base talk 143 vs The Tortured Poets Department

[taylamour]

Songwriter Swift

[Prodigal Self]

25 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Never change, ATRL 

 

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Anyway, it's obviously 143 because I have a deep seeded inferiority complex regarding Taylor and her incomprehensibly successful music and therefore I will publicly proclaim to despise it and her at any chance I get to make myself feel better, even at the cost of having to pretend to enjoy Dr. Luke's quarter-baked, cheap-sample, toilet-bowl mixed, Katy Perry-tier vacuous and empty, poppers club back alleyway anthems
 

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And in all seriousness, 143 has the artistic integrity of a wet queef in comparison to most of the songs on The Anthology alone but big words and muted instrumentation put some of y'all to sleep so I wouldn't expect you to know that

So embarrassing and pretentious

 

143 clears!

[Roberto]

None, of course.

 

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If I was forced to choose, I would go for Taylor. 

 

[SharGaga]

TTPD is better, every single song is better by a landslide I'm afraid.

[wastedpotential]

13 minutes ago, PopKills said:

 

„Big words" and it's just her using the most obscure and unnecessary metaphors, trying to seem artsy while telling the most obvious story anyone listening already got a few seconds in. 
 

OT: neither album is really good but 143 at least isn't that forgettable and has some cute songs. 

 I'll @ you in a few months and we'll see how this stands

 

And as for the "obscure and unnecessary metaphors", here is every metaphor (and I even threw in all the similes too to be generous) I found from Katy's lyrics on 143:

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"she's a flower, she's a thorn"

"crawling on me like a centipede"

"dripping like some ice"

"I'm his drug"

"on him like a suntan"

"living in a candy daydream"

"Like the sun is always rising, like the stars are in the sky"

"I'd given up watching sunsets"

"Breathe me in, another dose takе a ride on my rainbow"
"You get me diving deep in your system, I'm just a prisoner in your prison, you got me hooked on your algorithm"
"I'm seeing it different now that I'm outside of the storm"

"Don't let the weight of the world be heavy on your wings"

 

I may have missed a few, I'm sure you'll let me know 

TTPD may be overwrought (and I disagree, but that's neither here nor there), but at least I feel confident that Taylor attended and subsequently passed all of her English classes 

[Katy.Kat.23]

My first impression of TTPD was an AI trying to create a Taylor Swift album and that she really didn't have much to say so she relied on what she thought her fans would want instead of what she wanted to do which is my exact same criticism of 143. Neither are abysmal albums but in their discography they're both just kinda....there.

[YellowRibbon]

ATRL is on a new Taylor hate era so I'd expect the kind of responses shown above. TTPD clearly clears any Katy Perry album ever sans Teenage Dream (maybe)

[Blue Monday]

[Sabrina Carpenter]

143 clears any Taylor album

[BrokenMachine]

143 winning lmfao 

[LoveInStereo]

I wish I knew which users voted for 143 so I could know whose opinions to completely disregard going forward. I get taste is subjective but jfc… 143 is the worst new pop album I've heard since Britney Jean

[wastedpotential]

29 minutes ago, Prodigal Self said:

So embarrassing and pretentious

 

143 clears!

I'd rather be called pretentious than be caught dead slobbering for an artist desperately trying (unsuccessfully, might I add) to last-ditch speedrun a f*ghag era to assemble a Kylie/Charli fanbase since everything else has failed her

 

This album is artistically lacking and is not worth sticking your neck out for, sis. It'll be forgotten in a month, except in ATRLer circles where it will be derided and laughed at as the final gasp of Katy's career before total irrelevance. Between the recycled and sample heavy instrumentals that had aged and rotted away in the vault YEARS before their release and the horny high schooler decides she wants to write pop songs about experiences she's never had lyrics, there's really nothing of merit to grab on to here 

Edited September 20 by wastedpotential

[Lagerfeld]

The one that isn't NyQuil. 
 

