Strawberry Bubble Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, JennyWayne said: Even when Xtina's career was in the pits of hell (fat nasty and broke etc) she was at least able to score hits as features with MLJ and Say Something. The state of Katy's career is so bad right now that scoring a hit with a 30-second feature isn't even possible anymore THIS. Christina is remembered as one of the greatest voices of her generation—she has a legacy. Katy has Teenage Dream, and that's it 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusualBoy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: not really. she was never the top pop girl all she had was payola'd, remixed and discounted #1 singles that's it Let's not be delusional she was a top girl during 2010 or 2013/2014 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedMiracle Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Bubble Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 Just now, TedMiracle said: No. who's bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimenawa Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Also Janet, she never recovered from the Superbowl. She can still tour tho 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erreur2 La Nature Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Not when Christina Aguilera exists 2 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Just now, UnusualBoy said: Let's not be delusional she was a top girl during 2010 or 2013/2014 2010 - gaga 2013 - miley/lorde 2014 - taylor swift to be the top girl you have to have acclaim, sales, huge celebrity status, star power, touring, iconic moments etc she was never the top girl. all she had were huge payola'd singles 4 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoOneDiesFromLove Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 She chose to embrace a very weird "class clown" persona during Witness-Smile. She tried to undo it with 143 but everyone's who was turned off by those two eras have long moved on 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Yes. It's time you people stop comparing this one trick pony, embarrassing mess, out of touch of an artist with Duallah. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyxmage Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 14 minutes ago, A-V-XYZ said: Britney was. Her life fell apart in 2007 and made her retire young. Thats why she had multiple number one albums, number one songs, top 10s and successful worldwide tours after 2007? You really tried it. OT: I would say Janet was worse because she was a certified ICON at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusualBoy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, MonsterNavy said: 2010 - gaga 2013 - miley/lorde 2014 - taylor swift to be the top girl you have to have acclaim, sales, huge celebrity status, star power, touring, iconic moments etc she was never the top girl. all she had were huge payola'd singles I may give you Gaga for 2010 but she was bigger than Miley and Lorde on 2013 on single sales, touring and album sales... And how were her singles payola'd when she has like 6-7 diamond songs, the most for any female 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 18 minutes ago, Strawberry Bubble said: Maybe The Black Eyed Peas are strong contenders for the biggest downfall in history? Bep still gets hits and could probably sell out a stadium katy can do neither 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 5 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: 2010 - gaga 2013 - miley/lorde 2014 - taylor swift to be the top girl you have to have acclaim, sales, huge celebrity status, star power, touring, iconic moments etc she was never the top girl. all she had were huge payola'd singles They said A top girl, not THE top girl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Katycats resented the Abdul comparisons and would always rebut it with her ongoing streaming stats of her classics, but that's all she has now. With this third flop, in an era of defensive posturing (that MTV speech) and marketing and defiant Dr. Luke inclusion (as if the ends justify the means at any cost) as if justifying your legacy loudly enough will cancel out your string of recent flops by default, it's put all of this into stark relief. It'd be one thing if there was some humility on her end or she'd diversified more like Gaga and J.Lo but she was just seething in Brazil as if another hit era was owed to her, which just came across as desperate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Aurora Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Kinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 17 minutes ago, JennyWayne said: Even when Xtina's career was in the pits of hell (fat nasty and broke etc) she was at least able to score hits as features with MLJ and Say Something. The state of Katy's career is so bad right now that scoring a hit with a 30-second feature isn't even possible anymore That's the last ten years, baby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said: I may give you Gaga for 2010 but she was bigger than Miley and Lorde on 2013 on single sales, touring and album sales... And how were her singles payola'd when she has like 6-7 diamond songs, the most for any female diamond because of her botted youtube streams? but sure, like I said all she had was huge payola'd singles so lets give her that 2 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: They said A top girl, not THE top girl my original post was talking about being the top girl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Bubble Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, Solaria said: Yes. It's time you people stop comparing this one trick pony, embarrassing mess, out of touch of an artist with Duallah. Dua has HUGE touring power. Katy is stuck in Las Vegas, wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) she was pop radio GP darling. The same role is played by many throughout history once the hits dry so does their career from a commercial standpoint (ex Paula, Fergie, Gwen, Nelly, occupied similar places but they've all gone on to age gracefully with their status and legacy so commercial success for them doesn't matter Katy still wants it hence why her downfall is so huge because she keeps trying and gets more desperate everytime Edited September 20 by Katamari 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Bubble Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: They said A top girl, not THE top girl Yes, I'm talking about someone who was on her level. Not even Gaga fell this hard—she continued to have success and remains a significant figure in pop culture. But an artist who was as big as Katy and fell this far? I can't think of anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-V-XYZ Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Biggest Falls From Grace: 1. Britney in 2007 2. Mariah in 2001 3. Paula during her 3rd album 4. Katy in 2015 5. Katy in 2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Bubble Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, Katamari said: she was pop radio GP darling. The same role is played by many throughout history once the hits dry so does their career from a commercial standpoint (ex Paula, Fergie, Gwen, Nelly, occupied similar places but they've all gone on to age gracefully so commercial success for them doesn't matter Katy still wants it hence why her downfall is so huge because she keeps trying and tries desperate everytime Ohhh, Fergie is a great contender too. Thanks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romova99 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I would say Christina, the level of disrespect she got was huge, Bionic flopped, Burlesque underperformed, Lotus flopped, forgot the lyrics of the national anthem, the tan spray thing, she fell at the Grammys, she got criticized for her weight, Accelerate being a mess, Liberation and hew new album a flop too... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Just now, Katamari said: she was pop radio GP darling. The same role is played by many throughout history once the hits dry so does their career from a commercial standpoint (ex Paula, Fergie, Gwen, Nelly, occupied similar places but they've all gone on to age gracefully so commercial success for them doesn't matter Katy still wants it hence why her downfall is so huge because she keeps trying and tries desperate everytime Therein lies the difference. She hasn't accepted that her time on Top 40 is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Depends how you measure "biggest". Is biggest the delta? Because that probably would be Celine who arguably had the biggest peak. is biggest the slope? Because that would probably be one of those one album wonders like Nora Jones. Is biggest the most high profile flop era because I am not sure anything is high profile anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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