Mr.Marvelous Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 omg 7.1 to 10.8 is a 52 % increase, but 10.8 is a 35 % lead over 7.1 can we move on now?
Harry Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Fruity said: Kworb uses the #1 as the base number, however, I did not. If you are so inclined to be proved wrong then @ Kworb and if you are lucky he will explain to you that percentages (and fractions and decimals) have an inverse depending on which way you do the calculation! exactly, and that's how u calculate a lead. it has to be a relative comparison to the #1 or a specific number since we are measuring the performance of one artist versus the other. ur math ain't wrong but it's just not presented right.
Truth Teller Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Harry said: thats now how it works at 10.6m, rih lead is still 35% but the gap between hers and bey's i.e. 3.5m is 50% of what bey has. by saying "lead", a 50% is 5.3m gap between bey and rih i mean u ain't wrong but your explanation of it is incorrect. We're using 7.1 as the base number. You're using 10.6 (10.8) The difference between the two is 3.7 3.7 is about 50% of 7.1 aka the base number So, someone who has 3.7 more streams than 7.1 has 50% more streams than the person who has 7.1 The fact that 7.1 is about 65% of 10.8 doesn't mean that 10.8 is a 35% increase over 7.1. That's not how it works when you're calculating increases. For decreases, sure. 100-65 = 35 so Beyonce has 35% less streams than Rihanna. But not for increases.
Fruity Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, Harry said: exactly, and that's how u calculate a lead. it has to be a relative comparison to the #1 or a specific number since we are measuring the performance of one artist versus the other. ur math ain't wrong but it's just not presented right. You can present a lead however you'd like The real problem here is that math doesn't translate perfectly to english But I think I made it quite clear what I meant in my first post, which was accurate
Dekkan Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 32 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: Stop coming for @Fruity girls, the good sis is correct 10.8 million is (roughly) a 50% increase over 7.1 million. Just think that 14.2 million would be a 100% increase (double). Y'all are calculating the decrease from #1 to #2, he's doing the opposite. Not that it matters in this context, since Bey doesn't even upload her **** on Spotify. I'm just defending MATH
Thickorita Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) This thread A tea. Edited June 21, 2017 by Thickorita
Harry Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: We're using 7.1 as the base number, as we should since we're calculating the lead over that number. You're using 10.6 (10.8) The difference between the two is 3.7 3.7 is about 50% of 7.1 aka the base number So, someone who has 3.7 more streams than 7.1 has 50% more streams than the person who has 7.1 The fact that 7.1 is about 65% of 10.8 doesn't mean that 10.8 is a 35% increase over 7.1. That's not how it works when you're calculating increases. For decreases, sure. 100-65 = 35 so Beyonce has 35% less streams than Rihanna. But not for increases. thats not the universal methodology of doing things but okay
calm_down Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 2. Beyoncé 7,120,518 Only legend. Edited June 21, 2017 by calm_down
KORDEI Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Bey's position here and success on Spotify in general is so interesting to observe. She does so well by doing so little. Imagine if she actually tried
Rafael Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Bey's power is unmatched. She would DESTROY if she cared for Spotify
Calypso Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Harry said: exactly, and that's how u calculate a lead. it has to be a relative comparison to the #1 or a specific number since we are measuring the performance of one artist versus the other. ur math ain't wrong but it's just not presented right. . The person just kinda presented it not well. It becomes misleading. ------------ lmfao at the math lessons tho ----------- Slay beyonce!! and Riri it's so amazing to see bey's power without embracing spotify.
Gaia Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 46 minutes ago, KORDEI said: Bey's position here and success on Spotify in general is so interesting to observe. She does so well by doing so little. Imagine if she actually tried Urban has taken over streaming services. Beyonce switching to Urban from pop helps her case. BEYONCE really upped her profile much more than another pop album ever would have
KORDEI Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Kkamjong said: Urban has taken over streaming services. Beyonce switching to Urban from pop helps her case. BEYONCE really upped her profile much more than another pop album ever would have Beyoncé has always been R&B/urban-crossover. She has only been "pop" once in her career and that was with IASF... and even that had loads of urban songs on it. One of the biggest hits from the album was mostly urban. So if anything, she 'went back'... she didn't 'switch' lol
Gaia Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KORDEI said: Beyoncé has always been R&B/urban-crossover. She has only been "pop" once in her career and that was with IASF... and even that had loads of urban songs on it. One of the biggest hits from the album was mostly urban. So if anything, she 'went back'... she didn't 'switch' lol Uh Crazy in Love is mostly pop. Irreplaceable is Pop. Single Ladies/Halo are pop. Even Deja Vu has so many pop elements as a song. Her most popular song from almost every single era she's had is pop. Only era where she didn't have a standout pop hit is 4. So let's not act like she's been promoted as some R&B/Urban act. Her albums are also classified as "Pop" in sellers like iTunes so... and those are given by the company Edited June 21, 2017 by Kkamjong
KORDEI Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kkamjong said: Uh Crazy in Love is mostly pop. Irreplaceable is Pop. Single Ladies/Halo are pop. Even Deja Vu has so many pop elements as a song. Her most popular song from almost every single era she's had is pop. Only era where she didn't have a standout pop hit is 4. So let's not act like she's been promoted as some R&B/Urban act. Crazy In Love is urban-crossover/pop but the album isn't Irreplaceable is pop, but the album isn't. Halo is pop. Single Ladies is only "pop" in the fact that it was massively popular. First time listeners thought it sounded like Get Me Bodied (urban) and that it would flop. It was originally an urban single which crossed over. Bey is and always was and is R&B/Urban by textbook definition and I don't see how you can listen to her albums and deny this.
Gaia Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KORDEI said: Crazy In Love is urban-crossover/pop but the album isn't Irreplaceable is pop, but the album isn't. Halo is pop. Single Ladies is only "pop" in the fact that is was massively popular. First time listeners thought it sounded like Get Me Bodied (urban) and that it would flop. Bey is and always was and is R&B/Urban by textbook definition and I don't see how you can listen to her albums and deny this. I'm not saying her albums aren't. I'm saying the way she promotes herself (singles). Even if the songs are in general R&B there are always pop elements to make sure she appeals to a pop crowd. The first time she didn't attempt to pander to the pop crowd was BEYONCE and it upped her profile especially in the urban community (Even if it costs her, her single sales and pop radio airplay). Edited June 21, 2017 by Kkamjong
KORDEI Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, Kkamjong said: I'm not saying her albums aren't. I'm saying the way she promotes herself (singles). Be that as it may, Me, Myself & I, Naughty Girl & Dangerously In Love were singles in the same era that CIL was a single. Upgrade U & RTA were singles in the same era that Irreplaceable was a single. Diva, Ego & Videophone were singles in the same era that Halo/IIWAB were singles. I don't think she promotes herself any type of way with releases. She's just a crossover act lol. Realistically, with the music she makes, she should not be as big as she is.
Gaia Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, KORDEI said: Be that as it may, Me, Myself & I, Naughty Girl & Dangerously In Love were singles in the same era that CIL was a single. Upgrade U & RTA were singles in the same era that Irreplaceable was a single. Diva, Ego & Videophone were singles in the same era that Halo/IIWAB were singles. I don't think she promotes herself any type of way with releases. She's just a crossover act lol. Realistically, with the music she makes, she should not be as big as she is. That's a large reason as to why her sales are underwhelming compared to her celebrity status. She is bigger than her music lol.
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