[Prodigal Self]

Just now, wastedpotential said:

I'd rather be called pretentious than be caught dead slobbering for an artist trying to last-ditch speedrun a f*ghag era to assemble a Kylie/Charli fanbase since everything else has failed her

 

This album is artistically lacking and is not worth sticking your neck out for, sis. It'll be forgotten in a month, except in ATRLer circles where it will be derided and laughed at as the final gasp of Katy's career before total irrelevance. Between the recycled and sample heavy instrumentals that had aged into rotting in the vault YEARS before their release and the horny high schooler decides she wants to write pop songs about experiences she's never had lyrics, there's really nothing of merit to grab on to here 

You keep trying harder and harder, like I knew you hit "post" smirking, anticipating the coming likes, giggling over "wet queef"... Embarrassing! Also it's you who stans for the 35yo horny high schooler so there's that..

[Ricardo1993]

I love them both. The true queens of Mcdonalds 

 

[Big Bad Wolf]

 

143 sweetie…..LIFETIMES alone clears TTPD

[Strawberry Bubble]

where can i listen to 143

[LoveInStereo]

31 minutes ago, Katy.Kat.23 said:

My first impression of TTPD was an AI trying to create a Taylor Swift album and that she really didn't have much to say so she relied on what she thought her fans would want instead of what she wanted to do which is my exact same criticism of 143. Neither are abysmal albums but in their discography they're both just kinda....there.

Taylor thought her fans wanted to hear multiple songs where she calls them out? And I know a bunch of Swifties IRL who hate that she wrote love songs about Matty but she made that decision anyway despite knowing it would alienate a lot of her base. Taylor made the choices she wanted to make despite the consequences. Katy made a faceless, generic, anonymous mess without a drop of passion that's only "for the fans" in the sense that literally nobody else would want to hear it

[wastedpotential]

8 minutes ago, Prodigal Self said:

You keep trying harder and harder, like I knew you hit "post" smirking, anticipating the coming likes, giggling over "wet queef"... Embarrassing! Also it's you who stans for the 35yo horny high schooler so there's that..

Point me to the 143 song with more than 50 unique words and then we can talk 

 

You having to pull the "I know you thought you were funny" card because you know you're standing on reeeeeally shaky artistic ground, let ALONE the highly anticipated sales and streaming figures 

[Gladiator]

A tougher comparison poll for me would be Smile vs Tortured Poets.

 

 

 

Edited September 20 by Gladiator

[Katy.Kat.23]

1 minute ago, LoveInStereo said:

Taylor thought her fans wanted to hear multiple songs where she calls them out? And I know a bunch of Swifties IRL who hate that she wrote love songs about Matty but she made that decision anyway despite knowing it would alienate a lot of her base. Taylor made the choices she wanted to make despite the consequences. Katy made a faceless, generic, anonymous mess without a drop of passion that's only "for the fans" in the sense that literally nobody else would want to hear it

Taylor thought her fans wanted banal, motonous word salad rehashes of her previous themes, and Katy thought her fans wanted "cunty" club bangers, so yes. Granted Taylor's effort was obviously better music. And literally one song out of the 30 was calling her fans out be so serious (and maybe that's why it was the best one on the album)

[Digitalism]

I did not expect those poll results comming into this thread 

[WildHeart]

1 hour ago, PopKills said:

143 at least isn't that forgettable

[Prodigal Self]

5 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Point me to the 143 song with more than 50 unique words and then we can talk 

 

You having to pull the "I know you thought you were funny" card because you know you're standing on reeeeeally shaky artistic ground, let ALONE the highly anticipated sales and streaming figures 

Who gives a **** about that except for Thesaurus Swift stans  UNIQUE WORDS. jfc

Katy Perry releasing garbage music and bombing does not make TTPD good!

[Prodigal Self]

An album with 21, Jid and Doechii on it >> the horny one-woman show 3hrs long