their allyship would ever be genuine if it's coming from pressure from that group, then it's pandering and personally as a member of the queer community I really don't want that or think we need that because it is very superficial and lacks real impact. That said I agree Taylor endorsing Kamala did something - that's the sad part is that even performative allyship will influence people to be less bigoted even in small ways. We probably agree more than disagree, so sorry if I dismissed your perspective. 12 hours ago, needs said: Then don't come out in 2009 like you're an activist, talking about gays and queer community and rights all the time, using the queer community & culture as a springboard for one's art and success and fame and especially, money. Is it insane to ask that person to stay about it? Baby, you're insane to give her a pass. You're the reason we will continue to have celebrities like her who put money and fame over everything. You're the reason the culture won't move forward. We need celebrities who are activists because it is inspiring and more importantly because they shift culture, silly girl. They get us to think. They do it with their art, and they do it with their words too. Do you think Taylor endorsing Kamala accomplished nada? Obviously that was a big deal babe. So it would be helpful if someone like Gaga - who pretended to be a huge ally when she came out in the sense of allyship that is verbal, allyship that is very public and straight up and forward, she isn't like that anymore & you have to admit it. It would be helpful for that person to do more. Y'all wanna call me unhinged and outrageous for having a different opinion than you. However I express it you can get over it, it's called being passionate and outspoken and expressive. Maybe you just don't relate to that and that's okay too. But use your head and show respect even when you disagree. I grant all of you respect! LOL. Gaga has gone above and beyond what ANY other celebrity has done for the LGBT community. She wrote speeches and rallied in Washington. She brought discharged gay military members as her guests to award shows to raise awareness. She launched a ******* controversial lead single at the height of her career to rally for LGBT acceptance and rights. LGBT acceptance would not be anywhere near as mainstream as it is now without Gaga's activism. Her life's work isn't activism. She's already done more than enough. Maybe you should get off ATRL and start doing more if you feel so entitled to complain. And by the way, she no longer participates in activism because of her mental health and breakdowns of the past. She cannot handle the stress of activism and controversy anymore. She already paid the price for what she did and what people like you have the nerve to complain about. How dare you. 3 1 9
Cherish Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Are we surprised? I heard they pulled a lot of her scenes from the Final Cut. Maybe she should go watch it in theaters.
needs Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, ThePopStop said: Gaga has gone above and beyond what ANY other celebrity has done for the LGBT community. She wrote speeches and rallied in Washington. She brought discharged gay military members as her guests to award shows to raise awareness. She launched a ******* controversial lead single at the height of her career to rally for LGBT acceptance and rights. LGBT acceptance would not be anywhere near as mainstream as it is now without Gaga's activism. Her life's work isn't activism. She's already done more than enough. Maybe you should get off ATRL and start doing more if you feel so entitled to complain. And by the way, she no longer participates in activism because of her mental health and breakdowns of the past. She cannot handle the stress of activism and controversy anymore. She already paid the price for what she did and what people like you have the nerve to complain about. How dare you. No, how dare you. My family has fibromyalgia among so many and we're still marching, donating money, attending rallies and town meetings. If this is the situation, your silly post...Goodbye. ThePopStop? LOL. Gaga could at least let her obsession with status go. That's all I was trying to say about Joker 2 bombing. Would it be more helpful for Gaga to be an EGOT or for her to speak up about queer politics a mere 25 days before queer people could begin losing all their rights in the USA? I'm just asking, it's JUST a question. But I won't be answering anymore. Just think. Edited October 11 by needs 2
The Queen Posted October 12 Posted October 12 On 10/11/2024 at 2:17 AM, ThePopStop said: LGBT acceptance would not be anywhere near as mainstream as it is now without Gaga's activism. Do you really think that all LGBT+ people needed to be visible was Gaga's activism? Stop disrespecting the community's own work. 2
DemDam92 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 On 10/11/2024 at 9:17 AM, ThePopStop said: Gaga has gone above and beyond what ANY other celebrity has done for the LGBT community. She wrote speeches and rallied in Washington. She brought discharged gay military members as her guests to award shows to raise awareness. She launched a ******* controversial lead single at the height of her career to rally for LGBT acceptance and rights. LGBT acceptance would not be anywhere near as mainstream as it is now without Gaga's activism. Her life's work isn't activism. She's already done more than enough. Maybe you should get off ATRL and start doing more if you feel so entitled to complain. And by the way, she no longer participates in activism because of her mental health and breakdowns of the past. She cannot handle the stress of activism and controversy anymore. She already paid the price for what she did and what people like you have the nerve to complain about. How dare you. Lmao is THIS something you really believe? We live on the same planet? 4
Sapphire Posted October 14 Posted October 14 from 8-minute applause at Cannes to weekend box office 80% drop slayy
dumbsparce Posted October 14 Posted October 14 There's no way Tarantino will book someone with such fickle trajectory for his final film. Maybe she can provide them with some Haus cosmetics but that'll be the extend of their colab. 3
spree Posted October 14 Posted October 14 56 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: There's no way Tarantino will book someone with such fickle trajectory for his final film. Maybe she can provide them with some Haus cosmetics but that'll be the extend of their colab. or some Nurtec in case he decides to watch her Joker movie. 3
Triton Posted October 14 Posted October 14 16 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: She's indeed in shock >> Has she posted anything about it? Or went into hiding?
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